Re: Add a [modules-dev] subject prefix?

2006-09-27 Thread Joachim Zobel
Am Dienstag, den 26.09.2006, 11:54 -0500 schrieb William A. Rowe, Jr.:
 So thoughts?  +/- to adding [modules-dev] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
 our
 subject headers?

- 

Sincerely,
Joachim





Add a [modules-dev] subject prefix?

2006-09-26 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
I received a note that some users would appreciate distinguishing
notes with a subject line.

Most lists in the ASF don't do this for many good reasons, but I noticed
that many of our peer-user lists (and modules-dev is a developement-users
discussion) do so.

So thoughts?  +/- to adding [modules-dev] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] to our
subject headers?


Re: Add a [modules-dev] subject prefix?

2006-09-26 Thread Konstantin Rozinov

I'm for adding [modules-dev] to the subject line.

At 09:54 AM 9/26/2006, you wrote:

I received a note that some users would appreciate distinguishing
notes with a subject line.

Most lists in the ASF don't do this for many good reasons, but I noticed
that many of our peer-user lists (and modules-dev is a developement-users
discussion) do so.

So thoughts?  +/- to adding [modules-dev] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] to our
subject headers?




Re: Add a [modules-dev] subject prefix?

2006-09-26 Thread Mads Toftum
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:54:32AM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
 Most lists in the ASF don't do this for many good reasons, but I noticed

which is why I'm -1 to polluting the subject - there's plenty of X-
headers to work on.

vh

Mads Toftum
-- 
`Darn it, who spiked my coffee with water?!' - lwall



Re: Add a [modules-dev] subject prefix?

2006-09-26 Thread Helmut Tessarek
 which is why I'm -1 to polluting the subject - there's plenty of X-
 headers to work on.

This would be ok, if you always work with one mail client at home.

Since there are certainly several people like me who are working with several
mail clients (tb at home, pine over ssh at work, webmail,...), it would be nice
to see at a first glance that a certain mail belongs to a certain list.

But I agree, the shorter the better. (although you should see to which module
list the mail belongs.)

Here my voting:

[modules-dev]   +   good, but you can't see the type of modules
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   -   too long
[httpd-mod-dev] ++

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Re: Add a [modules-dev] subject prefix?

2006-09-26 Thread pckizer

On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:54:32AM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Most lists in the ASF don't do this for many good reasons, but I  
noticed


On 2006, Sep 26, at 12:01, Mads Toftum wrote:

which is why I'm -1 to polluting the subject - there's plenty of X-
headers to work on.


I'm always a big fan of not modifying user-provided data (i.e.,  
Subject:) and making sure the plethora of tools (which I thought was  
close to 100% now-days) that can act on and display other headers (X- 
*, etc) are recommended.


A big - to any subject header adding/modifying.


-p



Re: Add a [modules-dev] subject prefix?

2006-09-26 Thread Chris Kukuchka

William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

So thoughts?  +/- to adding [modules-dev] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] to our
subject headers?
  
Count me as a plus (+) vote for adding to the subject headers.  Having 
the quick identifier makes it easier for low function mail clients (like 
web mail or cell-phone mail) to screen messages.


Chris Kukuchka
Sequoia Group, Inc.

P.S.  If the changing of the subject headers goes through, I would 
imagine we would then need a discussion on what it should be.  I would 
go with the shorter the better school of thought with [hmd] as an example.




Re: Add a [modules-dev] subject prefix?

2006-09-26 Thread Nick Kew
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 17:54, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

 So thoughts?  +/- to adding [modules-dev] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] to our
 subject headers?

Please don't.  Subject lines should be meaningful.  Especially in the
first few words, which is what you see when they're truncated in a
listing.  A folder full of [modules-dev] Re: pr is not useful.

I would suspect that anyone asking for crap in the subject line
needs to rtfm procmail, or whatever other tools they have available.
Sorting of incoming mail has been a solved problem for over 20 years.

-- 
Nick Kew

Application Development with Apache - the Apache Modules Book
http://www.prenhallprofessional.com/title/0132409674


Re: Add a [modules-dev] subject prefix?

2006-09-26 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Nick Kew wrote:
 
 I would suspect that anyone asking for crap in the subject line
 needs to rtfm procmail, or whatever other tools they have available.
 Sorting of incoming mail has been a solved problem for over 20 years.

I agree with you, up until the introduction of webmail.

Since this list is ment to be accessible, I'm weighing slightly more
heavily in favor of the user-subscribers over the diehard coding nutjobs
like you and I.  We have tools that force lists to behave the way we
prefer because we live on the lists.  Our casual readers, not so much.

If we are trying to be inclusive and attract more module authors (and
hopefully httpd contributors down the road) we need to be approachable.

That said, I'll sit back and read how this thread plays out.

Bill