[RESULT][VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
Hello devs, I'm happy to announce that FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application" [1] has been accepted with 13 approving votes, 6 of which are binding: [2]: - Mate Czagany (non-binding) - Mátyás Őrhidi (binding) - Marton Balassi (binding) - Xintong Song (binding)- Weijie Gue (binding)- Biao Geng (non-binding)- Junrui Lee (non-binding)- Zakelly Lan (binding)- Yuepeng Pan (non-binding) - Gabor Somogyi (binding) - Jeyhun Karimov (non-binding)- Venkatakrishnan Sowrirajan (non-binding) - Hang Ruan (non-binding) There are no disapproving votes. Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion and voting. Best, Ferenc [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/r2ny7dqomlwlr2f7shtm1zl670w6qnkr
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
Thanks for the FLIP. +1 (non-binding) Best, Hang Venkatakrishnan Sowrirajan 于2024年6月17日周一 02:00写道： > +1. Thanks for driving this proposal, Ferenc! > > Regards > Venkata krishnan > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:54 AM Jeyhun Karimov > wrote: > > > Thanks for driving this. > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > Regards, > > Jeyhun > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 5:23 PM Gabor Somogyi > > > wrote: > > > > > +1 (binding) > > > > > > G > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 5:23 PM Ferenc Csaky > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello devs, > > > > > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is about to > > > > merge back the > > > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the latter > > will > > > > be capable to deploy jobs in > > > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread > [2]. > > > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 > 14:03 > > > > UTC) unless there > > > > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > > > > > > > Thanks,Ferenc > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!fw7_SWUS3G8imqL4w4z0MejMShCR1pHlYxeTnLFJqIu6sI05EF1rM_n1kw8lESNgRzxPqstJC3ITNwDSp1Jf-aA$ > > > > [2] > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!fw7_SWUS3G8imqL4w4z0MejMShCR1pHlYxeTnLFJqIu6sI05EF1rM_n1kw8lESNgRzxPqstJC3ITNwDSOIWCchM$ > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
+1. Thanks for driving this proposal, Ferenc! Regards Venkata krishnan On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:54 AM Jeyhun Karimov wrote: > Thanks for driving this. > +1 (non-binding) > > Regards, > Jeyhun > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 5:23 PM Gabor Somogyi > wrote: > > > +1 (binding) > > > > G > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 5:23 PM Ferenc Csaky > > > wrote: > > > > > Hello devs, > > > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is about to > > > merge back the > > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the latter > will > > > be capable to deploy jobs in > > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread [2]. > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 14:03 > > > UTC) unless there > > > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > > > > > Thanks,Ferenc > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!fw7_SWUS3G8imqL4w4z0MejMShCR1pHlYxeTnLFJqIu6sI05EF1rM_n1kw8lESNgRzxPqstJC3ITNwDSp1Jf-aA$ > > > [2] > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!fw7_SWUS3G8imqL4w4z0MejMShCR1pHlYxeTnLFJqIu6sI05EF1rM_n1kw8lESNgRzxPqstJC3ITNwDSOIWCchM$ > > >
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
Thanks for driving this. +1 (non-binding) Regards, Jeyhun On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 5:23 PM Gabor Somogyi wrote: > +1 (binding) > > G > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 5:23 PM Ferenc Csaky > wrote: > > > Hello devs, > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is about to > > merge back the > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the latter will > > be capable to deploy jobs in > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread [2]. > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 14:03 > > UTC) unless there > > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > > > Thanks,Ferenc > > > > [1] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g >
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
+1 (binding) G On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 5:23 PM Ferenc Csaky wrote: > Hello devs, > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is about to > merge back the > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the latter will > be capable to deploy jobs in > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread [2]. > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 14:03 > UTC) unless there > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > Thanks,Ferenc > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
+1 (non-binding) Thanks for driving it! Best, Yuepeng Pan 在 2024-06-13 10:47:11，"Zakelly Lan" 写道： >+1 (binding) > >Thanks for driving this! > > >Best, >Zakelly > >On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:05 AM Junrui Lee wrote: > >> +1 (non-binding) >> >> Best, >> Junrui >> >> Biao Geng 于2024年6月13日周四 09:54写道： >> >> > Thanks for driving this. >> > +1 (non-binding) >> > >> > Best, >> > Biao Geng >> > >> > >> > weijie guo 于2024年6月13日周四 09:48写道： >> > >> > > Thanks for driving this! >> > > >> > > +1(binding) >> > > >> > > Best regards, >> > > >> > > Weijie >> > > >> > > >> > > Xintong Song 于2024年6月13日周四 09:04写道： >> > > >> > > > +1(binding) >> > > > >> > > > Best, >> > > > >> > > > Xintong >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 5:15 AM Márton Balassi < >> > balassi.mar...@gmail.com >> > > > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > +1 (binding) >> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:25 PM Őrhidi Mátyás < >> > matyas.orh...@gmail.com >> > > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Sounds reasonable, >> > > > > > +1 >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Cheers, >> > > > > > Matyas >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 8:54 AM Mate Czagany > > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thank you for driving this Ferenc, >> > > > > > > +1 (non-binding) >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards, >> > > > > > > Mate >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Ferenc Csaky ezt írta (időpont: >> > 2024. >> > > > > jún. >> > > > > > > 12., Sze, 17:23): >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hello devs, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is >> > > about >> > > > to >> > > > > > > > merge back the >> > > > > > > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the >> > > latter >> > > > > > will >> > > > > > > > be capable to deploy jobs in >> > > > > > > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion >> > thread >> > > > > [2]. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March >> > 23 >> > > > > 14:03 >> > > > > > > > UTC) unless there >> > > > > > > > are any objections or insufficient votes. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks,Ferenc >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > [1] >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 >> > > > > > > > [2] >> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >>
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
+1 (binding) Thanks for driving this! Best, Zakelly On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:05 AM Junrui Lee wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > Best, > Junrui > > Biao Geng 于2024年6月13日周四 09:54写道： > > > Thanks for driving this. > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > Best, > > Biao Geng > > > > > > weijie guo 于2024年6月13日周四 09:48写道： > > > > > Thanks for driving this! > > > > > > +1(binding) > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Weijie > > > > > > > > > Xintong Song 于2024年6月13日周四 09:04写道： > > > > > > > +1(binding) > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Xintong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 5:15 AM Márton Balassi < > > balassi.mar...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 (binding) > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:25 PM Őrhidi Mátyás < > > matyas.orh...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds reasonable, > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Matyas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 8:54 AM Mate Czagany > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for driving this Ferenc, > > > > > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Mate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ferenc Csaky ezt írta (időpont: > > 2024. > > > > > jún. > > > > > > > 12., Sze, 17:23): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello devs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is > > > about > > > > to > > > > > > > > merge back the > > > > > > > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the > > > latter > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > be capable to deploy jobs in > > > > > > > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion > > thread > > > > > [2]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March > > 23 > > > > > 14:03 > > > > > > > > UTC) unless there > > > > > > > > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,Ferenc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 > > > > > > > > [2] > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
+1 (non-binding) Best, Junrui Biao Geng 于2024年6月13日周四 09:54写道： > Thanks for driving this. > +1 (non-binding) > > Best, > Biao Geng > > > weijie guo 于2024年6月13日周四 09:48写道： > > > Thanks for driving this! > > > > +1(binding) > > > > Best regards, > > > > Weijie > > > > > > Xintong Song 于2024年6月13日周四 09:04写道： > > > > > +1(binding) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Xintong > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 5:15 AM Márton Balassi < > balassi.mar...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 (binding) > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:25 PM Őrhidi Mátyás < > matyas.orh...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sounds reasonable, > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Matyas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 8:54 AM Mate Czagany > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for driving this Ferenc, > > > > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mate > > > > > > > > > > > > Ferenc Csaky ezt írta (időpont: > 2024. > > > > jún. > > > > > > 12., Sze, 17:23): > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello devs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is > > about > > > to > > > > > > > merge back the > > > > > > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the > > latter > > > > > will > > > > > > > be capable to deploy jobs in > > > > > > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion > thread > > > > [2]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March > 23 > > > > 14:03 > > > > > > > UTC) unless there > > > > > > > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,Ferenc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 > > > > > > > [2] > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
Thanks for driving this. +1 (non-binding) Best, Biao Geng weijie guo 于2024年6月13日周四 09:48写道： > Thanks for driving this! > > +1(binding) > > Best regards, > > Weijie > > > Xintong Song 于2024年6月13日周四 09:04写道： > > > +1(binding) > > > > Best, > > > > Xintong > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 5:15 AM Márton Balassi > > > wrote: > > > > > +1 (binding) > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:25 PM Őrhidi Mátyás > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Sounds reasonable, > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Matyas > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 8:54 AM Mate Czagany > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for driving this Ferenc, > > > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Mate > > > > > > > > > > Ferenc Csaky ezt írta (időpont: 2024. > > > jún. > > > > > 12., Sze, 17:23): > > > > > > > > > > > Hello devs, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is > about > > to > > > > > > merge back the > > > > > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the > latter > > > > will > > > > > > be capable to deploy jobs in > > > > > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread > > > [2]. > > > > > > > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 > > > 14:03 > > > > > > UTC) unless there > > > > > > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,Ferenc > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 > > > > > > [2] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
Thanks for driving this! +1(binding) Best regards, Weijie Xintong Song 于2024年6月13日周四 09:04写道： > +1(binding) > > Best, > > Xintong > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 5:15 AM Márton Balassi > wrote: > > > +1 (binding) > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:25 PM Őrhidi Mátyás > > wrote: > > > > > Sounds reasonable, > > > +1 > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Matyas > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 8:54 AM Mate Czagany > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Thank you for driving this Ferenc, > > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Mate > > > > > > > > Ferenc Csaky ezt írta (időpont: 2024. > > jún. > > > > 12., Sze, 17:23): > > > > > > > > > Hello devs, > > > > > > > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is about > to > > > > > merge back the > > > > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the latter > > > will > > > > > be capable to deploy jobs in > > > > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread > > [2]. > > > > > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 > > 14:03 > > > > > UTC) unless there > > > > > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,Ferenc > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 > > > > > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
+1(binding) Best, Xintong On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 5:15 AM Márton Balassi wrote: > +1 (binding) > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:25 PM Őrhidi Mátyás > wrote: > > > Sounds reasonable, > > +1 > > > > Cheers, > > Matyas > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 8:54 AM Mate Czagany wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Thank you for driving this Ferenc, > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Mate > > > > > > Ferenc Csaky ezt írta (időpont: 2024. > jún. > > > 12., Sze, 17:23): > > > > > > > Hello devs, > > > > > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is about to > > > > merge back the > > > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the latter > > will > > > > be capable to deploy jobs in > > > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread > [2]. > > > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 > 14:03 > > > > UTC) unless there > > > > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > > > > > > > Thanks,Ferenc > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 > > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
+1 (binding) On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:25 PM Őrhidi Mátyás wrote: > Sounds reasonable, > +1 > > Cheers, > Matyas > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 8:54 AM Mate Czagany wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Thank you for driving this Ferenc, > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > Regards, > > Mate > > > > Ferenc Csaky ezt írta (időpont: 2024. jún. > > 12., Sze, 17:23): > > > > > Hello devs, > > > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is about to > > > merge back the > > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the latter > will > > > be capable to deploy jobs in > > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread [2]. > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 14:03 > > > UTC) unless there > > > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > > > > > Thanks,Ferenc > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g > > >
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
Sounds reasonable, +1 Cheers, Matyas On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 8:54 AM Mate Czagany wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you for driving this Ferenc, > +1 (non-binding) > > Regards, > Mate > > Ferenc Csaky ezt írta (időpont: 2024. jún. > 12., Sze, 17:23): > > > Hello devs, > > > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is about to > > merge back the > > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the latter will > > be capable to deploy jobs in > > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread [2]. > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 14:03 > > UTC) unless there > > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > > > Thanks,Ferenc > > > > [1] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g >
Re: [VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
Hi, Thank you for driving this Ferenc, +1 (non-binding) Regards, Mate Ferenc Csaky ezt írta (időpont: 2024. jún. 12., Sze, 17:23): > Hello devs, > > I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is about to > merge back the > "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the latter will > be capable to deploy jobs in > all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread [2]. > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 14:03 > UTC) unless there > are any objections or insufficient votes. > > Thanks,Ferenc > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g
[VOTE] FLIP-464: Merge "flink run" and "flink run-application"
Hello devs, I would like to start a vote about FLIP-464 [1]. The FLIP is about to merge back the "flink run-application" functionality to "flink run", so the latter will be capable to deploy jobs in all deployment modes. More details in the FLIP. Discussion thread [2]. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until 2024 March 23 14:03 UTC) unless there are any objections or insufficient votes. Thanks,Ferenc [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=311626179 [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xh58xs0y58kqjmfvd4yor79rv6dlcg5g
