Re: Following our Review-Then-Commit process

2017-04-04 Thread Andy Wenk

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> On 4. Apr 2017, at 05:13, Joan Touzet  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 04/03/2017 05:17 PM, Joan Touzet wrote:
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> I wanted to express a concern with my CouchDB PMC hat on.
>>> 
>>> There is some great work being merged by Cloudant here. But I'm not
>>> seeing the Review-Then-Commit pattern being followed in a
>>> significant
>>> number of these PRs coming through to any of our repos.
>>> 
>>> Take as an example this one, which is one of 4 related PRs to merge
>>> replicator scheduling work. None of these 4 PRs shows an
>>> independent +1
>>> posted to the comment thread, or even a token +1 by a fellow
>>> Cloudant
>>> committer.
>> 
>> A branch was deleted because because monorepo work made it invalid.
>> 
>> Nothing was merged. I think it might be confusing seeing the PR
>> auto-close after branch delete and assuming it was because of a
>> merge...?
>> 
>> This is still WIP. There will be new PR and a mailing list
>> announcement
>> soon.
> 
> Thanks Nick, I appreciate it, though there have been other merged
> branches in the last couple of months that didn't have visible +1s
> on them.
> 
> My comments on documentation and testing still stand.
> 
> -Joan

Joan, thanks for bringing this up - it is very important to speak about this. 
In my daily work I have one
important thing (next to many others) to do: make sure that tests are written, 
make sure that the documentation 
and make sure that all developers are able to follow along when writing code or 
work on code from others. The 
quality will drop immediately if these things are left behind and that’s a no 
go. So I would like to point to 
the guidelines at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Contributing and ask 
everyone to follow along. 
Maybe we have to check if everything is still up to date. 

All the best

Andy



Re: Following our Review-Then-Commit process

2017-04-03 Thread Joan Touzet
 
> On 04/03/2017 05:17 PM, Joan Touzet wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I wanted to express a concern with my CouchDB PMC hat on.
> >
> > There is some great work being merged by Cloudant here. But I'm not
> > seeing the Review-Then-Commit pattern being followed in a
> > significant
> > number of these PRs coming through to any of our repos.
> >
> > Take as an example this one, which is one of 4 related PRs to merge
> > replicator scheduling work. None of these 4 PRs shows an
> > independent +1
> > posted to the comment thread, or even a token +1 by a fellow
> > Cloudant
> > committer.
> 
> A branch was deleted because because monorepo work made it invalid.
> 
> Nothing was merged. I think it might be confusing seeing the PR
> auto-close after branch delete and assuming it was because of a
> merge...?
> 
> This is still WIP. There will be new PR and a mailing list
> announcement
> soon.

Thanks Nick, I appreciate it, though there have been other merged
branches in the last couple of months that didn't have visible +1s
on them.

My comments on documentation and testing still stand.

-Joan


Re: Following our Review-Then-Commit process

2017-04-03 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc

On 04/03/2017 05:17 PM, Joan Touzet wrote:

All,

I wanted to express a concern with my CouchDB PMC hat on.

There is some great work being merged by Cloudant here. But I'm not
seeing the Review-Then-Commit pattern being followed in a significant
number of these PRs coming through to any of our repos.

Take as an example this one, which is one of 4 related PRs to merge
replicator scheduling work. None of these 4 PRs shows an independent +1
posted to the comment thread, or even a token +1 by a fellow Cloudant
committer.


A branch was deleted because because monorepo work made it invalid.

Nothing was merged. I think it might be confusing seeing the PR 
auto-close after branch delete and assuming it was because of a merge...?


This is still WIP. There will be new PR and a mailing list announcement 
soon.


-Nick




Following our Review-Then-Commit process (was: couchdb pull request #454)

2017-04-03 Thread Joan Touzet
All,

I wanted to express a concern with my CouchDB PMC hat on.

There is some great work being merged by Cloudant here. But I'm not
seeing the Review-Then-Commit pattern being followed in a significant
number of these PRs coming through to any of our repos.

Take as an example this one, which is one of 4 related PRs to merge
replicator scheduling work. None of these 4 PRs shows an independent +1
posted to the comment thread, or even a token +1 by a fellow Cloudant
committer. Nor does the JIRA ticket, COUCHDB-3324, show anything other
than the text "Merge scheduling replicator" and links to the related 4
PRs in its description.

As a developer I have no clue what this actually does. There is some
additional detail in some of the PR commits but at least one of them has
so many commits, I can't suss out the overall meaning of the change.

As an occasional documentation author I don't know how I'd begin to
explain the change, and there is sadly not an associated PR in the
couchdb-documentation repository. Our documentation is already behind
from 2.0, and while some of our committers out there are making PRs to
get these things merged in, I'd like not to fall further behind in this
area.

Finally, there is no test case being committed for this work. As a
relatively large change to the code base, in an area where we have
traditionally had subtle issues, I find this very disappointing.

Can someone from Cloudant help improve the process here going forward?

Thanks,
Joan

- Original Message -
> From: "nickva" 
> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
> Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 5:01:55 PM
> Subject: [GitHub] couchdb pull request #454: Point to scheduling replicator 
> dependencies.
> 
> Github user nickva closed the pull request at:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/couchdb/pull/454
> 
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