Re: mod_fcgid in httpd tarball?

2011-03-27 Thread Jim Jagielski

On Mar 23, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Jeff Trawick wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Mark Montague m...@catseye.org wrote:
  On March 23, 2011 7:37 , Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm  wrote:
 
 Do we want to introduce mod_fcgid now into httpd 2.3.x for the next beta?
 
 How do we reconcile mod_fcgid with mod_proxy_fcgid?
 
 Do they need to be reconciled?  Each currently has strengths the other
 lacks.
 
 That's how they are reconciled ;)
 
 * mod_proxy_fcgi ONLY routes to separately managed application processes.
 * mod_fcgid ONLY routes to application processes it manages.
 

Yeppers. mod_proxy_fcgi simply adds the FCGI protocol to mod_proxy
(and mod_proxy_balancer). mod_fcgid is an FastCGI application
manager.

Re: mod_fcgid in httpd tarball?

2011-03-23 Thread Graham Leggett

On 19 Mar 2011, at 12:07 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:


It seems like mod_fcgid has made huge progress and is now in a much
more stable bugfix epoch of it's life, similar to how mod_proxy had
progressed when development was kicked out of core for major http/1.1
rework, and brought back in when a vast percentage of it's bugs had
been addressed.

Do we want to introduce mod_fcgid now into httpd 2.3.x for the next  
beta?


How do we reconcile mod_fcgid with mod_proxy_fcgid?

Regards,
Graham
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Re: mod_fcgid in httpd tarball?

2011-03-23 Thread Mark Montague

 On March 23, 2011 7:37 , Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm  wrote:
Do we want to introduce mod_fcgid now into httpd 2.3.x for the next 
beta?


How do we reconcile mod_fcgid with mod_proxy_fcgid?


Do they need to be reconciled?  Each currently has strengths the other 
lacks.  I'd be fine with having both in future httpd 2.3.x betas and 
2.4, at least until one clearly becomes redundant compared to the other.


--
  Mark Montague
  m...@catseye.org



Re: mod_fcgid in httpd tarball?

2011-03-23 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/23/2011 6:37 AM, Graham Leggett wrote:
 On 19 Mar 2011, at 12:07 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
 
 It seems like mod_fcgid has made huge progress and is now in a much
 more stable bugfix epoch of it's life, similar to how mod_proxy had
 progressed when development was kicked out of core for major http/1.1
 rework, and brought back in when a vast percentage of it's bugs had
 been addressed.

 Do we want to introduce mod_fcgid now into httpd 2.3.x for the next beta?
 
 How do we reconcile mod_fcgid with mod_proxy_fcgid?

We clarify the docs if they are misaligned.

AIUI, mod_proxy_fcgid does not perform process control, while mod_fcgid
follows the processing spawning example of mod_cgi, mod_cgid etc.


Re: mod_fcgid in httpd tarball?

2011-03-23 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Mark Montague m...@catseye.org wrote:
  On March 23, 2011 7:37 , Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm  wrote:

 Do we want to introduce mod_fcgid now into httpd 2.3.x for the next beta?

 How do we reconcile mod_fcgid with mod_proxy_fcgid?

 Do they need to be reconciled?  Each currently has strengths the other
 lacks.

That's how they are reconciled ;)

* mod_proxy_fcgi ONLY routes to separately managed application processes.
* mod_fcgid ONLY routes to application processes it manages.


Re: mod_fcgid in httpd tarball?

2011-03-21 Thread Jim Jagielski

On Mar 18, 2011, at 6:07 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

 It seems like mod_fcgid has made huge progress and is now in a much
 more stable bugfix epoch of it's life, similar to how mod_proxy had
 progressed when development was kicked out of core for major http/1.1
 rework, and brought back in when a vast percentage of it's bugs had
 been addressed.
 
 Do we want to introduce mod_fcgid now into httpd 2.3.x for the next beta?
 

I'd support that, yeah.


Re: mod_fcgid in httpd tarball?

2011-03-19 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:07 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
 It seems like mod_fcgid has made huge progress and is now in a much
 more stable bugfix epoch of it's life, similar to how mod_proxy had
 progressed when development was kicked out of core for major http/1.1
 rework, and brought back in when a vast percentage of it's bugs had
 been addressed.

 Do we want to introduce mod_fcgid now into httpd 2.3.x for the next beta?

I'm thinking about it :)

(I think some process management changes (including directives) should
be changed before the next fcgid bump (e.g., fcgid 2.4.x or httpd
2.4.x if bundled).  Are there cycles to do that in the short term?
Are the changes really important?)


Re: mod_fcgid in httpd tarball?

2011-03-19 Thread Mario Brandt
I really like to see this included in 2.3.x For me it runs great since
ages on Windows[1] and Linux.

Mario


[1] expect of Bug 50309 (patch included)


mod_fcgid in httpd tarball?

2011-03-18 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
It seems like mod_fcgid has made huge progress and is now in a much
more stable bugfix epoch of it's life, similar to how mod_proxy had
progressed when development was kicked out of core for major http/1.1
rework, and brought back in when a vast percentage of it's bugs had
been addressed.

Do we want to introduce mod_fcgid now into httpd 2.3.x for the next beta?


Re: mod_fcgid in httpd tarball?

2011-03-18 Thread Mark Montague
 On March 18, 2011 18:07 , William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net 
wrote:

It seems like mod_fcgid has made huge progress and is now in a much
more stable bugfix epoch of it's life, similar to how mod_proxy had
progressed when development was kicked out of core for major http/1.1
rework, and brought back in when a vast percentage of it's bugs had
been addressed.

Do we want to introduce mod_fcgid now into httpd 2.3.x for the next beta?


For what it's worth, on the systems I'm deploying, I'm using 
mod_proxy_fcgi and putting in as much effort as necessary to fix any 
bugs, add features I need to it, etc., simply because mod_proxy_fcgi is 
a core module, while mod_fcgid is not.  If mod_fcgid were in core, I may 
have wound up putting the effort there instead.  (I say may have 
because I've come to think that mod_proxy_fcgi is actually a better 
choice for my particular needs, anyway).


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  Mark Montague
  m...@catseye.org