RE: Top 5 highest demands on Flex - Design View

2014-03-14 Thread Sugan Naicker
Hi,

Some Online Design View Tools :

1) https://github.com/igorcosta/ApacheFlexUIBuilder
2) http://www.radii8.com/demo/
3) http://designview.sourceforge.net/# (Online Example)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/designview/ (Source)

Regards,

Sugan


-Original Message-
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] 
Sent: 14 March 2014 07:25 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Top 5 highest demands on Flex



On 3/13/14 9:04 PM, DarkStone darkst...@163.com wrote:

Hi Justin,

Sorry, I think I'm misled by the official webpage of the Apache Flex 
Team, which indicates Alex is one of our mentors:
http://flex.apache.org/about-people.html
It says I'm the PMC Chair.  A Mentor is something else.  And as PMC Chair I
do not have authority over the other PMC Members and committers, I just have
extra work to do.


And I don't think Alex would disagree with anything you said too, I 
just wanna know if there is any chance that Adobe could bring the Flash 
Builder's Design View back to life : )
I do not expect Adobe would bring back Design View and there is no official
statement either way. But that doesn't mean that Apache Flex couldn't create
its own Design View or some other thing could be created.
Think of it this way: what is it about Design View that are truly the
requirements?  That it is an Eclipse plug-in?  What are the most important
things Design View accomplishes?  Is it dragging your UI widgets from a
toolbar or tweaking it afterwards?  What if there was a way to tweak most of
your UI while the app is actually running live?  Would that be even better?
Would you give up on it being an Eclipse plug-in if you could do that?

Also note that, AFAIK, we have not broken the Flash Builder 4.6 Design View.
I believe Apache Flex releases still work in Flash Builder 4.6 although they
are not officially supported.  You can have both Flash Builder 4.6 and 4.7
installed on a single machine.  I think there may be some issues with
project properties and 4.6 has issues publishing the HTML wrapper.  But I
think some folks said you can still use 4.6 Design View.

-Alex




RE: Top 5 highest demands on Flex - Design View

2014-03-14 Thread Sugan Naicker
Hi,

Check out the video demo of using Radi8 - Design View.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx5W0t64VuYfeature=player_embedded

Regards,

Sugan


-Original Message-
From: Sugan Naicker [mailto:su...@dev-x.co.za] 
Sent: 14 March 2014 08:37 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Cc: darkst...@163.com
Subject: RE: Top 5 highest demands on Flex - Design View

Hi,

Some Online Design View Tools :

1) https://github.com/igorcosta/ApacheFlexUIBuilder
2) http://www.radii8.com/demo/
3) http://designview.sourceforge.net/# (Online Example)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/designview/ (Source)

Regards,

Sugan


-Original Message-
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] 
Sent: 14 March 2014 07:25 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Top 5 highest demands on Flex



On 3/13/14 9:04 PM, DarkStone darkst...@163.com wrote:

Hi Justin,

Sorry, I think I'm misled by the official webpage of the Apache Flex 
Team, which indicates Alex is one of our mentors:
http://flex.apache.org/about-people.html
It says I'm the PMC Chair.  A Mentor is something else.  And as PMC Chair I
do not have authority over the other PMC Members and committers, I just have
extra work to do.


And I don't think Alex would disagree with anything you said too, I 
just wanna know if there is any chance that Adobe could bring the Flash 
Builder's Design View back to life : )
I do not expect Adobe would bring back Design View and there is no official
statement either way. But that doesn't mean that Apache Flex couldn't create
its own Design View or some other thing could be created.
Think of it this way: what is it about Design View that are truly the
requirements?  That it is an Eclipse plug-in?  What are the most important
things Design View accomplishes?  Is it dragging your UI widgets from a
toolbar or tweaking it afterwards?  What if there was a way to tweak most of
your UI while the app is actually running live?  Would that be even better?
Would you give up on it being an Eclipse plug-in if you could do that?

Also note that, AFAIK, we have not broken the Flash Builder 4.6 Design View.
I believe Apache Flex releases still work in Flash Builder 4.6 although they
are not officially supported.  You can have both Flash Builder 4.6 and 4.7
installed on a single machine.  I think there may be some issues with
project properties and 4.6 has issues publishing the HTML wrapper.  But I
think some folks said you can still use 4.6 Design View.

-Alex





RE: Top 5 highest demands on Flex - Design View

2014-03-14 Thread DarkStone
Hi Sugan,

After I've played with these three Design View Tools, the only one seems
promising is http://www.radii8.com/demo/ . Although the flex components of
that demo provides are incomplete, I'm impressed that it can export flex to
html and android on the fly, I got say I did not expect that! I'll tell my
friends to try the demo, thanks~

https://github.com/igorcosta/ApacheFlexUIBuilder
This one works too, but lack of options to do complex jobs.

http://designview.sourceforge.net/#
And this one is out of date, it's based on old flex mx frameworks, which is
abandoned by new verions of Flex.

Now let's figure it out how to incorporate the Design View Application into
official Apache Flex release, should we just build our own Design View
Application and publish it on flex.apache.org, or ask third-party
organizations like radii8.com to donate their works?

Well it's just my silly thought, I know eventually if we want it, we have to
do it ourselves : D

DarkStone
2014-03-14



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RE: Top 5 highest demands on Flex - Design View

2014-03-14 Thread Sugan Naicker
Hi Darkstone,

Radii8 - Yeah. I was also impressed with the export to Flex, HTML 
Android, I also did not expect that.

I wonder if companies like IntelliJ, etc. would collaborate with Radii8 or
Radii8 to collaborate with the Apache Flex Team. Design View seems to be an
on-going request. If we want attract more developers to Apache Flex, this is
a core marketing feature. This is what attracted many new developers to Flex
in the first place.

Imagine integrating this with FlexJS..
 
I will try and contact Radii8, see if they are interested.

Regards,

Sugan





-Original Message-
From: DarkStone [mailto:darkst...@163.com] 
Sent: 14 March 2014 11:11 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: Top 5 highest demands on Flex - Design View

Hi Sugan,

After I've played with these three Design View Tools, the only one seems
promising is http://www.radii8.com/demo/ . Although the flex components of
that demo provides are incomplete, I'm impressed that it can export flex to
html and android on the fly, I got say I did not expect that! I'll tell my
friends to try the demo, thanks~

https://github.com/igorcosta/ApacheFlexUIBuilder
This one works too, but lack of options to do complex jobs.

http://designview.sourceforge.net/#
And this one is out of date, it's based on old flex mx frameworks, which is
abandoned by new verions of Flex.

Now let's figure it out how to incorporate the Design View Application into
official Apache Flex release, should we just build our own Design View
Application and publish it on flex.apache.org, or ask third-party
organizations like radii8.com to donate their works?

Well it's just my silly thought, I know eventually if we want it, we have to
do it ourselves : D

DarkStone
2014-03-14



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