Re: Apache logging
On Monday 13 September 2010, Sergio Junqueira wrote: Do you need the first entry to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash or is there a different reason? Mod_log_forensics writes the log record as soon as it is received. Mod_log_config writes the log record after the response is available. I don´t want to miss information about any request. Its important to identify all incoming requests, no matter if they fail or succeed. I would like to trace them having a small log record from the incoming requests. Useful to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash, as you mentioned, and to have 100% guarantee that all incoming requests were logged before Apache started processing it. Does mod_log_config always writes a log record for all incoming requests, no matter where or when they failed in the processing chain? If this is the case, mod_log_config provides the %D format to determine when the incoming request was received and it seems the current mod_log_config record would provide the information I need. No, if a child crashes, there is only an entry in the error log about the crash but no details about the requests in progress. Mod_log_forensics would be an easier way to get those than mod_whatkilledus (which requires recompiling with --enable-exception- hook IIRC). Sergio, it would be nice if you could file an enhancement request in bugzilla, so that this idea is not lost. Cheers, Stefan
Re: Apache logging
- Sergio Junqueira sjjrb...@yahoo.com wrote: Do you need the first entry to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash or is there a different reason? Mod_log_forensics writes the log record as soon as it is received. Mod_log_config writes the log record after the response is available. I don´t want to miss information about any request. Its important to identify all incoming requests, no matter if they fail or succeed. I would like to trace them having a small log record from the incoming requests. Useful to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash, as you mentioned, and to have 100% guarantee that all incoming requests were logged before Apache started processing it. Have you already exhausted other methods such as mod_whatkilledus? bye, i -- Igor Galić Tel: +43 (0) 664 886 22 883 Mail: i.ga...@brainsware.org URL: http://brainsware.org/
Re: Apache logging
Have you already exhausted other methods such as mod_whatkilledus? Not yet. I didn't know about it. But my main concern now is to account for all incoming requests, no matter if they fail. I need to identify every request received by Apache, when it was received, when and if a response was sent or if the request failed. Thanks, From: Igor Galić @brainsware.org To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 3:51:47 AM Subject: Re: Apache logging - Sergio Junqueira @yahoo.com wrote: Do you need the first entry to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash or is there a different reason? Mod_log_forensics writes the log record as soon as it is received. Mod_log_config writes the log record after the response is available. I don´t want to miss information about any request. Its important to identify all incoming requests, no matter if they fail or succeed. I would like to trace them having a small log record from the incoming requests. Useful to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash, as you mentioned, and to have 100% guarantee that all incoming requests were logged before Apache started processing it. Have you already exhausted other methods such as mod_whatkilledus? bye, i -- Igor Galić Tel: +43 (0) 664 886 22 883 Mail: i.ga...@brainsware.org URL: http://brainsware.org/
Re: Apache logging
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Sergio Junqueira wrote: I have a suggestion for the developers of Apache related to mod_log_config or mod_log_forensics: 1) To allow mod_log_config to write the log file with a first log entry with basic information about the request before it's processed further (that is, after receiving the headers). The second log entry (the current logging format) would be written after the request processing. A log ID, just like the forensic ID, should be available on both entries. 2)- Or to allow mod_log_forensic to be configured not to write all headers to disk. For instance, we should be able to configure it just like we do with LogFormat on mod_log_config. Or at least allow us to choose to write just the 1st request line, without all the headers. I think 2) would be a reasonable feature request for mod_log_forensic and would be easy to implement. However, I am interested about your actual use case. Do you need the first entry to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash or is there a different reason? If you are generally interested in better logging in httpd, you may want to read and possibly comment about some new features in 2.3/2.4: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/core.html#errorlogformat http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/core.html#loglevel Cheers, Stefan
Re: Apache logging
Do you need the first entry to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash or is there a different reason? Mod_log_forensics writes the log record as soon as it is received. Mod_log_config writes the log record after the response is available. I don´t want to miss information about any request. Its important to identify all incoming requests, no matter if they fail or succeed. I would like to trace them having a small log record from the incoming requests. Useful to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash, as you mentioned, and to have 100% guarantee that all incoming requests were logged before Apache started processing it. Does mod_log_config always writes a log record for all incoming requests, no matter where or when they failed in the processing chain? If this is the case, mod_log_config provides the %D format to determine when the incoming request was received and it seems the current mod_log_config record would provide the information I need. Thanks, Sergio. From: Stefan Fritsch @sfritsch.de To: Sergio Junqueira @yahoo.com Cc: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 7:18:07 AM Subject: Re: Apache logging On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Sergio Junqueira wrote: I have a suggestion for the developers of Apache related to mod_log_config or mod_log_forensics: 1) To allow mod_log_config to write the log file with a first log entry with basic information about the request before it's processed further (that is, after receiving the headers). The second log entry (the current logging format) would be written after the request processing. A log ID, just like the forensic ID, should be available on both entries. 2)- Or to allow mod_log_forensic to be configured not to write all headers to disk. For instance, we should be able to configure it just like we do with LogFormat on mod_log_config. Or at least allow us to choose to write just the 1st request line, without all the headers. I think 2) would be a reasonable feature request for mod_log_forensic and would be easy to implement. However, I am interested about your actual use case. Do you need the first entry to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash or is there a different reason? If you are generally interested in better logging in httpd, you may want to read and possibly comment about some new features in 2.3/2.4: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/core.html#errorlogformat http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/core.html#loglevel Cheers, Stefan
RE: Apache logging
I'm not sure it is related, but I'd like to know the most efficient way to debug error_log entries such as the following. In the first case, I presume that the referrer was absent or was unable to be read. Ideally a conditional forensics log (i.e. only on error response codes) would probably do it, but I don't think that's possible, right? Thanks, David [Mon Sep 13 04:12:25 2010] [error] [client 71.225.73.189] request failed: error reading the headers [Mon Sep 13 04:25:22 2010] [error] [client 210.204.226.18] request failed: error reading the headers, referer: http://foo.com?dtm_com=28dtm_cmagic=d3b1fbdtm_fid=101dtm_format=5cli_pro mo_id=1dtmc_ver=3dtm_cid=2366dtmc_u2=/categorydtmc_u3=26047dtmc_u4=null dtmc_u5=nulldtmc_u9=gp%253Abrowse%253Ababy%253AToddler%2520Girl%2520%25281 -5%2520yrs%2529%253ASale%253ASweatersdtmc_u10=http%253A//blah.com/browse/ca tegory.do%253Fcid%253D26047dtmc_transaction_id=1%3Fdtmc_type=090dtmc_cat= 037dtmc_ref=http%3A//blah.com/browse/category.do%3Fcid%3D26047dtmc_url=htt p%3A//fls.doubleclick.net/activityi%3Bsrc%3D2840522%3Btype%3D090%3Bcat%3D037 %3Bqty%3D1%3Btran%3Dnull%3Bu%3DUSD%3Bu2%3D/category%3Bu3%3D26047%3Bu4%3Dnull %3Bu5%3Dnull%3Bu9%3Dgp%253Abrowse%253A%253AToddler%2520Girl%2520%25281-5%252 0yrs%2529%253ASale%253ASweaters%3Bu10%3Dhttp%253A//blah.com/browse/category. do%253Fcid%253D26047%3Bord%3D1%3F From: Sergio Junqueira Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:35 PM To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache logging Do you need the first entry to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash or is there a different reason? Mod_log_forensics writes the log record as soon as it is received. Mod_log_config writes the log record after the response is available. I don´t want to miss information about any request. Its important to identify all incoming requests, no matter if they fail or succeed. I would like to trace them having a small log record from the incoming requests. Useful to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash, as you mentioned, and to have 100% guarantee that all incoming requests were logged before Apache started processing it. Does mod_log_config always writes a log record for all incoming requests, no matter where or when they failed in the processing chain? If this is the case, mod_log_config provides the %D format to determine when the incoming request was received and it seems the current mod_log_config record would provide the information I need. Thanks, Sergio. Cc: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 7:18:07 AM Subject: Re: Apache logging On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Sergio Junqueira wrote: I have a suggestion for the developers of Apache related to mod_log_config or mod_log_forensics: 1) To allow mod_log_config to write the log file with a first log entry with basic information about the request before it's processed further (that is, after receiving the headers). The second log entry (the current logging format) would be written after the request processing. A log ID, just like the forensic ID, should be available on both entries. 2)- Or to allow mod_log_forensic to be configured not to write all headers to disk. For instance, we should be able to configure it just like we do with LogFormat on mod_log_config. Or at least allow us to choose to write just the 1st request line, without all the headers. I think 2) would be a reasonable feature request for mod_log_forensic and would be easy to implement. However, I am interested about your actual use case. Do you need the first entry to determine which request may have caused httpd to crash or is there a different reason? If you are generally interested in better logging in httpd, you may want to read and possibly comment about some new features in 2.3/2.4: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/core.html#errorlogformat http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/core.html#loglevel Cheers, Stefan
Apache logging
I have a suggestion for the developers of Apache related to mod_log_config or mod_log_forensics: 1) To allow mod_log_config to write the log file with a first log entry with basic information about the request before it's processed further (that is, after receiving the headers). The second log entry (the current logging format) would be written after the request processing. A log ID, just like the forensic ID, should be available on both entries. 2)- Or to allow mod_log_forensic to be configured not to write all headers to disk. For instance, we should be able to configure it just like we do with LogFormat on mod_log_config. Or at least allow us to choose to write just the 1st request line, without all the headers. Thanks.
Re: Apache logging in prev?
2009/4/15 Michele Waldman mmwald...@nyc.rr.com: ./server/util_script.c apr_table_addn(e, REMOTE_USER, r-user); apr_table_addn(e, REDIRECT_REMOTE_USER, back-user); I could this. Is this the right place? That's for ENVs, but not the place where a module reads and sets the user to r-user. r-user is set this way in mod_auth_digest: r-user = (char *) resp-username; resp-username is a result of parsing the HTTP request headers: if (!strcasecmp(key, username)) resp-username = apr_pstrdup(r-pool, value); Bob
Apache logging in prev?
In auth_mod_digest, it looks for previous authentication: while (mainreq-prev != NULL) { mainreq = mainreq-prev; } I'm trying to prevent this in certain cases to allow a new login. If I stop this statement, it uses the new creditials to validate, but this user is not being logged in. Does anyone know where the code that actually sets the remote user, etc is? I think it may have the prev loop there, too. I'm not sure but I'd like to take a look. Thanks, Michele
RE: Apache logging in prev?
./server/util_script.c apr_table_addn(e, REMOTE_USER, r-user); apr_table_addn(e, REDIRECT_REMOTE_USER, back-user); I could this. Is this the right place? Michele -Original Message- From: Michele Waldman [mailto:mmwald...@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:13 PM To: modules-dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Apache logging in prev? In auth_mod_digest, it looks for previous authentication: while (mainreq-prev != NULL) { mainreq = mainreq-prev; } I'm trying to prevent this in certain cases to allow a new login. If I stop this statement, it uses the new creditials to validate, but this user is not being logged in. Does anyone know where the code that actually sets the remote user, etc is? I think it may have the prev loop there, too. I'm not sure but I'd like to take a look. Thanks, Michele