Started graduation resolution DISCUSS on general@incubator.a.o

2018-02-06 Thread Daniel Dekany
I have started the resolution DISCUSS thread on the
general@incubator.a.o. PPMC members please follow the discussion, and
chime in if necessary!

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 Daniel Dekany



Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

2018-02-06 Thread Daniel Dekany
Tuesday, February 6, 2018, 7:59:54 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:

> This was a question. Somebody knows how to do this? Maybe from
> somebody who's in the IPMC those field are editable?
>
> Anyway, at this point, I will start that voting when I get to there,
> regardless of this...

I mean, the resolution DISCUSS, not the voting...

> Tuesday, February 6, 2018, 6:23:22 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>> I am confused. Who are we waiting for to do what?
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 4:39 AM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good! (And sounds like communication is lacking on the other side...)
>>> Now you aren't red on
>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker#reporting.
>>> 
>>> There are two other red items though, and I have to admit that I don't
>>> know where does it get that false information from:
>>> 
>>> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
>>> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
>>> 
>>> Do we still miss some project meta info file somewhere? Where are
>>> these Whimsy-related things documented? Are we supposed to care at
>>> all?
>>> 
>>> I have just checked https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ofbiz...
>>> well guys, you don't even have Software Grant and IP Clearance. So I
>>> guess this Whimsy thing is still in early stage... or OFBiz needs a
>>> good lawyer. (-;
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Friday, February 2, 2018, 11:02:38 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>> 
 It looks like this is now taken care of (user jonesde now on the IPMC 
 list):
 
 http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?ctte=incubator
 
 -David
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Sergio Fernández  
 wrote:
 
> Please David, engage again with private@incubator.a.o to see what's going
> on. I don't recall your issue been discussed, but I may missed it.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2018 06:39, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:
> 
>> Monday, January 29, 2018, 7:16:21 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Dekany 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
 
> Great, Daniel!
> 
> Let's move to the next step and open the vote at
> general@incubator.a.o
 ;-)
 
 David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
 24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
 progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
 the private list.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I got a reply from John D. Ament on Jan 24th saying he was sending
>> notice,
>>> but I haven't seen anything since and not sure if I should even expect
>> any
>>> sort of email notification or if it's something I'd have to hunt around
>> for
>>> or follow up on.
>>> 
>>> FWIW I'm not on the Incubator PMC list yet (my ASF username is
>> 'jonesde'):
>>> 
>>> http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
>>> 
>>> I also don't know if my failure to respond to John's email in June will
>>> cause any issues, or in general what to expect with all this so I
> really
>>> can't say much.
>> 
>> If the process is like here, they have vote (at least 3 days), then
>> wait for 3 days so the board can veto the decision, and only then mail
>> you... I hope they have started the process. If they won't report back
>> in a few days, it would be good if you ask them.
>> 
>>> -David
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel Dekany
>> 
>> 
> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Daniel Dekany
>>> 
>>> 
>>
>>
>>
>

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Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany



Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

2018-02-06 Thread Daniel Dekany
Right, I will start the resolution [DISCUSS] thread (not the VOTE, as
I said earlier...) when I get to it. Tonight I guess. This branch of
the discussion was about those red Whymsi entries.

Tuesday, February 6, 2018, 7:54:46 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> I think the last final steps should be:
> 1) send the charter proposal, already prepared by Daniel, to the Incubator
> general list for review before the vote [*]
> 2) start the graduation vote in the Incubator general list; see "The
> Recommendation Vote" [**]
>
> Then (if the recommendation vote will be successful) we will submit the
> resolution to the Board.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jacopo
>
> [*]
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#preparing_a_charter
> [**] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_
> recommendation_vote
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:23 AM, Ralph Goers 
> wrote:
>
>> I am confused. Who are we waiting for to do what?
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> > On Feb 3, 2018, at 4:39 AM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:
>> >
>> > Good! (And sounds like communication is lacking on the other side...)
>> > Now you aren't red on
>> > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker#reporting.
>> >
>> > There are two other red items though, and I have to admit that I don't
>> > know where does it get that false information from:
>> >
>> > * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
>> > * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
>> >
>> > Do we still miss some project meta info file somewhere? Where are
>> > these Whimsy-related things documented? Are we supposed to care at
>> > all?
>> >
>> > I have just checked https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ofbiz...
>> > well guys, you don't even have Software Grant and IP Clearance. So I
>> > guess this Whimsy thing is still in early stage... or OFBiz needs a
>> > good lawyer. (-;
>> >
>> >
>> > Friday, February 2, 2018, 11:02:38 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>> >
>> >> It looks like this is now taken care of (user jonesde now on the IPMC
>> list):
>> >>
>> >> http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?ctte=incubator
>> >>
>> >> -David
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Sergio Fernández 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Please David, engage again with private@incubator.a.o to see what's
>> going
>> >>> on. I don't recall your issue been discussed, but I may missed it.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 30, 2018 06:39, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Monday, January 29, 2018, 7:16:21 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>> 
>> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Dekany 
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Great, Daniel!
>> >>>
>> >>> Let's move to the next step and open the vote at
>> >>> general@incubator.a.o
>> >> ;-)
>> >>
>> >> David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
>> >> 24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
>> >> progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
>> >> the private list.
>> >
>> >
>> > I got a reply from John D. Ament on Jan 24th saying he was sending
>>  notice,
>> > but I haven't seen anything since and not sure if I should even
>> expect
>>  any
>> > sort of email notification or if it's something I'd have to hunt
>> around
>>  for
>> > or follow up on.
>> >
>> > FWIW I'm not on the Incubator PMC list yet (my ASF username is
>>  'jonesde'):
>> >
>> > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
>> >
>> > I also don't know if my failure to respond to John's email in June
>> will
>> > cause any issues, or in general what to expect with all this so I
>> >>> really
>> > can't say much.
>> 
>>  If the process is like here, they have vote (at least 3 days), then
>>  wait for 3 days so the board can veto the decision, and only then mail
>>  you... I hope they have started the process. If they won't report back
>>  in a few days, it would be good if you ask them.
>> 
>> > -David
>> 
>>  --
>>  Thanks,
>>  Daniel Dekany
>> 
>> 
>> >>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > Daniel Dekany
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

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Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany