[jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-1638) Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638?page=comments#action_12415496 ] John Sisson commented on GERONIMO-1638: --- Currently working on scripts as discussed at http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg22807.html . Have made changes but they need to be tested on windows, cygwin and unix, so looks like this is going to be for 1.1.1 . Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store --- Key: GERONIMO-1638 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638 Project: Geronimo Type: New Feature Security: public(Regular issues) Components: usability Versions: 1.0 Reporter: Gianny Damour Assignee: John Sisson Fix For: 1.1 David J. sent to the dev mailing list: Many people have talked on and off about how to set up multiple servers sharing the same repository and config-store, but we haven't arrived at an agreed on way to do it. We have a prospective customer for this feature (Vincent Massol with Cargo) so I'd like to move beyond thinking about it in my head, discuss it, and have someone implement it. I believe any implementation will be more or less trivial, the hard part is figuring out what to do. I've only thought of ways to extend what we have now, rather than restructure anything or add big new capabilities. If someone sees a better way, please speak up. So, we have a ServerInfo gbean that knows where geronimo is located and can resolve absolute locations for other components. Then we have things like the repository and config store gbeans that typically are located outside the var dir and things like the logging framework, local attribute manager, derby, and tomcat, that typically keep stuff in the var directory. All or most of these start with the first configuration loaded so they can't have any attributes overridden by config.xml: in fact this file is read by one of the gbeans that we need to relocate. I've thought of two related solutions. Both of them involve giving ServerInfo knowledge of another path and another resolve method. One would be something like resolveVar and would normally resolve to geronimo_home/var. This would involve all the gbeans currently looking inside var having the var trimmed off the front of their paths and using the new resolveVar method. In this case we'd have different servers represented as e.g. var1 var2 var3 ... The other would give ServerInfo something like resolveServer which would normally resolve to geronimo_home. The gbeans looking inside var would keep their current paths and just call the new resolve method instead of the old one. In this case we'd have servers like var server1/var server2/var ... In either case I think starting geronimo with a command line argument pointing to the var directory is the only way to specify which server you want to run; the default would presumably be as now var. Several people have suggested putting an additional config-store into var for private use by a particular server. At the moment I think that providing a different config-store class that uses the new resolve method on server info would be the best way to do this. I'm not attached to these ideas but this is as far as my thinking has gone. Please comment. thanks david jencks -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
Re: [jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-1638) Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store
BTW, I think additional fixes are required in 1.1.1 before claiming support for multiple concurrent server instances from a single installation.. Awhile back I was able to start the server using an external var directory (via -Dorg.apache.geronimo.server.dir). After changing all the ports and trying to start a second instance from the default location, I encountered a startup exception regarding the activemq transaction journal. Suspect code changes are needed to relocate the journal to a location outside the installation directory. Thanks -Dave- John Sisson (JIRA) wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638?page=comments#action_12415496 ] John Sisson commented on GERONIMO-1638: --- Currently working on scripts as discussed at http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg22807.html . Have made changes but they need to be tested on windows, cygwin and unix, so looks like this is going to be for 1.1.1 . Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store --- Key: GERONIMO-1638 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638 Project: Geronimo Type: New Feature Security: public(Regular issues) Components: usability Versions: 1.0 Reporter: Gianny Damour Assignee: John Sisson Fix For: 1.1 David J. sent to the dev mailing list: Many people have talked on and off about how to set up multiple servers sharing the same repository and config-store, but we haven't arrived at an agreed on way to do it. We have a prospective customer for this feature (Vincent Massol with Cargo) so I'd like to move beyond thinking about it in my head, discuss it, and have someone implement it. I believe any implementation will be more or less trivial, the hard part is figuring out what to do. I've only thought of ways to extend what we have now, rather than restructure anything or add big new capabilities. If someone sees a better way, please speak up. So, we have a ServerInfo gbean that knows where geronimo is located and can resolve absolute locations for other components. Then we have things like the repository and config store gbeans that typically are located outside the var dir and things like the logging framework, local attribute manager, derby, and tomcat, that typically keep stuff in the var directory. All or most of these start with the first configuration loaded so they can't have any attributes overridden by config.xml: in fact this file is read by one of the gbeans that we need to relocate. I've thought of two related solutions. Both of them involve giving ServerInfo knowledge of another path and another resolve method. One would be something like resolveVar and would normally resolve to geronimo_home/var. This would involve all the gbeans currently looking inside var having the var trimmed off the front of their paths and using the new resolveVar method. In this case we'd have different servers represented as e.g. var1 var2 var3 ... The other would give ServerInfo something like resolveServer which would normally resolve to geronimo_home. The gbeans looking inside var would keep their current paths and just call the new resolve method instead of the old one. In this case we'd have servers like var server1/var server2/var ... In either case I think starting geronimo with a command line argument pointing to the var directory is the only way to specify which server you want to run; the default would presumably be as now var. Several people have suggested putting an additional config-store into var for private use by a particular server. At the moment I think that providing a different config-store class that uses the new resolve method on server info would be the best way to do this. I'm not attached to these ideas but this is as far as my thinking has gone. Please comment. thanks david jencks
[jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-1638) Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638?page=comments#action_12415636 ] Gianny Damour commented on GERONIMO-1638: - Open a JIRA to fix the AMQ problem reported by Dave Colasurdo. http://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-746 Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store --- Key: GERONIMO-1638 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638 Project: Geronimo Type: New Feature Security: public(Regular issues) Components: usability Versions: 1.0 Reporter: Gianny Damour Assignee: John Sisson Fix For: 1.1 Attachments: GERONIMO-1638.patch David J. sent to the dev mailing list: Many people have talked on and off about how to set up multiple servers sharing the same repository and config-store, but we haven't arrived at an agreed on way to do it. We have a prospective customer for this feature (Vincent Massol with Cargo) so I'd like to move beyond thinking about it in my head, discuss it, and have someone implement it. I believe any implementation will be more or less trivial, the hard part is figuring out what to do. I've only thought of ways to extend what we have now, rather than restructure anything or add big new capabilities. If someone sees a better way, please speak up. So, we have a ServerInfo gbean that knows where geronimo is located and can resolve absolute locations for other components. Then we have things like the repository and config store gbeans that typically are located outside the var dir and things like the logging framework, local attribute manager, derby, and tomcat, that typically keep stuff in the var directory. All or most of these start with the first configuration loaded so they can't have any attributes overridden by config.xml: in fact this file is read by one of the gbeans that we need to relocate. I've thought of two related solutions. Both of them involve giving ServerInfo knowledge of another path and another resolve method. One would be something like resolveVar and would normally resolve to geronimo_home/var. This would involve all the gbeans currently looking inside var having the var trimmed off the front of their paths and using the new resolveVar method. In this case we'd have different servers represented as e.g. var1 var2 var3 ... The other would give ServerInfo something like resolveServer which would normally resolve to geronimo_home. The gbeans looking inside var would keep their current paths and just call the new resolve method instead of the old one. In this case we'd have servers like var server1/var server2/var ... In either case I think starting geronimo with a command line argument pointing to the var directory is the only way to specify which server you want to run; the default would presumably be as now var. Several people have suggested putting an additional config-store into var for private use by a particular server. At the moment I think that providing a different config-store class that uses the new resolve method on server info would be the best way to do this. I'm not attached to these ideas but this is as far as my thinking has gone. Please comment. thanks david jencks -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
Re: [jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-1638) Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store
Hi Dave, Thanks for pointing this problem out. I simply forget to provide an AMQ patch to fix it; this is now done: http://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-746. Also, this feature is broken in 1.1. Basically, SharedLib and FileKeystoreManager do not properly resolve their resources and, as a consequence, the server simply shuts down. Thanks, Gianny Dave Colasurdo wrote: BTW, I think additional fixes are required in 1.1.1 before claiming support for multiple concurrent server instances from a single installation.. Awhile back I was able to start the server using an external var directory (via -Dorg.apache.geronimo.server.dir). After changing all the ports and trying to start a second instance from the default location, I encountered a startup exception regarding the activemq transaction journal. Suspect code changes are needed to relocate the journal to a location outside the installation directory. Thanks -Dave- John Sisson (JIRA) wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638?page=comments#action_12415496 ] John Sisson commented on GERONIMO-1638: --- Currently working on scripts as discussed at http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg22807.html . Have made changes but they need to be tested on windows, cygwin and unix, so looks like this is going to be for 1.1.1 . Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store --- Key: GERONIMO-1638 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638 Project: Geronimo Type: New Feature Security: public(Regular issues) Components: usability Versions: 1.0 Reporter: Gianny Damour Assignee: John Sisson Fix For: 1.1 David J. sent to the dev mailing list: Many people have talked on and off about how to set up multiple servers sharing the same repository and config-store, but we haven't arrived at an agreed on way to do it. We have a prospective customer for this feature (Vincent Massol with Cargo) so I'd like to move beyond thinking about it in my head, discuss it, and have someone implement it. I believe any implementation will be more or less trivial, the hard part is figuring out what to do. I've only thought of ways to extend what we have now, rather than restructure anything or add big new capabilities. If someone sees a better way, please speak up. So, we have a ServerInfo gbean that knows where geronimo is located and can resolve absolute locations for other components. Then we have things like the repository and config store gbeans that typically are located outside the var dir and things like the logging framework, local attribute manager, derby, and tomcat, that typically keep stuff in the var directory. All or most of these start with the first configuration loaded so they can't have any attributes overridden by config.xml: in fact this file is read by one of the gbeans that we need to relocate. I've thought of two related solutions. Both of them involve giving ServerInfo knowledge of another path and another resolve method. One would be something like resolveVar and would normally resolve to geronimo_home/var. This would involve all the gbeans currently looking inside var having the var trimmed off the front of their paths and using the new resolveVar method. In this case we'd have different servers represented as e.g. var1 var2 var3 ... The other would give ServerInfo something like resolveServer which would normally resolve to geronimo_home. The gbeans looking inside var would keep their current paths and just call the new resolve method instead of the old one. In this case we'd have servers like var server1/var server2/var ... In either case I think starting geronimo with a command line argument pointing to the var directory is the only way to specify which server you want to run; the default would presumably be as now var. Several people have suggested putting an additional config-store into var for private use by a particular server. At the moment I think that providing a different config-store class that uses the new resolve method on server info would be the best way to do this. I'm not attached to these ideas but this is as far as my thinking has gone. Please comment. thanks david jencks
[jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-1638) Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638?page=comments#action_12402251 ] David Jencks commented on GERONIMO-1638: Backported revisions r378827, r379430, r382366 in rev 406493. We still need to tweak the scripts. Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store --- Key: GERONIMO-1638 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638 Project: Geronimo Type: New Feature Security: public(Regular issues) Components: usability Versions: 1.0 Reporter: Gianny Damour Assignee: John Sisson Fix For: 1.2 David J. sent to the dev mailing list: Many people have talked on and off about how to set up multiple servers sharing the same repository and config-store, but we haven't arrived at an agreed on way to do it. We have a prospective customer for this feature (Vincent Massol with Cargo) so I'd like to move beyond thinking about it in my head, discuss it, and have someone implement it. I believe any implementation will be more or less trivial, the hard part is figuring out what to do. I've only thought of ways to extend what we have now, rather than restructure anything or add big new capabilities. If someone sees a better way, please speak up. So, we have a ServerInfo gbean that knows where geronimo is located and can resolve absolute locations for other components. Then we have things like the repository and config store gbeans that typically are located outside the var dir and things like the logging framework, local attribute manager, derby, and tomcat, that typically keep stuff in the var directory. All or most of these start with the first configuration loaded so they can't have any attributes overridden by config.xml: in fact this file is read by one of the gbeans that we need to relocate. I've thought of two related solutions. Both of them involve giving ServerInfo knowledge of another path and another resolve method. One would be something like resolveVar and would normally resolve to geronimo_home/var. This would involve all the gbeans currently looking inside var having the var trimmed off the front of their paths and using the new resolveVar method. In this case we'd have different servers represented as e.g. var1 var2 var3 ... The other would give ServerInfo something like resolveServer which would normally resolve to geronimo_home. The gbeans looking inside var would keep their current paths and just call the new resolve method instead of the old one. In this case we'd have servers like var server1/var server2/var ... In either case I think starting geronimo with a command line argument pointing to the var directory is the only way to specify which server you want to run; the default would presumably be as now var. Several people have suggested putting an additional config-store into var for private use by a particular server. At the moment I think that providing a different config-store class that uses the new resolve method on server info would be the best way to do this. I'm not attached to these ideas but this is as far as my thinking has gone. Please comment. thanks david jencks -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
[jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-1638) Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638?page=comments#action_12366943 ] Gianny Damour commented on GERONIMO-1638: - The second solution has been implemented. When starting G, it is now possible to specify one of these two system properties: * org.apache.geronimo.server.name: name of the server to be started. If server1 is specified, then G will use the directory geronimo installation dir/server1; or * org.apache.geronimo.server.dir: directory of the server to be started. This can be either a relative or an absolute path. For instance, if ./server1 is specified, then G will use the directory geronimo installation dir/server1. Multiple servers sharing the same repo and config store --- Key: GERONIMO-1638 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1638 Project: Geronimo Type: New Feature Components: usability Versions: 1.0 Reporter: Gianny Damour Assignee: Gianny Damour Fix For: 1.1 David J. sent to the dev mailing list: Many people have talked on and off about how to set up multiple servers sharing the same repository and config-store, but we haven't arrived at an agreed on way to do it. We have a prospective customer for this feature (Vincent Massol with Cargo) so I'd like to move beyond thinking about it in my head, discuss it, and have someone implement it. I believe any implementation will be more or less trivial, the hard part is figuring out what to do. I've only thought of ways to extend what we have now, rather than restructure anything or add big new capabilities. If someone sees a better way, please speak up. So, we have a ServerInfo gbean that knows where geronimo is located and can resolve absolute locations for other components. Then we have things like the repository and config store gbeans that typically are located outside the var dir and things like the logging framework, local attribute manager, derby, and tomcat, that typically keep stuff in the var directory. All or most of these start with the first configuration loaded so they can't have any attributes overridden by config.xml: in fact this file is read by one of the gbeans that we need to relocate. I've thought of two related solutions. Both of them involve giving ServerInfo knowledge of another path and another resolve method. One would be something like resolveVar and would normally resolve to geronimo_home/var. This would involve all the gbeans currently looking inside var having the var trimmed off the front of their paths and using the new resolveVar method. In this case we'd have different servers represented as e.g. var1 var2 var3 ... The other would give ServerInfo something like resolveServer which would normally resolve to geronimo_home. The gbeans looking inside var would keep their current paths and just call the new resolve method instead of the old one. In this case we'd have servers like var server1/var server2/var ... In either case I think starting geronimo with a command line argument pointing to the var directory is the only way to specify which server you want to run; the default would presumably be as now var. Several people have suggested putting an additional config-store into var for private use by a particular server. At the moment I think that providing a different config-store class that uses the new resolve method on server info would be the best way to do this. I'm not attached to these ideas but this is as far as my thinking has gone. Please comment. thanks david jencks -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
