Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Flagon
+1 Graduation a great step, I am in favor. I would like to see a bigger community [ of public users, and contributors ], and those from different organizations. But, graduation may help that - as being graduated is a strong signaling mechanism. On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 9:52 AM Gedd Johnson wrote: > This is great to hear! Strongly in favor. > - Gedd > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 22:42 Joshua Poore wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I’m initiating this DISCUSS thread to talk through the communities > > perspective (at this point in time) on Graduation as a Top Level project. > > > > Flagon has tried to Graduate twice before first in 2018, and then in > 2020. > > Each time, we didn’t get any strong blockers, but some tickets that we > > worked to burn down. Ultimately, though the graduation VOTE on > > general@incubator just lost steam. Here is the last thread: > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/svf7ckpohmt4s9cflf35m12n3w0sz46z < > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/svf7ckpohmt4s9cflf35m12n3w0sz46z> > > > > Now, the Incubator is highly motivated to push projects that have been in > > Incubation status longer than two years to move toward graduation. Flagon > > is CERTAINLY on that list, and the remark is that we should have > graduated. > > > > At this point, there are certainly ways that our project and community > can > > improve. However, the following is true: > > > > 1. The community has consistently VOTED in favor Graduation > > 2. Mentors have consistently been in favor of Graduation > > 3. The project has demonstrated stability and continued growth over the > > years > > 4. The project meets the maturity model of the incubator: > > > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > < > > > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > > > > 5. The Incubator is now very engaged in graduating (I suspect VOTEs on > > INCUBATOR won’t fizzle out) > > > > The project and the community, like software, are never done. So the > > question to DISCUSS is whether the community agrees that we’re ready to > > self-govern and continue development outside the Incubator. > > > > Let’s discuss over the next week, and move to a VOTE on the week of the > 31 > > OCT 2022. > > > > Best, > > > > Josh >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Flagon
This is great to hear! Strongly in favor. - Gedd On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 22:42 Joshua Poore wrote: > Hi All, > > I’m initiating this DISCUSS thread to talk through the communities > perspective (at this point in time) on Graduation as a Top Level project. > > Flagon has tried to Graduate twice before first in 2018, and then in 2020. > Each time, we didn’t get any strong blockers, but some tickets that we > worked to burn down. Ultimately, though the graduation VOTE on > general@incubator just lost steam. Here is the last thread: > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/svf7ckpohmt4s9cflf35m12n3w0sz46z < > https://lists.apache.org/thread/svf7ckpohmt4s9cflf35m12n3w0sz46z> > > Now, the Incubator is highly motivated to push projects that have been in > Incubation status longer than two years to move toward graduation. Flagon > is CERTAINLY on that list, and the remark is that we should have graduated. > > At this point, there are certainly ways that our project and community can > improve. However, the following is true: > > 1. The community has consistently VOTED in favor Graduation > 2. Mentors have consistently been in favor of Graduation > 3. The project has demonstrated stability and continued growth over the > years > 4. The project meets the maturity model of the incubator: > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > < > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > > 5. The Incubator is now very engaged in graduating (I suspect VOTEs on > INCUBATOR won’t fizzle out) > > The project and the community, like software, are never done. So the > question to DISCUSS is whether the community agrees that we’re ready to > self-govern and continue development outside the Incubator. > > Let’s discuss over the next week, and move to a VOTE on the week of the 31 > OCT 2022. > > Best, > > Josh
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Flagon
Hi Josh, In short… yes. I firmly Believe the project should graduate. Please carry my +1 through to a VOTE thread. Thanks lewismc On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 20:42 Joshua Poore wrote: > Hi All, > > I’m initiating this DISCUSS thread to talk through the communities > perspective (at this point in time) on Graduation as a Top Level project. > > Flagon has tried to Graduate twice before first in 2018, and then in 2020. > Each time, we didn’t get any strong blockers, but some tickets that we > worked to burn down. Ultimately, though the graduation VOTE on > general@incubator just lost steam. Here is the last thread: > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/svf7ckpohmt4s9cflf35m12n3w0sz46z > > Now, the Incubator is highly motivated to push projects that have been in > Incubation status longer than two years to move toward graduation. Flagon > is CERTAINLY on that list, and the remark is that we should have graduated. > > At this point, there are certainly ways that our project and community can > improve. However, the following is true: > > 1. The community has consistently VOTED in favor Graduation > 2. Mentors have consistently been in favor of Graduation > 3. The project has demonstrated stability and continued growth over the > years > 4. The project meets the maturity model of the incubator: > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > 5. The Incubator is now very engaged in graduating (I suspect VOTEs on > INCUBATOR won’t fizzle out) > > The project and the community, like software, are never done. *So the > question to DISCUSS is whether the community agrees that we’re ready to > self-govern and continue development outside the Incubator. * > > Let’s discuss over the next week, and move to a VOTE on the week of the 31 > OCT 2022. > > Best, > > Josh > -- http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
