Re: mod_wasm: Contributing Upstream to Apache

[Joe Schaefer]

Still, the idea is wicked cool if mod_wasm really can isolate the Python,
PHP, etc targets onto individual POSIX threads.

Very exciting stuff for HTTP/2 Webapps.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 4:31 AM Joe Schaefer  wrote:

> Looked at the PR- the IO is pretty primitive (no streaming anywhere).
> Probably not fatal for Webapps, but it could use some better relations with
> the filter stack and bucket brigades.
>
> Joe Schaefer, Ph.D
> 
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> *From:* Joe Schaefer 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2023 4:06:13 PM
> *To:* dev@httpd.apache.org 
> *Subject:* Re: mod_wasm: Contributing Upstream to Apache
>
> Would be great to marry it to apreq, too.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 4:04 PM Joe Schaefer  wrote:
>
> It is impossible to run mod_h2 without it or similar.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 3:37 PM Eric Covener  wrote:
>
> > We are still very interested in contributing this module upstream and
> helping to maintain it. Please, let us know what improvements or changes
> would be needed for it to be considered ready for inclusion.
>
> As a pessimistic PMC member not caring about WASM or these languages,
> I worry that marrying the lifecycle together is not advantageous for
> either side. Of course I worry about being stuck with the pieces when
> employer interest wanes or after turnover.  It does not seem like it's
> strictly necessary to be part of the server distribution (there are
> many examples of successful out-of-tree modules).
>
> However the above is no veto.
>
> --
Joe Schaefer, Ph.D.

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Re: mod_wasm: Contributing Upstream to Apache

[Joe Schaefer]

Looked at the PR- the IO is pretty primitive (no streaming anywhere).  Probably 
not fatal for Webapps, but it could use some better relations with the filter 
stack and bucket brigades.

Joe Schaefer, Ph.D

+1 (954) 253-3732
SunStar Systems, Inc.
Orion - The Enterprise Jamstack Wiki


From: Joe Schaefer 
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 4:06:13 PM
To: dev@httpd.apache.org 
Subject: Re: mod_wasm: Contributing Upstream to Apache

Would be great to marry it to apreq, too.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 4:04 PM Joe Schaefer 
mailto:j...@sunstarsys.com>> wrote:
It is impossible to run mod_h2 without it or similar.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 3:37 PM Eric Covener 
mailto:cove...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> We are still very interested in contributing this module upstream and helping 
> to maintain it. Please, let us know what improvements or changes would be 
> needed for it to be considered ready for inclusion.

As a pessimistic PMC member not caring about WASM or these languages,
I worry that marrying the lifecycle together is not advantageous for
either side. Of course I worry about being stuck with the pieces when
employer interest wanes or after turnover.  It does not seem like it's
strictly necessary to be part of the server distribution (there are
many examples of successful out-of-tree modules).

However the above is no veto.