Re: [documentation-dev] Base Guide needs writers
Hi all, I've been wanting a chance to contribute, but hadn't found anything. I've been trying to learn Base because my job involves databases and the experience might help me. If I can get a little guidance on what to do, I'd love to write something for Base. -Kate Andrew Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL Can we just nominate someone and then hound them into submission? On 10/28/07, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I don't recall if I mentioned that one of the volunteers to write parts of the Base Guide has had to withdraw due to lack of time, so we are back to desperately seeking contributors. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Base Guide needs writers
Kate, that's great! Please see my recent notes to David Michel and others about the location of the Base Guide outline, and pick something that interests you. It doesn't have to be an entire chapter to start with; one section of a chapter would be fine. Or you could do some stand-alone how-to's on specific topics (taken from the outline) that could later be combined into the book by an editor (probably me). I'm now thinking that might be a good way to handle having several people working on the book. There is a sample database that everyone should use so the examples and discussion fit together. Drew Jensen among others is available to help as needed with technical details and guidance about Base itself. A good place for anyone to start is: after picking a topic (or a chapter) to write about, develop the outline for that chapter or topic more fully. Most of the book's outline is only a wish list of topics at the moment. By developing the outline I mean work out a series of headings, in the order they are intended to appear in the table of contents, preferably with a short paragraph under each heading, saying what you plan to include in that section. At this point you may need to do some research to know what to cover. Don't worry to much at this point about the wording of the headings; they can (and some surely will) change later. Try to get the sequence of topics worked out, but be aware that the sequence may change later too, as you do more research and discover that a different sequence explains the topics better. When you have a detailed outline of your topic or chapter (or at any stage while you're working on it), send it to this list or put it on the wiki or the OOoAuthors website and ask on this list for comments. Of course, if you want to just leap in and start writing and organise it later, that can work too. Up to you. --Jean K. Morgan wrote: Hi all, I've been wanting a chance to contribute, but hadn't found anything. I've been trying to learn Base because my job involves databases and the experience might help me. If I can get a little guidance on what to do, I'd love to write something for Base. -Kate Andrew Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL Can we just nominate someone and then hound them into submission? On 10/28/07, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I don't recall if I mentioned that one of the volunteers to write parts of the Base Guide has had to withdraw due to lack of time, so we are back to desperately seeking contributors. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Base Guide needs writers
LOL Can we just nominate someone and then hound them into submission? On 10/28/07, Jean Hollis Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall if I mentioned that one of the volunteers to write parts of the Base Guide has had to withdraw due to lack of time, so we are back to desperately seeking contributors. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Base Guide
arrrgh - I suppose it is a case of, I made the mess with the two accounts and I have to live with it..oh well...who invented case sensitivity anyway. On 9/28/07, Jean Hollis Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Jensen wrote: [aside] I tried to log onto OOoAuthors with my drewjensen account. I can log on but it tells me I don't have sufficient rights to even look at my own stuff, let alone anything else..*chuckle*..the nerve. Could you help on that? You have two accounts. The one called DrewJensen has Author privileges. The one called drewjensen did not, but now does. I suspect that if you log in under the latter username, you may still not be able to access your own stuff -- if you created it under the other name. Cheers, Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Base Guide
Andrew Jensen wrote: [aside] I tried to log onto OOoAuthors with my drewjensen account. I can log on but it tells me I don't have sufficient rights to even look at my own stuff, let alone anything else..*chuckle*..the nerve. Could you help on that? You have two accounts. The one called DrewJensen has Author privileges. The one called drewjensen did not, but now does. I suspect that if you log in under the latter username, you may still not be able to access your own stuff -- if you created it under the other name. Cheers, Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Base Guide (was: Mid-level base tutorial)
Jean, I'll take a look at merging the wiki and document and incorporating the idea brought up here about 'How to choose the right engine' first of the week. [aside] I tried to log onto OOoAuthors with my drewjensen account. I can log on but it tells me I don't have sufficient rights to even look at my own stuff, let alone anything else..*chuckle*..the nerve. Could you help on that? On 9/27/07, Jean Hollis Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question. Would be best to update both. :-) If we are working on the Base Guide primarily through the OOoAuthors webiste (instead of the wiki, as for the tutorial), I guess the primary source for the Base Guide outline should be the file on the OOoAuthors website. OTOH, the wiki page might be easier to keep up to date. BTW, the file you refer to exists in two versions at the moment: an ODT file and a page on the website itself. All of this duplication is not a good idea, but I haven't had the energy to do anything to consolidate things. Please feel free to rationalise all of them yourself, if you want to. Gosh, what a long-winded answer. I probably need another cup of tea to wake up the old brain cells. :-) Cheers, Jean Andrew Jensen wrote: Your correct. That would be a good place for this, kind of the natural place I suppose. OK, which outline is being updated then...I am so easily confused sometimes...the file that you sent out or the wiki page? Drew On 9/27/07, Jean Hollis Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Smith wrote: Are there any plans to include a section comparing, in practical terms, which database type to choose for some typical projects? [...] This is a critical choice that the current UI gives almost no help with. It then falls to written documentation to explain the concepts and assist in choosing the right one. This is a good topic to include in the Base Guide, which obviously will be rather more comprehensive than a tutorial. IIRC, the outline includes a section or chapter on planning. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Base Guide
Hi Andrew! Thank you very much for the Hsqldb manual and the links that you sent me. They proved to be very useful. The site in Portuguese never opened in my browser so I could not check it. However, I was able to gather most of the information that I needed... with a few exceptions; and I am hoping that you can fill in the gaps: Data types are not defined in the Hsqldb manual but referred to the Java types they map (pag. 115). I really just want to identify the number of bytes they use and whether they are signed or not in order to determine their range. For example, I understood that TINYINT was a 1 byte unsigned data type with a range of 0-255. Yet the manual says -under the Types and Arithmetic Operators heading- that TINYINT ranged from -128 to +127. Ahhrg! I also understand that NUMERIC and DECIMAL are interchangeable in Hsql (which is the engine this tutorial will assume that the user is using) and can hold very large numbers and that REAL, FLOAT and DOUBLE, also interchangeable, handle better the divisions. Is this consistent with your experience? To simplify what I am asking from you, could you please review and complete- the best you can- the following table? (I really hope that the formatting holds!): Numeric Type Variables: Used for storing numeric values NameData type No. of BytesSigned Range Boolean yes/no 1 bit 0 - 1 Tinyint Tiny Integer1 Byte No 0 255 SmallintSmall Integer Integer Integer Bigint Big integer Numeric Number no limit (1MB) Decimal Decimal no limit (1MB) RealReal Float Float Double Double I have chosen to leave the size, precision and scale attributes for an advanced tutorial. I am also going to assume that the lax operation mode in the handling of variable types is on by default when using Hsql. I appreciate your help! Mariano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
