Re: [DS] Various factory component issues, and progress on RFC 190

2014-05-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi,


2014-05-19 22:57 GMT+02:00 David Jencks :

> There are some difficulties with factory components and DTO/mutliple pid
> support.  In terms of the spec, DTO and factory components don't work well
> together, see bug 2683 (I'm not sure how visible this is to
> non-osgi-members).  In Felix,
>
> 1. I think we should not support the obsolete factory configuration >>
> newInstance-like behavior on namespace 1.3+ components.  We shouldn't have
> supported it after namespace 1.0, but we should stop now for sure. Trying
> to support this with multiple pids is just too weird.
>
> +1, yes we should have dropped that support with earlier namespaces :(


> 2. Because of how I implemented multiple pid support for normal
> components, I think it would be easy to Implement factory config > multiple
> instances of the ComponentFactory service.  I believe this behavior was
> requested by Pierre de Rop.  There's an additional problem if you do this
> that you can't distinguish the ComponentFactory services registered from
> the multiple factory configurations.  To solve this I propose that
> configuration properties prefixed with "org.apache.felix.scr.factory."
> (exact string up for discussion) be added to the ComponentFactory service
> properties.  Of course all this would have to be enabled by an flag in the
> xml such as felix:factoryComponentFactoryPID="true" (no good ideas on this
> one yet).
>

Sounds fine to me. Would it make sense to get this into RFC190?

>
> As a reminder, a few days ago I said I was about to remove the legacy
> configuration system entirely in favor of the spec one based on DTOs since
> they are conceptually incompatible and the existing one is fundamentally
> confused.  So far no response so it's going soon….
>
I agree, let's just go forward with the DTOs

Carsten


>
> Comments?
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
>


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Carsten Ziegeler
cziege...@apache.org


[DS] Various factory component issues, and progress on RFC 190

2014-05-19 Thread David Jencks
Hi,

I've been working on implementing the proposed rfc 190 changes to DS in felix 
scr.  I've committed some work and have most of the DTO and multiple pid 
support implemented locally.  The major bits I haven't started on yet are 
configuration through annotations and scope support (for exposed services and 
for references).  I don't expect either of these to be particularly difficult, 
but then I haven't started.

There are some difficulties with factory components and DTO/mutliple pid 
support.  In terms of the spec, DTO and factory components don't work well 
together, see bug 2683 (I'm not sure how visible this is to non-osgi-members).  
In Felix,

1. I think we should not support the obsolete factory configuration >> 
newInstance-like behavior on namespace 1.3+ components.  We shouldn't have 
supported it after namespace 1.0, but we should stop now for sure. Trying to 
support this with multiple pids is just too weird.

2. Because of how I implemented multiple pid support for normal components, I 
think it would be easy to Implement factory config > multiple instances of the 
ComponentFactory service.  I believe this behavior was requested by Pierre de 
Rop.  There's an additional problem if you do this that you can't distinguish 
the ComponentFactory services registered from the multiple factory 
configurations.  To solve this I propose that configuration properties prefixed 
with "org.apache.felix.scr.factory." (exact string up for discussion) be added 
to the ComponentFactory service properties.  Of course all this would have to 
be enabled by an flag in the xml such as 
felix:factoryComponentFactoryPID="true" (no good ideas on this one yet).

As a reminder, a few days ago I said I was about to remove the legacy 
configuration system entirely in favor of the spec one based on DTOs since they 
are conceptually incompatible and the existing one is fundamentally confused.  
So far no response so it's going soon….

Comments?

thanks
david jencks