Re: Fork some of our MP impls

[Francois Papon]

No problem, I don't care so much about the name too ;)

regards,

François
fpa...@apache.org

Le 22/09/2020 à 20:01, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
> Hmm, both are not linked this way (more the opposite ;)).
> Why not kat (cat for kubernetes, read somewhere everybody loves cats)? ;)
>
> Btw i dont care much of the name while it can last but Id like some
> other opinion if possible (even negative) - otherwise it can be done
> at github ;).
>
> Le mar. 22 sept. 2020 à 19:34, Francois Papon
> mailto:francois.pa...@openobject.fr>> a
> écrit :
>
> May be we can call it "excalibur" as we already have "arthur" :)
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpa...@apache.org 
>
> Le 21/09/2020 à 21:05, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
>> Up, any issue to create a geronimo-stack (happy to get a better
>> name) project?
>>
>>
>> Le lun. 10 août 2020 à 08:47, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>
>> Small up, guess it is still holidays so will wait for a few
>> more weeks to try to get more feedbacks before doing anything.
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>
>> Le ven. 31 juil. 2020 à 09:16, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>
>> Makes sense, thanks François
>>
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>> Le ven. 31 juil. 2020 à 09:15, Francois Papon
>> > > a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Romain,
>>
>> I think the config spec is interesting and could be
>> add to the list.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> François
>> fpa...@apache.org 
>>
>> Le 31/07/2020 à 08:34, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> After some years of MP I think it is not a safe
>>> enough technology for long term applications - i.e.
>>> maintained and evolved, not just developed for 6 months.
>>> The main drawback is that it changes and breaks too
>>> often and from my understanding it is not likely
>>> about to change (what I understood is it will likely
>>> be worse and can even import vendor/library API in
>>> the spec API as it had been done for tracing one).
>>>
>>> The most common requirements are, IMHO:
>>>
>>> 1. health
>>> 2. metrics (gauge+counter+openmetrics exporter,
>>> others are fancy things)
>>> 3. tracing
>>>
>>> maybe jwt-auth even if less sure.
>>>
>>> Therefore I wonder if we want to fork our own MP
>>> impl to provide these 3 specs simplified versions
>>> with a stable API.
>>> I envision a single repo with the 3 api/impl.
>>>
>>> wdyt?
>>>
>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>

Re: Fork some of our MP impls

[Romain Manni-Bucau]

Hmm, both are not linked this way (more the opposite ;)).
Why not kat (cat for kubernetes, read somewhere everybody loves cats)? ;)

Btw i dont care much of the name while it can last but Id like some other
opinion if possible (even negative) - otherwise it can be done at github ;).

Le mar. 22 sept. 2020 à 19:34, Francois Papon 
a écrit :

> May be we can call it "excalibur" as we already have "arthur" :)
>
> regards,
>
> Françoisfpa...@apache.org
>
> Le 21/09/2020 à 21:05, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
>
> Up, any issue to create a geronimo-stack (happy to get a better name)
> project?
>
>
> Le lun. 10 août 2020 à 08:47, Romain Manni-Bucau 
> a écrit :
>
>> Small up, guess it is still holidays so will wait for a few more weeks to
>> try to get more feedbacks before doing anything.
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> @rmannibucau  |  Blog
>>  | Old Blog
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>> 
>>
>>
>> Le ven. 31 juil. 2020 à 09:16, Romain Manni-Bucau 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Makes sense, thanks François
>>>
>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> @rmannibucau  |  Blog
>>>  | Old Blog
>>>  | Github
>>>  | LinkedIn
>>>  | Book
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Le ven. 31 juil. 2020 à 09:15, Francois Papon <
>>> francois.pa...@openobject.fr> a écrit :
>>>
 Hi Romain,

 I think the config spec is interesting and could be add to the list.

 regards,

 Françoisfpa...@apache.org

 Le 31/07/2020 à 08:34, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :

 Hi everyone,

 After some years of MP I think it is not a safe enough technology for
 long term applications - i.e. maintained and evolved, not just
 developed for 6 months.
 The main drawback is that it changes and breaks too often and from my
 understanding it is not likely about to change (what I understood is it
 will likely be worse and can even import vendor/library API in the spec API
 as it had been done for tracing one).

 The most common requirements are, IMHO:

 1. health
 2. metrics (gauge+counter+openmetrics exporter, others are fancy things)
 3. tracing

 maybe jwt-auth even if less sure.

 Therefore I wonder if we want to fork our own MP impl to provide these
 3 specs simplified versions with a stable API.
 I envision a single repo with the 3 api/impl.

 wdyt?

 Romain Manni-Bucau
 @rmannibucau  |  Blog
  | Old Blog
  | Github
  | LinkedIn
  | Book
 

Re: Fork some of our MP impls

[Francois Papon]

May be we can call it "excalibur" as we already have "arthur" :)

regards,

François
fpa...@apache.org

Le 21/09/2020 à 21:05, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
> Up, any issue to create a geronimo-stack (happy to get a better name)
> project?
>
>
> Le lun. 10 août 2020 à 08:47, Romain Manni-Bucau
> mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
> Small up, guess it is still holidays so will wait for a few more
> weeks to try to get more feedbacks before doing anything.
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau  |  Blog
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> 
> 
>
>
> Le ven. 31 juil. 2020 à 09:16, Romain Manni-Bucau
> mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
> Makes sense, thanks François
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau  |  Blog
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> 
> 
>
>
> Le ven. 31 juil. 2020 à 09:15, Francois Papon
>  > a écrit :
>
> Hi Romain,
>
> I think the config spec is interesting and could be add to
> the list.
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpa...@apache.org 
>
> Le 31/07/2020 à 08:34, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> After some years of MP I think it is not a safe enough
>> technology for long term applications - i.e. maintained
>> and evolved, not just developed for 6 months.
>> The main drawback is that it changes and breaks too often
>> and from my understanding it is not likely about to
>> change (what I understood is it will likely be worse and
>> can even import vendor/library API in the spec API as it
>> had been done for tracing one).
>>
>> The most common requirements are, IMHO:
>>
>> 1. health
>> 2. metrics (gauge+counter+openmetrics exporter, others
>> are fancy things)
>> 3. tracing
>>
>> maybe jwt-auth even if less sure.
>>
>> Therefore I wonder if we want to fork our own MP impl to
>> provide these 3 specs simplified versions with a stable API.
>> I envision a single repo with the 3 api/impl.
>>
>> wdyt?
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> @rmannibucau  |  Blog
>>  | Old Blog
>>  | Github
>>  | LinkedIn
>>  | Book
>> 
>> 
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Geronimo XBean 4.18

[Francois Papon]

+1 (non-binding)

Thanks!

regards,

François
fpa...@apache.org

Le 21/09/2020 à 08:21, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
> Hi everyone,
>
> Here is the vote for xbean 4.18 which provides asm9 shade.
>
> Here is the
> tag: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/xbean/tags/xbean-4.18/
>  (rev 
> 1881880)
> Here is the staging
> repo: 
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1126/
> 
> Here is the dist
> area:  https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/geronimo/xbean/
> 
> My Key is the same as last time.
>
> Please vote:
>
> [ ] +1 release it
> [ ] -1 cause ${reason}
>
> Vote will be open for 3 days or until we get enough bindings as usual.
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Geronimo XBean 4.18

[Mark Struberg]

+1

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 21.09.2020 um 08:21 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau :
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Here is the vote for xbean 4.18 which provides asm9 shade.
> 
> Here is the tag: 
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/xbean/tags/xbean-4.18/ 
>  (rev 
> 1881880)
> Here is the staging repo: 
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1126/ 
> 
> Here is the dist area:  
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/geronimo/xbean/ 
> 
> My Key is the same as last time.
> 
> Please vote:
> 
> [ ] +1 release it
> [ ] -1 cause ${reason}
> 
> Vote will be open for 3 days or until we get enough bindings as usual.
> 
> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>