Re: [dba-dev] Need i-team for specification [was [dba-dev] New Filter Dialog]

2009-03-09 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany
Hi Karl,

 There does not seem to be much interest in ux and qa... :-(

As Liz said, it might indeed be possible that especially UX is on the
Cebit ...

 I have finished a first version of a specification. Lots of details are still 
 missing. I didn't pay, for example, any attention to accessibility yet.
 
 However, the first version has enough content (23 pages) to see how I think 
 the new filter dialogue could -- and should -- work. Before I continue, I 
 would like to get some feedback. Maybe my ideas are in complete disagreement 
 with the expectations of the community.
 
 So how should we proceed? Shall I stop and move the first version to 
 /dev/null 
 since I do not have a complete i-team, or should I upload it somewhere and 
 wait for being bashed?  ;-) 

The latter :)

 In case you suggest the latter, how and where should this version of the spec 
 be announced?

Did you do this as Writer doc, or do you plan to do it in the Wiki? In
the first case, you should find a place.

For announcements, annou...@specs.openoffice.org is the ... intended
place, though ... I've rarely seen anybody using it, so I in fact
suggest to do the announcement in us...@dba and disc...@ux (though
feedback/discussion should happen in one list only, us...@dba preferrably).

 Anyway, I think I should stop now and wait for feedback. 

Thanks  Ciao
Frank

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Re: [dba-dev] Need i-team for specification [was [dba-dev] New Filter Dialog]

2009-03-09 Thread Karl Weber
Am Montag, 9. März 2009 13:57 schrieb Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems 
Germany:
  In case you suggest the latter, how and where should this version of the
  spec be announced?

 Did you do this as Writer doc, or do you plan to do it in the Wiki? In
 the first case, you should find a place.

I have used OpenOffice.org Software Specification Template and thus I have a 
Writer document.

There is the specification wiki that says one should put the spec (even if 
preliminary) online on http://specs.openoffice.org... but how do I? On this 
page I cannot find any hint.

-Karl 

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Re: [dba-dev] Need i-team for specification [was [dba-dev] New Filter Dialog]

2009-03-09 Thread Karl Weber
Am Montag, 9. März 2009 21:10 schrieb Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems 
Germany:
 Hi Karl,

  I have used OpenOffice.org Software Specification Template and thus I
  have a Writer document.
 
  There is the specification wiki that says one should put the spec (even
  if preliminary) online on http://specs.openoffice.org... but how do I? On
  this page I cannot find any hint.

 Sigh ... one reason I prefer the Wiki ...

 You need CVS access to the ¨specs¨ project. Since I cannot grant you
 this, and I am not even sure the project is still alive ... I could
 offer you CVS access to the DBA project, so you can commit your spec
 (still using CVS) to http://dba.openoffice.org/specifications/index.html.

Well, I just wanted to apologise for the false alarm since I managed to upload 
the file to

http://specs.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList

The document should be visible to other users once the project owner 
(Christian Jansen) has approved the file. If the project is dead it cannot be 
for long since the last spec was approved on February 19, 2009. 

I guess it is better now to wait and see if it gets approved. If not, then I 
would have to try the CVS. I will announce the spec as soon as it is visible 
to the public.

-Karl 


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