Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 09/02/2018 à 17:04, Daniel Dekany a écrit :

Friday, February 9, 2018, 2:07:54 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Le 08/02/2018 à 22:30, Daniel Dekany a écrit :

Monday, February 5, 2018, 9:38:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Le 04/02/2018 à 10:08, Daniel Dekany a écrit :

BTW is Freemarker providing a RAT report?

`ant rat` generates one locally. It contains quite a few false alarms,
but I have only used it for manual checking. It's not published
anywhere.


Hi Daniel,

You can remove false alarms using a rat-excludes.txt placed in the root.

That's undocumented, or at least I can't find it in the documentation
of Rat. Despite that, I have tried it with the latest stable (0.12,
from 07-Jun-2016... suspicious), but it had no effect. So for now it
will be Ant's good old fileset excludes.

That's also a good solution for now indeed

Jacques

I have externalized them to a "rat-excludes" file (purely using Ant
fileset fatures). Now we have no more false alarms. I have also
excluded archives and binaries, so checking if we have new problematic
files will be easy, as everything but Standards and Notes must be 0 in
the report. (I have also updated
https://freemarker.apache.org/committer-howto.html#making-releases
point 6 accordingly.)


Thanks Daniel

Jacques

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Daniel Dekany]

Friday, February 9, 2018, 2:07:54 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Le 08/02/2018 à 22:30, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>> Monday, February 5, 2018, 9:38:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>> Le 04/02/2018 à 10:08, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
> BTW is Freemarker providing a RAT report?
 `ant rat` generates one locally. It contains quite a few false alarms,
 but I have only used it for manual checking. It's not published
 anywhere.

>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> You can remove false alarms using a rat-excludes.txt placed in the root.
>> That's undocumented, or at least I can't find it in the documentation
>> of Rat. Despite that, I have tried it with the latest stable (0.12,
>> from 07-Jun-2016... suspicious), but it had no effect. So for now it
>> will be Ant's good old fileset excludes.
> That's also a good solution for now indeed
>
> Jacques

I have externalized them to a "rat-excludes" file (purely using Ant
fileset fatures). Now we have no more false alarms. I have also
excluded archives and binaries, so checking if we have new problematic
files will be easy, as everything but Standards and Notes must be 0 in
the report. (I have also updated
https://freemarker.apache.org/committer-howto.html#making-releases
point 6 accordingly.)

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 08/02/2018 à 22:30, Daniel Dekany a écrit :

Monday, February 5, 2018, 9:38:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Le 04/02/2018 à 10:08, Daniel Dekany a écrit :

BTW is Freemarker providing a RAT report?

`ant rat` generates one locally. It contains quite a few false alarms,
but I have only used it for manual checking. It's not published
anywhere.


Hi Daniel,

You can remove false alarms using a rat-excludes.txt placed in the root.

That's undocumented, or at least I can't find it in the documentation
of Rat. Despite that, I have tried it with the latest stable (0.12,
from 07-Jun-2016... suspicious), but it had no effect. So for now it
will be Ant's good old fileset excludes.

That's also a good solution for now indeed

Jacques

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Daniel Dekany]

Monday, February 5, 2018, 9:38:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Le 04/02/2018 à 10:08, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>>> BTW is Freemarker providing a RAT report?
>> `ant rat` generates one locally. It contains quite a few false alarms,
>> but I have only used it for manual checking. It's not published
>> anywhere.
>>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> You can remove false alarms using a rat-excludes.txt placed in the root.

That's undocumented, or at least I can't find it in the documentation
of Rat. Despite that, I have tried it with the latest stable (0.12,
from 07-Jun-2016... suspicious), but it had no effect. So for now it
will be Ant's good old fileset excludes.

> Jacques
>

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Daniel Dekany]

Tuesday, February 6, 2018, 7:59:54 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:

> This was a question. Somebody knows how to do this? Maybe from
> somebody who's in the IPMC those field are editable?
>
> Anyway, at this point, I will start that voting when I get to there,
> regardless of this...

I mean, the resolution DISCUSS, not the voting...

> Tuesday, February 6, 2018, 6:23:22 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>> I am confused. Who are we waiting for to do what?
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 4:39 AM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good! (And sounds like communication is lacking on the other side...)
>>> Now you aren't red on
>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker#reporting.
>>> 
>>> There are two other red items though, and I have to admit that I don't
>>> know where does it get that false information from:
>>> 
>>> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
>>> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
>>> 
>>> Do we still miss some project meta info file somewhere? Where are
>>> these Whimsy-related things documented? Are we supposed to care at
>>> all?
>>> 
>>> I have just checked https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ofbiz...
>>> well guys, you don't even have Software Grant and IP Clearance. So I
>>> guess this Whimsy thing is still in early stage... or OFBiz needs a
>>> good lawyer. (-;
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Friday, February 2, 2018, 11:02:38 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>> 
 It looks like this is now taken care of (user jonesde now on the IPMC 
 list):
 
 http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?ctte=incubator
 
 -David
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Sergio Fernández  
 wrote:
 
> Please David, engage again with private@incubator.a.o to see what's going
> on. I don't recall your issue been discussed, but I may missed it.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2018 06:39, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:
> 
>> Monday, January 29, 2018, 7:16:21 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Dekany 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
 
> Great, Daniel!
> 
> Let's move to the next step and open the vote at
> general@incubator.a.o
 ;-)
 
 David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
 24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
 progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
 the private list.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I got a reply from John D. Ament on Jan 24th saying he was sending
>> notice,
>>> but I haven't seen anything since and not sure if I should even expect
>> any
>>> sort of email notification or if it's something I'd have to hunt around
>> for
>>> or follow up on.
>>> 
>>> FWIW I'm not on the Incubator PMC list yet (my ASF username is
>> 'jonesde'):
>>> 
>>> http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
>>> 
>>> I also don't know if my failure to respond to John's email in June will
>>> cause any issues, or in general what to expect with all this so I
> really
>>> can't say much.
>> 
>> If the process is like here, they have vote (at least 3 days), then
>> wait for 3 days so the board can veto the decision, and only then mail
>> you... I hope they have started the process. If they won't report back
>> in a few days, it would be good if you ask them.
>> 
>>> -David
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel Dekany
>> 
>> 
> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Daniel Dekany
>>> 
>>> 
>>
>>
>>
>

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Jacopo Cappellato]

I think the last final steps should be:
1) send the charter proposal, already prepared by Daniel, to the Incubator
general list for review before the vote [*]
2) start the graduation vote in the Incubator general list; see "The
Recommendation Vote" [**]

Then (if the recommendation vote will be successful) we will submit the
resolution to the Board.

Regards,

Jacopo

[*] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#preparing_a_charter
[**] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_
recommendation_vote


On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:23 AM, Ralph Goers 
wrote:

> I am confused. Who are we waiting for to do what?
>
> Ralph
>
> > On Feb 3, 2018, at 4:39 AM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:
> >
> > Good! (And sounds like communication is lacking on the other side...)
> > Now you aren't red on
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker#reporting.
> >
> > There are two other red items though, and I have to admit that I don't
> > know where does it get that false information from:
> >
> > * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> > * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> >
> > Do we still miss some project meta info file somewhere? Where are
> > these Whimsy-related things documented? Are we supposed to care at
> > all?
> >
> > I have just checked https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ofbiz...
> > well guys, you don't even have Software Grant and IP Clearance. So I
> > guess this Whimsy thing is still in early stage... or OFBiz needs a
> > good lawyer. (-;
> >
> >
> > Friday, February 2, 2018, 11:02:38 PM, David E Jones wrote:
> >
> >> It looks like this is now taken care of (user jonesde now on the IPMC
> list):
> >>
> >> http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?ctte=incubator
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Sergio Fernández 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Please David, engage again with private@incubator.a.o to see what's
> going
> >>> on. I don't recall your issue been discussed, but I may missed it.
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 30, 2018 06:39, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:
> >>>
>  Monday, January 29, 2018, 7:16:21 PM, David E Jones wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Dekany 
>  wrote:
> >
> >> Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> >>
> >>> Great, Daniel!
> >>>
> >>> Let's move to the next step and open the vote at
> >>> general@incubator.a.o
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
> >> 24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
> >> progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
> >> the private list.
> >
> >
> > I got a reply from John D. Ament on Jan 24th saying he was sending
>  notice,
> > but I haven't seen anything since and not sure if I should even
> expect
>  any
> > sort of email notification or if it's something I'd have to hunt
> around
>  for
> > or follow up on.
> >
> > FWIW I'm not on the Incubator PMC list yet (my ASF username is
>  'jonesde'):
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
> >
> > I also don't know if my failure to respond to John's email in June
> will
> > cause any issues, or in general what to expect with all this so I
> >>> really
> > can't say much.
> 
>  If the process is like here, they have vote (at least 3 days), then
>  wait for 3 days so the board can veto the decision, and only then mail
>  you... I hope they have started the process. If they won't report back
>  in a few days, it would be good if you ask them.
> 
> > -David
> 
>  --
>  Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
> 
> 
> >>>
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Daniel Dekany
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Ralph Goers]

I am confused. Who are we waiting for to do what?

Ralph

> On Feb 3, 2018, at 4:39 AM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:
> 
> Good! (And sounds like communication is lacking on the other side...)
> Now you aren't red on
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker#reporting.
> 
> There are two other red items though, and I have to admit that I don't
> know where does it get that false information from:
> 
> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> 
> Do we still miss some project meta info file somewhere? Where are
> these Whimsy-related things documented? Are we supposed to care at
> all?
> 
> I have just checked https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ofbiz...
> well guys, you don't even have Software Grant and IP Clearance. So I
> guess this Whimsy thing is still in early stage... or OFBiz needs a
> good lawyer. (-;
> 
> 
> Friday, February 2, 2018, 11:02:38 PM, David E Jones wrote:
> 
>> It looks like this is now taken care of (user jonesde now on the IPMC list):
>> 
>> http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?ctte=incubator
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Sergio Fernández  wrote:
>> 
>>> Please David, engage again with private@incubator.a.o to see what's going
>>> on. I don't recall your issue been discussed, but I may missed it.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2018 06:39, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:
>>> 
 Monday, January 29, 2018, 7:16:21 PM, David E Jones wrote:
 
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Dekany 
 wrote:
> 
>> Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>> 
>>> Great, Daniel!
>>> 
>>> Let's move to the next step and open the vote at
>>> general@incubator.a.o
>> ;-)
>> 
>> David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
>> 24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
>> progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
>> the private list.
> 
> 
> I got a reply from John D. Ament on Jan 24th saying he was sending
 notice,
> but I haven't seen anything since and not sure if I should even expect
 any
> sort of email notification or if it's something I'd have to hunt around
 for
> or follow up on.
> 
> FWIW I'm not on the Incubator PMC list yet (my ASF username is
 'jonesde'):
> 
> http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
> 
> I also don't know if my failure to respond to John's email in June will
> cause any issues, or in general what to expect with all this so I
>>> really
> can't say much.
 
 If the process is like here, they have vote (at least 3 days), then
 wait for 3 days so the board can veto the decision, and only then mail
 you... I hope they have started the process. If they won't report back
 in a few days, it would be good if you ask them.
 
> -David
 
 --
 Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany
 
 
>>> 
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Daniel Dekany
> 
> 

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 04/02/2018 à 10:08, Daniel Dekany a écrit :

BTW is Freemarker providing a RAT report?

`ant rat` generates one locally. It contains quite a few false alarms,
but I have only used it for manual checking. It's not published
anywhere.


Hi Daniel,

You can remove false alarms using a rat-excludes.txt placed in the root.

Jacques

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Daniel Dekany]

Sunday, February 4, 2018, 11:00:08 AM, David E Jones wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> For OFBiz I don't understand why
>>
>> # No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
>>
>> I guess David, Andrew and the ASF cleared this aspect when we graduated
>>
>
> The OFBiz graduation was about a decade ago, I doubt the meta data for
> older podlings like is kept up to date. A lot has changed at the ASF since
> then, many of the tools around now didn't exist either.
>
> -David

Just to be 100% clear, I was kidding with OFBiz having IP issues...

Anyway, guys, where do I edit those fields on Whimsy? I don't have
proper rights? Or is there some structured file in some repo
somewhere? Am I blind?

Meanwhile, I have checked 3 *recently* successfully graduated
projects:
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/trafodion - Red, like us, still alive!
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/impala - Not red
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/juneau - Not red

I thought maybe, just maybe, the secret is in the DOAP file, but nor
Impala nor Juneau have a DOAP file (which is interesting). And the
project status file (like
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/freemarker.xml)
is unstructured.

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[David E Jones]

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> For OFBiz I don't understand why
>
> # No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
>
> I guess David, Andrew and the ASF cleared this aspect when we graduated
>

The OFBiz graduation was about a decade ago, I doubt the meta data for
older podlings like is kept up to date. A lot has changed at the ASF since
then, many of the tools around now didn't exist either.

-David

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Daniel Dekany]

Good! (And sounds like communication is lacking on the other side...)
Now you aren't red on
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker#reporting.

There are two other red items though, and I have to admit that I don't
know where does it get that false information from:

 * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
 * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues

Do we still miss some project meta info file somewhere? Where are
these Whimsy-related things documented? Are we supposed to care at
all?

I have just checked https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ofbiz...
well guys, you don't even have Software Grant and IP Clearance. So I
guess this Whimsy thing is still in early stage... or OFBiz needs a
good lawyer. (-;


Friday, February 2, 2018, 11:02:38 PM, David E Jones wrote:

> It looks like this is now taken care of (user jonesde now on the IPMC list):
>
> http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?ctte=incubator
>
> -David
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Sergio Fernández  wrote:
>
>> Please David, engage again with private@incubator.a.o to see what's going
>> on. I don't recall your issue been discussed, but I may missed it.
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2018 06:39, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:
>>
>> > Monday, January 29, 2018, 7:16:21 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Dekany 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Great, Daniel!
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Let's move to the next step and open the vote at
>> general@incubator.a.o
>> > >> ;-)
>> > >>
>> > >> David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
>> > >> 24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
>> > >> progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
>> > >> the private list.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I got a reply from John D. Ament on Jan 24th saying he was sending
>> > notice,
>> > > but I haven't seen anything since and not sure if I should even expect
>> > any
>> > > sort of email notification or if it's something I'd have to hunt around
>> > for
>> > > or follow up on.
>> > >
>> > > FWIW I'm not on the Incubator PMC list yet (my ASF username is
>> > 'jonesde'):
>> > >
>> > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
>> > >
>> > > I also don't know if my failure to respond to John's email in June will
>> > > cause any issues, or in general what to expect with all this so I
>> really
>> > > can't say much.
>> >
>> > If the process is like here, they have vote (at least 3 days), then
>> > wait for 3 days so the board can veto the decision, and only then mail
>> > you... I hope they have started the process. If they won't report back
>> > in a few days, it would be good if you ask them.
>> >
>> > > -David
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> >  Daniel Dekany
>> >
>> >
>>

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[David E Jones]

It looks like this is now taken care of (user jonesde now on the IPMC list):

http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?ctte=incubator

-David


On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Sergio Fernández  wrote:

> Please David, engage again with private@incubator.a.o to see what's going
> on. I don't recall your issue been discussed, but I may missed it.
>
> On Jan 30, 2018 06:39, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:
>
> > Monday, January 29, 2018, 7:16:21 PM, David E Jones wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Dekany 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Great, Daniel!
> > >> >
> > >> > Let's move to the next step and open the vote at
> general@incubator.a.o
> > >> ;-)
> > >>
> > >> David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
> > >> 24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
> > >> progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
> > >> the private list.
> > >
> > >
> > > I got a reply from John D. Ament on Jan 24th saying he was sending
> > notice,
> > > but I haven't seen anything since and not sure if I should even expect
> > any
> > > sort of email notification or if it's something I'd have to hunt around
> > for
> > > or follow up on.
> > >
> > > FWIW I'm not on the Incubator PMC list yet (my ASF username is
> > 'jonesde'):
> > >
> > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
> > >
> > > I also don't know if my failure to respond to John's email in June will
> > > cause any issues, or in general what to expect with all this so I
> really
> > > can't say much.
> >
> > If the process is like here, they have vote (at least 3 days), then
> > wait for 3 days so the board can veto the decision, and only then mail
> > you... I hope they have started the process. If they won't report back
> > in a few days, it would be good if you ask them.
> >
> > > -David
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >  Daniel Dekany
> >
> >
>

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Sergio Fernández]

Please David, engage again with private@incubator.a.o to see what's going
on. I don't recall your issue been discussed, but I may missed it.

On Jan 30, 2018 06:39, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:

> Monday, January 29, 2018, 7:16:21 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Dekany 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> >>
> >> > Great, Daniel!
> >> >
> >> > Let's move to the next step and open the vote at general@incubator.a.o
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
> >> 24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
> >> progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
> >> the private list.
> >
> >
> > I got a reply from John D. Ament on Jan 24th saying he was sending
> notice,
> > but I haven't seen anything since and not sure if I should even expect
> any
> > sort of email notification or if it's something I'd have to hunt around
> for
> > or follow up on.
> >
> > FWIW I'm not on the Incubator PMC list yet (my ASF username is
> 'jonesde'):
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
> >
> > I also don't know if my failure to respond to John's email in June will
> > cause any issues, or in general what to expect with all this so I really
> > can't say much.
>
> If the process is like here, they have vote (at least 3 days), then
> wait for 3 days so the board can veto the decision, and only then mail
> you... I hope they have started the process. If they won't report back
> in a few days, it would be good if you ask them.
>
> > -David
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Daniel Dekany]

Monday, January 29, 2018, 7:16:21 PM, David E Jones wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:
>
>> Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>>
>> > Great, Daniel!
>> >
>> > Let's move to the next step and open the vote at general@incubator.a.o
>> ;-)
>>
>> David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
>> 24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
>> progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
>> the private list.
>
>
> I got a reply from John D. Ament on Jan 24th saying he was sending notice,
> but I haven't seen anything since and not sure if I should even expect any
> sort of email notification or if it's something I'd have to hunt around for
> or follow up on.
>
> FWIW I'm not on the Incubator PMC list yet (my ASF username is 'jonesde'):
>
> http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
>
> I also don't know if my failure to respond to John's email in June will
> cause any issues, or in general what to expect with all this so I really
> can't say much.

If the process is like here, they have vote (at least 3 days), then
wait for 3 days so the board can veto the decision, and only then mail
you... I hope they have started the process. If they won't report back
in a few days, it would be good if you ask them.

> -David

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[David E Jones]

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:

> Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>
> > Great, Daniel!
> >
> > Let's move to the next step and open the vote at general@incubator.a.o
> ;-)
>
> David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
> 24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
> progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
> the private list.


I got a reply from John D. Ament on Jan 24th saying he was sending notice,
but I haven't seen anything since and not sure if I should even expect any
sort of email notification or if it's something I'd have to hunt around for
or follow up on.

FWIW I'm not on the Incubator PMC list yet (my ASF username is 'jonesde'):

http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator

I also don't know if my failure to respond to John's email in June will
cause any issues, or in general what to expect with all this so I really
can't say much.

-David

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Daniel Dekany]

Monday, January 29, 2018, 4:35:38 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:

> Great, Daniel!
>
> Let's move to the next step and open the vote at general@incubator.a.o ;-)

David has started discussing the issue with his Mentor status on Jan
24. I'm waiting for that to be resolved. Not sure if there's any
progress. David, did they answer? Because then that wasn't CC-ed to
the private list.

> On Jan 27, 2018 12:31, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:
>
>> Vote on the podling mailing list on the Apache FreeMarker Project
>> Resolution (graduate FreeMarker to TLP) passed with the following
>> results: 4 "+1" votes from IPMC members (also 3 "+1" from other PPMC
>> members, and 2 "+1" from non-members), no "0" votes, no "-1" votes.
>> Thus, a similar graduation vote will be soon follow (within days
>> hopefully) on gene...@incubator.apache.org.
>>
>> The votes were:
>>   Jacopo Cappellato  +1 (binding)
>>   Jacques Le Roux  +1 (binding)
>>   Ralph Goers  +1 (binding)
>>   Sergio Fernández  +1 (binding)
>>   Dániel Dékány  +1 non-binding PPMC
>>   David E Jones  +1 non-binding PPMC
>>   Woonsan Ko  +1 non-binding PPMC
>>   Barrie Selack  +1 non-binding non-PPMC
>>   Piyush Mor  +1 non-binding non-PPMC
>>
>> Thank you for your participation!
>>
>> The initial vote mail that contains the Resolution:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e85c72b2a7644005ff44d144e08807
>> 362e0461a5f854a1f691a960db@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>>
>> Vote mails:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4021085e88c35ea254e4a15e7320f1
>> bf3d09a5562913edbd7c00d0c6@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/07d6cff8f5616459d41bf8a6c77c17
>> 332c6783b137e1b23132bcb6f3@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d2852a2cad7b1e46e50cd0ee377020
>> 9acfbce761799378a822c23bb3@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d7c03d0cce4741f502f06ed591b9f9
>> a1180cf79d5473e200d7ee8d6a@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e9da0c97bed4ea27f17aae46f98382
>> 8079574a9b6dc517d4080010ea@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8af3367437eda9fb5839a02b7a7746
>> 146ad8df23847c807a1e34f6bf@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9709c8d5fc7feb953503d201f3cb0a
>> 94eb6140cfc707fe71596102f3@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2d91983f12c38fb4b3eb3f973c9d80
>> 0142ea50627515bb871a5dfe1c@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/3dfbe985c1a68e7fcfe77d34385e3b
>> f5ef0766b4239d0a22bf528810@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>  Daniel Dekany
>>
>>

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Sergio Fernández]

Great, Daniel!

Let's move to the next step and open the vote at general@incubator.a.o ;-)


On Jan 27, 2018 12:31, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:

> Vote on the podling mailing list on the Apache FreeMarker Project
> Resolution (graduate FreeMarker to TLP) passed with the following
> results: 4 "+1" votes from IPMC members (also 3 "+1" from other PPMC
> members, and 2 "+1" from non-members), no "0" votes, no "-1" votes.
> Thus, a similar graduation vote will be soon follow (within days
> hopefully) on gene...@incubator.apache.org.
>
> The votes were:
>   Jacopo Cappellato  +1 (binding)
>   Jacques Le Roux  +1 (binding)
>   Ralph Goers  +1 (binding)
>   Sergio Fernández  +1 (binding)
>   Dániel Dékány  +1 non-binding PPMC
>   David E Jones  +1 non-binding PPMC
>   Woonsan Ko  +1 non-binding PPMC
>   Barrie Selack  +1 non-binding non-PPMC
>   Piyush Mor  +1 non-binding non-PPMC
>
> Thank you for your participation!
>
> The initial vote mail that contains the Resolution:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e85c72b2a7644005ff44d144e08807
> 362e0461a5f854a1f691a960db@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>
> Vote mails:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4021085e88c35ea254e4a15e7320f1
> bf3d09a5562913edbd7c00d0c6@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/07d6cff8f5616459d41bf8a6c77c17
> 332c6783b137e1b23132bcb6f3@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d2852a2cad7b1e46e50cd0ee377020
> 9acfbce761799378a822c23bb3@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d7c03d0cce4741f502f06ed591b9f9
> a1180cf79d5473e200d7ee8d6a@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e9da0c97bed4ea27f17aae46f98382
> 8079574a9b6dc517d4080010ea@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8af3367437eda9fb5839a02b7a7746
> 146ad8df23847c807a1e34f6bf@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9709c8d5fc7feb953503d201f3cb0a
> 94eb6140cfc707fe71596102f3@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2d91983f12c38fb4b3eb3f973c9d80
> 0142ea50627515bb871a5dfe1c@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/3dfbe985c1a68e7fcfe77d34385e3b
> f5ef0766b4239d0a22bf528810@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>

[RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache FreeMarker Project from Incubator to TLP

[Daniel Dekany]

Vote on the podling mailing list on the Apache FreeMarker Project
Resolution (graduate FreeMarker to TLP) passed with the following
results: 4 "+1" votes from IPMC members (also 3 "+1" from other PPMC
members, and 2 "+1" from non-members), no "0" votes, no "-1" votes.
Thus, a similar graduation vote will be soon follow (within days
hopefully) on gene...@incubator.apache.org.

The votes were:
  Jacopo Cappellato  +1 (binding)
  Jacques Le Roux  +1 (binding)
  Ralph Goers  +1 (binding)
  Sergio Fernández  +1 (binding)
  Dániel Dékány  +1 non-binding PPMC
  David E Jones  +1 non-binding PPMC
  Woonsan Ko  +1 non-binding PPMC
  Barrie Selack  +1 non-binding non-PPMC
  Piyush Mor  +1 non-binding non-PPMC

Thank you for your participation!

The initial vote mail that contains the Resolution:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e85c72b2a7644005ff44d144e08807362e0461a5f854a1f691a960db@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E

Vote mails:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4021085e88c35ea254e4a15e7320f1bf3d09a5562913edbd7c00d0c6@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/07d6cff8f5616459d41bf8a6c77c17332c6783b137e1b23132bcb6f3@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d2852a2cad7b1e46e50cd0ee3770209acfbce761799378a822c23bb3@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d7c03d0cce4741f502f06ed591b9f9a1180cf79d5473e200d7ee8d6a@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e9da0c97bed4ea27f17aae46f983828079574a9b6dc517d4080010ea@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8af3367437eda9fb5839a02b7a7746146ad8df23847c807a1e34f6bf@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9709c8d5fc7feb953503d201f3cb0a94eb6140cfc707fe71596102f3@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2d91983f12c38fb4b3eb3f973c9d800142ea50627515bb871a5dfe1c@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/3dfbe985c1a68e7fcfe77d34385e3bf5ef0766b4239d0a22bf528810@%3Cdev.freemarker.apache.org%3E

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany