According to Thorsten: > I have to admit that I am *really* disappointed about the communication > of the conference planer and the whole organization of this conference. > > I personally have send three mails (other threads) before to the > conference but still waiting for an answer (and I am not the only one). > I reckon this one will not be different. :(
Your last email regarding BOFs was submitted by you to the ApacheCon planners 18 May and answered by me today (at 1:30 am). The other two emails you submitted end of March where regarding a session proposal for the conference. It was submitted after our CFP deadline and actually after our final planning meeting. We usually cannot accept proposals received after the deadline as this would be unfair to the other people that submitted proposals. As far as I remember we answered your email and told you that we cannot consider the proposal for ApacheCon Europe. If we really didn't sent this email or if it wasn't received by you, I'm sorry ... we always receive some unsolicited proposals for sessions are the CFP deadline and often we don't have to time to answer these or just fall through the cracks. > I guess that means we should follow the cocoon example and organize > something for ourself to meet. > > BTW if we do so I guess I will not even attend the conference but only > meet up with the people of the forrest community. I cannot understand > why committers do not get discounts for the conference and having to pay > the fee by myself it is just *too* much money. It is a petty but who can > spend 800¤ + traveling cost + ... Sure, it would be great if we could find a sponsor to give every committer or even every Apache user free admission to the conference, but without such a big sponsor that's not possible. ApacheCon is a commercial tech conference and therefore there is a few for attending the conference ... like with any other tech conference. Do you get in for free at O'Reilly or JavaOne conferences? No, you don't. ApacheCon is not just a social get-to-gether of committers or members, but a conference that provides intense lectures, tutorials, and presentations to Apache users. It's there for people to learn something about Apache and related technologies. Thorsten, as a committer you are probably aware of the ASF hackathon that happens at the beginning of the conference (information about this was provided some time ago). This event is a get-to-gether of developers and open (only) to ASF members and committers. And it's free of charge ... If you do not consider this sufficient, then I'm afraid you may want to consider organizing something yourself. > If my understanding is correct the organization of this conference is > not directly from the ASF, right? ApacheCon is organized by the ASF in coorporation with a commercial conference producer. My $0.02 ciao... -- Lars Eilebrecht - "Imagination is more important [EMAIL PROTECTED] - than knowledge." (Albert Einstein)