Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

2006-03-01 Thread Sachin Patel
I think you are really off base here.  :)  Take two steps back here.   
Please first go through the articles I recommended, it will give you  
a much better understanding of how eclipse plugins are built and  
debugged.  You need first and foremost and understanding of the PDE.   
Run though some of the tutorials on the eclipse site.  Create your  
own plugin, debug it.  Afterwards you'll have realized the answer to  
your questions.


- sachin



On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:31 PM, Lin Sun wrote:

Thanks.  I am willing to help out the documentation once I figure  
out how to
do that myself.  I did go through a basic Hello plugin development  
tutorial

but I still have the following specific questions:

1) When I imported devtools project into Eclipse, I imported it as  
a plugin
development--plugin project.   Then I gave it a project name and  
pointed the

project contents to directory devtools\modules\eclipse-plugin.
Selected default of the rest and finished creating the project.
However, I
noticed the devtools\modules\eclipse-plugin\plugin.xml file is  
created,
which was not there before I imported the devtools project into  
Eclipse.


2) Also, I'd like to know what should I have on the java build path  
of the
project?  I tried to put everything I can think of -- WTP 1.0.1 SDK  
zip

file, Eclipse 3.1.2. zip file, but when I tried to right click on
GenericServerBehaviour (inside of GeronimoServerBehavior.java file)  
and
selected open call hierarchy I got a the resource is not on the  
build
path of a Java project error.   I also could not find the java API  
doc of

this file either.

Thanks again for your help!

Lin

-Original Message-
From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:42 PM
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

Yes I can but it will be a while before I get to it.   Most of the
information you really need is in Plugin Development Guide in the
Eclipse Help and the tutorials on the Eclipse site which is full of
information to get started.  But before anything, your best bet is to
go though one of the tutorials on creating your first plugin to get
familiar with the the plugin development environment and how the
eclipse framework works.

See http://www.eclipse.org/articles/

- sachin



On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Lin Sun wrote:


I read your wiki page on how to develop Geronimo within eclipse
which was
very helpful.  However, I haven't been able to debug the Geronimo
plugin
within eclipse.   Is there any document on how to that, similar as
the wiki
page for developing Geronimo?   I think this will be very useful
for anyone
who wants to help out with the Geronimo plugin.

Thanks,

Lin

-Original Message-
From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:12 PM
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

Just like you would hunt down a problem in G or any other project.
Use the debugger.  Eclipse/WTP provides sdk distributions so all the
source is available.  You can put breakpoints in the geronimo code to
see the method call hierarchy in the debug view in Eclipse to get an
understanding of who calls what.

Another common practice is to verify problems against other server
adapters.  This would be a good indication that the bug is in WTP and
not the implementation of a given adapter.  Then you can use the
debugger to evaluate further.

- sachin



On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:33 PM, Lin Sun wrote:


Hi Sachin,

Thanks this information is very useful.  I am relatively new to the
plugin
development... Could you shed some light on how to tell if a defect
is in
WTP or Geronimo devtools?

Thanks,

Lin

-Original Message-
From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org; user@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

With the release of the Eclipse plugin, here are a list of helpful
resources where WTP/Eclipse specific questions can be asked and  
where

you'll be able to search for answers to many common questions.

http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/index_project.php

The newsgroup URL is news.eclipse.org and the WTP specific list is
eclipse.webtools.

The bug reporting tool for all Eclipse projects is https://
bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/

If you feel you find a defect in WTP that you feel affects the
functionality of the Geronimo plugin, for tracking purposes open a
Jira in Geronimo and link it to the bugzilla number.  This way the
project is aware and thus can ensure that the defect gets added to
the WTP adopter list and can take a higher priority.

Thanks.

- sachin











RE: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

2006-02-28 Thread Lin Sun
I read your wiki page on how to develop Geronimo within eclipse which was
very helpful.  However, I haven't been able to debug the Geronimo plugin
within eclipse.   Is there any document on how to that, similar as the wiki
page for developing Geronimo?   I think this will be very useful for anyone
who wants to help out with the Geronimo plugin.

Thanks, 
 
Lin

-Original Message-
From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:12 PM
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

Just like you would hunt down a problem in G or any other project.   
Use the debugger.  Eclipse/WTP provides sdk distributions so all the  
source is available.  You can put breakpoints in the geronimo code to  
see the method call hierarchy in the debug view in Eclipse to get an  
understanding of who calls what.

Another common practice is to verify problems against other server  
adapters.  This would be a good indication that the bug is in WTP and  
not the implementation of a given adapter.  Then you can use the  
debugger to evaluate further.

- sachin



On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:33 PM, Lin Sun wrote:

 Hi Sachin,

 Thanks this information is very useful.  I am relatively new to the  
 plugin
 development... Could you shed some light on how to tell if a defect  
 is in
 WTP or Geronimo devtools?

 Thanks,

 Lin

 -Original Message-
 From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:24 AM
 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org; user@geronimo.apache.org
 Subject: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

 With the release of the Eclipse plugin, here are a list of helpful
 resources where WTP/Eclipse specific questions can be asked and where
 you'll be able to search for answers to many common questions.

 http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/index_project.php

 The newsgroup URL is news.eclipse.org and the WTP specific list is
 eclipse.webtools.

 The bug reporting tool for all Eclipse projects is https://
 bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/

 If you feel you find a defect in WTP that you feel affects the
 functionality of the Geronimo plugin, for tracking purposes open a
 Jira in Geronimo and link it to the bugzilla number.  This way the
 project is aware and thus can ensure that the defect gets added to
 the WTP adopter list and can take a higher priority.

 Thanks.

 - sachin






Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

2006-02-28 Thread Sachin Patel
Yes I can but it will be a while before I get to it.   Most of the  
information you really need is in Plugin Development Guide in the  
Eclipse Help and the tutorials on the Eclipse site which is full of  
information to get started.  But before anything, your best bet is to  
go though one of the tutorials on creating your first plugin to get  
familiar with the the plugin development environment and how the  
eclipse framework works.


See http://www.eclipse.org/articles/

- sachin



On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Lin Sun wrote:

I read your wiki page on how to develop Geronimo within eclipse  
which was
very helpful.  However, I haven't been able to debug the Geronimo  
plugin
within eclipse.   Is there any document on how to that, similar as  
the wiki
page for developing Geronimo?   I think this will be very useful  
for anyone

who wants to help out with the Geronimo plugin.

Thanks,

Lin

-Original Message-
From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:12 PM
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

Just like you would hunt down a problem in G or any other project.
Use the debugger.  Eclipse/WTP provides sdk distributions so all the
source is available.  You can put breakpoints in the geronimo code to
see the method call hierarchy in the debug view in Eclipse to get an
understanding of who calls what.

Another common practice is to verify problems against other server
adapters.  This would be a good indication that the bug is in WTP and
not the implementation of a given adapter.  Then you can use the
debugger to evaluate further.

- sachin



On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:33 PM, Lin Sun wrote:


Hi Sachin,

Thanks this information is very useful.  I am relatively new to the
plugin
development... Could you shed some light on how to tell if a defect
is in
WTP or Geronimo devtools?

Thanks,

Lin

-Original Message-
From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org; user@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

With the release of the Eclipse plugin, here are a list of helpful
resources where WTP/Eclipse specific questions can be asked and where
you'll be able to search for answers to many common questions.

http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/index_project.php

The newsgroup URL is news.eclipse.org and the WTP specific list is
eclipse.webtools.

The bug reporting tool for all Eclipse projects is https://
bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/

If you feel you find a defect in WTP that you feel affects the
functionality of the Geronimo plugin, for tracking purposes open a
Jira in Geronimo and link it to the bugzilla number.  This way the
project is aware and thus can ensure that the defect gets added to
the WTP adopter list and can take a higher priority.

Thanks.

- sachin









RE: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

2006-02-28 Thread Lin Sun
Thanks.  I am willing to help out the documentation once I figure out how to
do that myself.  I did go through a basic Hello plugin development tutorial
but I still have the following specific questions:

1) When I imported devtools project into Eclipse, I imported it as a plugin
development--plugin project.   Then I gave it a project name and pointed the
project contents to directory devtools\modules\eclipse-plugin.
Selected default of the rest and finished creating the project.   However, I
noticed the devtools\modules\eclipse-plugin\plugin.xml file is created,
which was not there before I imported the devtools project into Eclipse.

2) Also, I'd like to know what should I have on the java build path of the
project?  I tried to put everything I can think of -- WTP 1.0.1 SDK zip
file, Eclipse 3.1.2. zip file, but when I tried to right click on
GenericServerBehaviour (inside of GeronimoServerBehavior.java file) and
selected open call hierarchy I got a the resource is not on the build
path of a Java project error.   I also could not find the java API doc of
this file either.

Thanks again for your help! 
 
Lin

-Original Message-
From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:42 PM
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

Yes I can but it will be a while before I get to it.   Most of the  
information you really need is in Plugin Development Guide in the  
Eclipse Help and the tutorials on the Eclipse site which is full of  
information to get started.  But before anything, your best bet is to  
go though one of the tutorials on creating your first plugin to get  
familiar with the the plugin development environment and how the  
eclipse framework works.

See http://www.eclipse.org/articles/

- sachin



On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Lin Sun wrote:

 I read your wiki page on how to develop Geronimo within eclipse  
 which was
 very helpful.  However, I haven't been able to debug the Geronimo  
 plugin
 within eclipse.   Is there any document on how to that, similar as  
 the wiki
 page for developing Geronimo?   I think this will be very useful  
 for anyone
 who wants to help out with the Geronimo plugin.

 Thanks,

 Lin

 -Original Message-
 From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:12 PM
 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
 Subject: Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

 Just like you would hunt down a problem in G or any other project.
 Use the debugger.  Eclipse/WTP provides sdk distributions so all the
 source is available.  You can put breakpoints in the geronimo code to
 see the method call hierarchy in the debug view in Eclipse to get an
 understanding of who calls what.

 Another common practice is to verify problems against other server
 adapters.  This would be a good indication that the bug is in WTP and
 not the implementation of a given adapter.  Then you can use the
 debugger to evaluate further.

 - sachin



 On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:33 PM, Lin Sun wrote:

 Hi Sachin,

 Thanks this information is very useful.  I am relatively new to the
 plugin
 development... Could you shed some light on how to tell if a defect
 is in
 WTP or Geronimo devtools?

 Thanks,

 Lin

 -Original Message-
 From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:24 AM
 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org; user@geronimo.apache.org
 Subject: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

 With the release of the Eclipse plugin, here are a list of helpful
 resources where WTP/Eclipse specific questions can be asked and where
 you'll be able to search for answers to many common questions.

 http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/index_project.php

 The newsgroup URL is news.eclipse.org and the WTP specific list is
 eclipse.webtools.

 The bug reporting tool for all Eclipse projects is https://
 bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/

 If you feel you find a defect in WTP that you feel affects the
 functionality of the Geronimo plugin, for tracking purposes open a
 Jira in Geronimo and link it to the bugzilla number.  This way the
 project is aware and thus can ensure that the defect gets added to
 the WTP adopter list and can take a higher priority.

 Thanks.

 - sachin







Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

2006-02-27 Thread Jacek Laskowski
2006/2/27, Sachin Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 With the release of the Eclipse plugin, here are a list of helpful
 resources where WTP/Eclipse specific questions can be asked and where
 you'll be able to search for answers to many common questions.

Hi Sachin,

Could that be added to Devtools web site? I think many people aren't
as lucky as I am - having it in my archive ;)

Jacek

--
Jacek Laskowski
http://www.laskowski.org.pl


Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

2006-02-27 Thread Sachin Patel

Yep, will do.

- sachin



On Feb 27, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Jacek Laskowski wrote:


2006/2/27, Sachin Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

With the release of the Eclipse plugin, here are a list of helpful
resources where WTP/Eclipse specific questions can be asked and where
you'll be able to search for answers to many common questions.


Hi Sachin,

Could that be added to Devtools web site? I think many people aren't
as lucky as I am - having it in my archive ;)

Jacek

--
Jacek Laskowski
http://www.laskowski.org.pl




RE: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

2006-02-27 Thread Lin Sun
Hi Sachin,

Thanks this information is very useful.  I am relatively new to the plugin
development... Could you shed some light on how to tell if a defect is in
WTP or Geronimo devtools?   

Thanks, 
 
Lin

-Original Message-
From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org; user@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

With the release of the Eclipse plugin, here are a list of helpful  
resources where WTP/Eclipse specific questions can be asked and where  
you'll be able to search for answers to many common questions.

http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/index_project.php

The newsgroup URL is news.eclipse.org and the WTP specific list is  
eclipse.webtools.

The bug reporting tool for all Eclipse projects is https:// 
bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/

If you feel you find a defect in WTP that you feel affects the  
functionality of the Geronimo plugin, for tracking purposes open a  
Jira in Geronimo and link it to the bugzilla number.  This way the  
project is aware and thus can ensure that the defect gets added to  
the WTP adopter list and can take a higher priority.

Thanks.

- sachin





Re: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

2006-02-27 Thread Sachin Patel
Just like you would hunt down a problem in G or any other project.   
Use the debugger.  Eclipse/WTP provides sdk distributions so all the  
source is available.  You can put breakpoints in the geronimo code to  
see the method call hierarchy in the debug view in Eclipse to get an  
understanding of who calls what.


Another common practice is to verify problems against other server  
adapters.  This would be a good indication that the bug is in WTP and  
not the implementation of a given adapter.  Then you can use the  
debugger to evaluate further.


- sachin



On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:33 PM, Lin Sun wrote:


Hi Sachin,

Thanks this information is very useful.  I am relatively new to the  
plugin
development... Could you shed some light on how to tell if a defect  
is in

WTP or Geronimo devtools?

Thanks,

Lin

-Original Message-
From: Sachin Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org; user@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: WTP/Eclipse questions/defects

With the release of the Eclipse plugin, here are a list of helpful
resources where WTP/Eclipse specific questions can be asked and where
you'll be able to search for answers to many common questions.

http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/index_project.php

The newsgroup URL is news.eclipse.org and the WTP specific list is
eclipse.webtools.

The bug reporting tool for all Eclipse projects is https://
bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/

If you feel you find a defect in WTP that you feel affects the
functionality of the Geronimo plugin, for tracking purposes open a
Jira in Geronimo and link it to the bugzilla number.  This way the
project is aware and thus can ensure that the defect gets added to
the WTP adopter list and can take a higher priority.

Thanks.

- sachin