Re: [DISCUSS] Rename iceberg-hive module?

2020-08-20 Thread Ryan Blue
Sounds unanimous. Thanks, everyone!

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:10 AM John Zhuge  wrote:

> +1 for the rename
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 7:22 AM Junjie Chen 
> wrote:
>
>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`, also +1 to have a new module to contain
>> the `iceberg-mr`.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 8:13 PM Saisai Shao 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for the changes.
>>>
>>> Mass Dosage  于2020年8月20日周四 下午5:46写道:
>>>
 +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore` as I found this confusing when I first
 started working with the code.

 On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 03:27, Jungtaek Lim <
 kabhwan.opensou...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore` and also +1 for RD's proposal.
>
> Thanks,
> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:20 AM Jingsong Li 
> wrote:
>
>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`
>>
>> I'm confused about `iceberg-hive` and `iceberg-mr`.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jingsong
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:48 AM Dongjoon Hyun <
>> dongjoon.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`.
>>>
>>> Maybe, is `Apache Iceberg 1.0.0` a good candidate to have that
>>> breaking change?
>>>
>>> Bests,
>>> Dongjoon.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 6:35 PM RD  wrote:
>>>
 I'm +1 for this rename.  I think we should keep the iceberg-mr
 module as is and maybe add a new module iceberg-hive-exec [not sure if 
 it
 is a good idea to salvage iceberg-hive for this purpose] which contains
 hive specific StorageHandler, Serde and IcebergHivInputFormat classes.

 -R

 On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:06 PM Ryan Blue  wrote:

> In the discussion this morning, we talked about what to name the
> runtime module we want to add for Hive, iceberg-hive-runtime.
> Unfortunately, iceberg-hive is the Hive _metastore_ module, so it is 
> a bit
> misleading to name the Hive runtime module iceberg-hive-runtime. It 
> was
> also pointed out that the iceberg-hive module is confusing for other
> reasons: someone unfamiliar with it would expect to use it to work 
> with
> Hive, but it has no InputFormat or StorageHandler classes.
>
> Both problems are a result of a poor name for iceberg-hive. Maybe
> we should rename iceberg-hive to iceberg-hive-metastore.
>
> The drawback is that a module people could use will disappear (I'm
> assuming we won't rename iceberg-mr to iceberg-hive right away). But 
> most
> people probably use a runtime Jar, so it might be a good time to make 
> this
> change before there are more people depending on it.
>
> What does everyone think? Should we do the rename?
>
> rb
>
> --
> Ryan Blue
>

>>
>> --
>> Best, Jingsong Lee
>>
>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards
>>
>
>
> --
> John Zhuge
>


-- 
Ryan Blue
Software Engineer
Netflix


Re: [DISCUSS] Rename iceberg-hive module?

2020-08-20 Thread John Zhuge
+1 for the rename

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 7:22 AM Junjie Chen 
wrote:

> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`, also +1 to have a new module to contain
> the `iceberg-mr`.
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 8:13 PM Saisai Shao 
> wrote:
>
>> +1 for the changes.
>>
>> Mass Dosage  于2020年8月20日周四 下午5:46写道:
>>
>>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore` as I found this confusing when I first
>>> started working with the code.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 03:27, Jungtaek Lim 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore` and also +1 for RD's proposal.

 Thanks,
 Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)



 On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:20 AM Jingsong Li 
 wrote:

> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`
>
> I'm confused about `iceberg-hive` and `iceberg-mr`.
>
> Best,
> Jingsong
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:48 AM Dongjoon Hyun 
> wrote:
>
>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`.
>>
>> Maybe, is `Apache Iceberg 1.0.0` a good candidate to have that
>> breaking change?
>>
>> Bests,
>> Dongjoon.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 6:35 PM RD  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm +1 for this rename.  I think we should keep the iceberg-mr
>>> module as is and maybe add a new module iceberg-hive-exec [not sure if 
>>> it
>>> is a good idea to salvage iceberg-hive for this purpose] which contains
>>> hive specific StorageHandler, Serde and IcebergHivInputFormat classes.
>>>
>>> -R
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:06 PM Ryan Blue  wrote:
>>>
 In the discussion this morning, we talked about what to name the
 runtime module we want to add for Hive, iceberg-hive-runtime.
 Unfortunately, iceberg-hive is the Hive _metastore_ module, so it is a 
 bit
 misleading to name the Hive runtime module iceberg-hive-runtime. It was
 also pointed out that the iceberg-hive module is confusing for other
 reasons: someone unfamiliar with it would expect to use it to work with
 Hive, but it has no InputFormat or StorageHandler classes.

 Both problems are a result of a poor name for iceberg-hive. Maybe
 we should rename iceberg-hive to iceberg-hive-metastore.

 The drawback is that a module people could use will disappear (I'm
 assuming we won't rename iceberg-mr to iceberg-hive right away). But 
 most
 people probably use a runtime Jar, so it might be a good time to make 
 this
 change before there are more people depending on it.

 What does everyone think? Should we do the rename?

 rb

 --
 Ryan Blue

>>>
>
> --
> Best, Jingsong Lee
>

>
> --
> Best Regards
>


-- 
John Zhuge


Re: [DISCUSS] Rename iceberg-hive module?

2020-08-20 Thread Junjie Chen
+1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`, also +1 to have a new module to contain
the `iceberg-mr`.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 8:13 PM Saisai Shao  wrote:

> +1 for the changes.
>
> Mass Dosage  于2020年8月20日周四 下午5:46写道:
>
>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore` as I found this confusing when I first
>> started working with the code.
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 03:27, Jungtaek Lim 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore` and also +1 for RD's proposal.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:20 AM Jingsong Li 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`

 I'm confused about `iceberg-hive` and `iceberg-mr`.

 Best,
 Jingsong

 On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:48 AM Dongjoon Hyun 
 wrote:

> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`.
>
> Maybe, is `Apache Iceberg 1.0.0` a good candidate to have that
> breaking change?
>
> Bests,
> Dongjoon.
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 6:35 PM RD  wrote:
>
>> I'm +1 for this rename.  I think we should keep the iceberg-mr module
>> as is and maybe add a new module iceberg-hive-exec [not sure if it is a
>> good idea to salvage iceberg-hive for this purpose] which contains hive
>> specific StorageHandler, Serde and IcebergHivInputFormat classes.
>>
>> -R
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:06 PM Ryan Blue  wrote:
>>
>>> In the discussion this morning, we talked about what to name the
>>> runtime module we want to add for Hive, iceberg-hive-runtime.
>>> Unfortunately, iceberg-hive is the Hive _metastore_ module, so it is a 
>>> bit
>>> misleading to name the Hive runtime module iceberg-hive-runtime. It was
>>> also pointed out that the iceberg-hive module is confusing for other
>>> reasons: someone unfamiliar with it would expect to use it to work with
>>> Hive, but it has no InputFormat or StorageHandler classes.
>>>
>>> Both problems are a result of a poor name for iceberg-hive. Maybe we
>>> should rename iceberg-hive to iceberg-hive-metastore.
>>>
>>> The drawback is that a module people could use will disappear (I'm
>>> assuming we won't rename iceberg-mr to iceberg-hive right away). But 
>>> most
>>> people probably use a runtime Jar, so it might be a good time to make 
>>> this
>>> change before there are more people depending on it.
>>>
>>> What does everyone think? Should we do the rename?
>>>
>>> rb
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ryan Blue
>>>
>>

 --
 Best, Jingsong Lee

>>>

-- 
Best Regards


Re: [DISCUSS] Rename iceberg-hive module?

2020-08-20 Thread Saisai Shao
+1 for the changes.

Mass Dosage  于2020年8月20日周四 下午5:46写道:

> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore` as I found this confusing when I first
> started working with the code.
>
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 03:27, Jungtaek Lim 
> wrote:
>
>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore` and also +1 for RD's proposal.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:20 AM Jingsong Li 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`
>>>
>>> I'm confused about `iceberg-hive` and `iceberg-mr`.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jingsong
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:48 AM Dongjoon Hyun 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`.

 Maybe, is `Apache Iceberg 1.0.0` a good candidate to have that breaking
 change?

 Bests,
 Dongjoon.

 On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 6:35 PM RD  wrote:

> I'm +1 for this rename.  I think we should keep the iceberg-mr module
> as is and maybe add a new module iceberg-hive-exec [not sure if it is a
> good idea to salvage iceberg-hive for this purpose] which contains hive
> specific StorageHandler, Serde and IcebergHivInputFormat classes.
>
> -R
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:06 PM Ryan Blue  wrote:
>
>> In the discussion this morning, we talked about what to name the
>> runtime module we want to add for Hive, iceberg-hive-runtime.
>> Unfortunately, iceberg-hive is the Hive _metastore_ module, so it is a 
>> bit
>> misleading to name the Hive runtime module iceberg-hive-runtime. It was
>> also pointed out that the iceberg-hive module is confusing for other
>> reasons: someone unfamiliar with it would expect to use it to work with
>> Hive, but it has no InputFormat or StorageHandler classes.
>>
>> Both problems are a result of a poor name for iceberg-hive. Maybe we
>> should rename iceberg-hive to iceberg-hive-metastore.
>>
>> The drawback is that a module people could use will disappear (I'm
>> assuming we won't rename iceberg-mr to iceberg-hive right away). But most
>> people probably use a runtime Jar, so it might be a good time to make 
>> this
>> change before there are more people depending on it.
>>
>> What does everyone think? Should we do the rename?
>>
>> rb
>>
>> --
>> Ryan Blue
>>
>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best, Jingsong Lee
>>>
>>


Re: [DISCUSS] Rename iceberg-hive module?

2020-08-20 Thread Mass Dosage
+1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore` as I found this confusing when I first
started working with the code.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 03:27, Jungtaek Lim 
wrote:

> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore` and also +1 for RD's proposal.
>
> Thanks,
> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:20 AM Jingsong Li 
> wrote:
>
>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`
>>
>> I'm confused about `iceberg-hive` and `iceberg-mr`.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jingsong
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:48 AM Dongjoon Hyun 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for `iceberg-hive-metastore`.
>>>
>>> Maybe, is `Apache Iceberg 1.0.0` a good candidate to have that breaking
>>> change?
>>>
>>> Bests,
>>> Dongjoon.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 6:35 PM RD  wrote:
>>>
 I'm +1 for this rename.  I think we should keep the iceberg-mr module
 as is and maybe add a new module iceberg-hive-exec [not sure if it is a
 good idea to salvage iceberg-hive for this purpose] which contains hive
 specific StorageHandler, Serde and IcebergHivInputFormat classes.

 -R

 On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:06 PM Ryan Blue  wrote:

> In the discussion this morning, we talked about what to name the
> runtime module we want to add for Hive, iceberg-hive-runtime.
> Unfortunately, iceberg-hive is the Hive _metastore_ module, so it is a bit
> misleading to name the Hive runtime module iceberg-hive-runtime. It was
> also pointed out that the iceberg-hive module is confusing for other
> reasons: someone unfamiliar with it would expect to use it to work with
> Hive, but it has no InputFormat or StorageHandler classes.
>
> Both problems are a result of a poor name for iceberg-hive. Maybe we
> should rename iceberg-hive to iceberg-hive-metastore.
>
> The drawback is that a module people could use will disappear (I'm
> assuming we won't rename iceberg-mr to iceberg-hive right away). But most
> people probably use a runtime Jar, so it might be a good time to make this
> change before there are more people depending on it.
>
> What does everyone think? Should we do the rename?
>
> rb
>
> --
> Ryan Blue
>

>>
>> --
>> Best, Jingsong Lee
>>
>