Re: http workshop

2019-02-15 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 2:36 PM Mark Thomas  wrote:

> On 14/02/2019 19:52, William A Rowe Jr wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 9:22 AM Stefan Eissing <
> stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de>
> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> >> The HTTP WS organisers expressed the wish to have someone from "Apache"
> >> present. Anyone interested? Could also be someone from another HTTP
> related
> >> Apache project, of course.
>
> It appears that the deadline to submit a statement of interest in
> attending was a month ago.
>
> Has it been extended?
>

I understand they are at capacity, so anyone applying to attend would be
waitlisted.


Re: http workshop

2019-02-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/02/2019 19:52, William A Rowe Jr wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 9:22 AM Stefan Eissing 
> wrote:



>> The HTTP WS organisers expressed the wish to have someone from "Apache"
>> present. Anyone interested? Could also be someone from another HTTP related
>> Apache project, of course.

It appears that the deadline to submit a statement of interest in
attending was a month ago.

Has it been extended?

Mark


Re: http workshop

2019-02-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 9:22 AM Stefan Eissing 
wrote:

> The HTTP Workshop is returning 2019 on April 2-4 in Amsterdam (
> https://github.com/httpworkshop/workshop2019). While I attended the last
> three shops(?), I think it would be a good opportunity for someone else
> from the team to go there and meet some smart and friendly people from the
> HTTP world.
>

I found Daniel's blogs on the last (2017) meetup very helpful for context;
https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2017/06/12/http-workshop-london-edition-first-day/
https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2017/06/13/http-workshop-s03e02/

It seems there is little retrospective of HTTP/1.1, while
challenges/footnotes to h2 and tls1.3 will be discussed, and waka (would be
good to hear an update from Roy on this) and quik seem to still be the
primary topics of the day. So someone interested in writing the HTTP/3
implementation for httpd would be the obvious choice of delegate. (Hoping
Roy already plans to attend.)

One issue that has reared its ugly head again and again for us is URL
conformance and ambiguity, and especially early decoding of % escapes (and
non-normative %U escapes that may try to pass through proxies.) Since there
was discussion of completely refactoring URL encoding/decoding patterns in
httpd 3.0, someone interested in proceeding on that work would make a
helpful workshop liason.

Another issue of interest is bidirectional and push content, which the
httpd core largely ignores but could better support. Although that's
probably off in the weeds for browser and middle-tier folks. The usefulness
of 100-Continue through proxies and mis-interpretations of the spec on this
might be interesting conversation.

The HTTP WS organisers expressed the wish to have someone from "Apache"
> present. Anyone interested? Could also be someone from another HTTP related
> Apache project, of course.
>

It seems TrafficServer is already in the loop, as Leif attended last time.
Tomcat is an obvious gap, cc'ed.

Also seems that Tatsuhiro is in the loop, having attended in 2016 and being
key to httpd's support of h2 protocol.

It might be that the HTTP/3 .. quik implementation, if httpd gains one,
ultimately looks like mod_h2, a layer over another's implementation.


Re: http workshop

2019-01-28 Thread James Dwyer
Sure, send me more details please. Amsterdam has always been on the to-do list.

Warmest regards,
James E. Dwyer

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 9:52 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>
> i could present
>
> > On Jan 28, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Stefan Eissing  
> > wrote:
> >
> > The HTTP Workshop is returning 2019 on April 2-4 in Amsterdam 
> > (https://github.com/httpworkshop/workshop2019). While I attended the last 
> > three shops(?), I think it would be a good opportunity for someone else 
> > from the team to go there and meet some smart and friendly people from the 
> > HTTP world.
> >
> > The HTTP WS organisers expressed the wish to have someone from "Apache" 
> > present. Anyone interested? Could also be someone from another HTTP related 
> > Apache project, of course.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Stefan
>


Re: http workshop

2019-01-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
i could present

> On Jan 28, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Stefan Eissing  
> wrote:
> 
> The HTTP Workshop is returning 2019 on April 2-4 in Amsterdam 
> (https://github.com/httpworkshop/workshop2019). While I attended the last 
> three shops(?), I think it would be a good opportunity for someone else from 
> the team to go there and meet some smart and friendly people from the HTTP 
> world.
> 
> The HTTP WS organisers expressed the wish to have someone from "Apache" 
> present. Anyone interested? Could also be someone from another HTTP related 
> Apache project, of course.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stefan



http workshop

2019-01-28 Thread Stefan Eissing
The HTTP Workshop is returning 2019 on April 2-4 in Amsterdam 
(https://github.com/httpworkshop/workshop2019). While I attended the last three 
shops(?), I think it would be a good opportunity for someone else from the team 
to go there and meet some smart and friendly people from the HTTP world.

The HTTP WS organisers expressed the wish to have someone from "Apache" 
present. Anyone interested? Could also be someone from another HTTP related 
Apache project, of course.

Cheers,

Stefan