> William Rowe wrote...
>
> ...Ignoring for a moment the 9.13% of Apache servers that don't
> reveal their version whatsoever, ang ignorning rounding errors,
> 3.57% of the servers out there use some 2.0 version of Apache,
> so that 6% of Apache servers (identifying themselves)
> run 2.0 as opposed to another version.
Question for ya... using the same URI...
http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/sdata/
...your numbers are not out of line but I don't see how you
got all the way to 6 percent.
For ALL Servers ( Apache or otherwise )...
I get 3.6 pct. using some flavor of 2.x
and only 2.36 pct. of Secure Servers.
Within the subset 'Servers identified as Apache'...
I get 5.4 pct. for ALL Servers and 5.11 for Secure Servers
using any flavor of 2.x
[snip]
Report date: November 1, 2003
* ALL SERVERS
Total Servers found: 12,220,278
Total reporting themselves any flavor of "Apache": 7,979,368
Server Name Found Pct.
- --
Apache/2.0.40 181671 1.49
Apache/2.0.47 143631 1.18
Apache/2.0.46 030733 0.25
Apache/2.0.45 028823 0.24
Apache/2.0.44 018745 0.15
Apache/2.0.43 017849 0.15
Apache/2.0.39 008280 0.07
Apache/2.0.47 002450 0.02 * <- Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.47
Apache/2.0.42 002117 0.02
Apache/2.0.44 001859 0.02 * <- Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.44
Apache/2.0.36 001360 0.01
- --
437518 3.60
3.6 pct. of ALL Servers are using
any flavor of Apache 2.x.
5.4 pct. of all "Apache" servers found
are using any flavor of Apache 2.x.
* SECURE SERVERS
Total Secure Servers found: 154,477
Total reporting themselves any flavor of "Apache": 71,541
Server Name Found Pct.
- --
Apache/2.0.40 001627 1.05
Apache/2.0.47 000770 0.50
Apache/2.0.46 000306 0.20
Apache/2.0.43 000257 0.17
Apache/2.0.45 000248 0.16
Apache/2.0.44 000198 0.13
Apache/2.0.39 000161 0.10
Apache/2.0.47 51 0.03 * <- Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.47
Apache/2.0.42 22 0.01
Apache/2.0.44 17 0.01 * <- Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.44
- --
3657 2.36
2.36 pct. of ALL Secure Servers are using
any flavor of Apache 2.x.
5.11 pct. of all "Apache" Secure Servers found
are using any flavor of Apache 2.x.
[snip]
> Personally, I'm pleased by a 6% uptake in a software
> application that doesn't have to change till someone
> needs the new features, given that we continue
> to provide the security patches people need for their
> existing 1.3 infrastructure.
Well... then I wonder what the percentage of folks is
that have NEVER needed the 'new features' and what it
will take to EVER get them to upgrade if they haven't
already done so?
That's obviously ( after almost 2 years of waiting to
find out ) the majority of users, by far... and may remain
so until... ... forever ??? Don't know.
> Of course it will only grow higher if folks trust 2.0
> and can get their problems solved, which the current
> dialog in [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope will help address.
Got any comments back in the other thread about any of
the following 'suggestions'?
- Close 1.3 to ALL patches ( security included ) and
finally put the nails in the coffin lid.
- Re-open 1.3 for additions, changes, new things, since
it's obvious ( by now ) that the majority of Apache users don't
even need/want 2.x.
- Maintain active development on ALL versions of Apache.
Maybe the simple reason a lot of people haven't bothered to
go anywhere near Apache 2.0 is that they simply don't realize
that 1.3.x is 'dead man walking' as far as this devlist is concerned.
If they embrace that horror... maybe the 2.x numbers will JUMP
I don't know... an 'annoucement' or something that makes it
CLEAR to the average 1.3.x joe that he's now using
'obsolete/unsupported' software?
Yours...
Kevin Kiley
