Re: Pushing IGNITE-6826 forward
Why can't we use a combination of both, VM and Multicast IP finders? D. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Stanislav Lukyanov wrote: > Yakov, > > First, it doesn’t seem likely that many people would run examples on > several machines. Even if someone would, they’d probably start doing so > after some experimentation with a single host – at the moment when they’re > already adjusted enough to check and edit some configs. > > Second, I don’t think that this use case outweighs the troubles new (and > even experienced) users get because of the multicast. > Even if it helps some users to get started in their first 30 minutes with > Ignite, it will just as well confuse them later and leave a feeling of > unstable product. > > Showing a warning with default settings is confusing – a user didn’t do > anything wrong, and still we smack their hand with a warning. > I believe we should use warnings for erroneous conditions only. > > Thanks, > Stan > > From: Yakov Zhdanov > Sent: 19 июля 2018 г. 16:54 > To: dev@ignite.apache.org > Cc: antkr....@gmail.com; somefire...@gmail.com; ptupit...@apache.org > Subject: Re: Pushing IGNITE-6826 forward > > Guys, multicast IP finder gives new user an opportunity to run tests on > several machines with zero config changes. And you want to change this > which is not good in my view. > > Probably, we need to output warning pointing that user can change multicast > group to avoid undesired discovery and isolate several clusters in the same > network. > > --Yakov > > 2018-07-18 17:30 GMT+03:00 Dmitry Pavlov : > > > Hi Stanislav, > > > > I wish this push will have effect. > > > > Just two proposals that will help Igniters to easily jump into such > emails: > > 1. Include ticket short description into subject, not only number. > > 2. Include link to JIRA issue into body so it could be easily clicked to > > find out details. > > It can seem not important, but saves a minute for everyone. > > > > Sincerely, > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > ср, 18 июл. 2018 г. в 16:32, Stanislav Lukyanov >: > > > > > Hi Igniters, > > > > > > There is a small but annoying issue with examples using > MulticastIpFinder > > > by default. > > > The JIRA is IGNITE-6826. > > > > > > AntonK and DmitriiR have suggested PRs to fix this, but PavelT had some > > > concerns and the fix stuck as the result. > > > > > > Pavel, could you please suggest necessary changes to the PRs so that > guys > > > can move forward with integration? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Stan > > > > > > >
RE: Pushing IGNITE-6826 forward
Yakov, First, it doesn’t seem likely that many people would run examples on several machines. Even if someone would, they’d probably start doing so after some experimentation with a single host – at the moment when they’re already adjusted enough to check and edit some configs. Second, I don’t think that this use case outweighs the troubles new (and even experienced) users get because of the multicast. Even if it helps some users to get started in their first 30 minutes with Ignite, it will just as well confuse them later and leave a feeling of unstable product. Showing a warning with default settings is confusing – a user didn’t do anything wrong, and still we smack their hand with a warning. I believe we should use warnings for erroneous conditions only. Thanks, Stan From: Yakov Zhdanov Sent: 19 июля 2018 г. 16:54 To: dev@ignite.apache.org Cc: antkr@gmail.com; somefire...@gmail.com; ptupit...@apache.org Subject: Re: Pushing IGNITE-6826 forward Guys, multicast IP finder gives new user an opportunity to run tests on several machines with zero config changes. And you want to change this which is not good in my view. Probably, we need to output warning pointing that user can change multicast group to avoid undesired discovery and isolate several clusters in the same network. --Yakov 2018-07-18 17:30 GMT+03:00 Dmitry Pavlov : > Hi Stanislav, > > I wish this push will have effect. > > Just two proposals that will help Igniters to easily jump into such emails: > 1. Include ticket short description into subject, not only number. > 2. Include link to JIRA issue into body so it could be easily clicked to > find out details. > It can seem not important, but saves a minute for everyone. > > Sincerely, > Dmitriy Pavlov > > ср, 18 июл. 2018 г. в 16:32, Stanislav Lukyanov : > > > Hi Igniters, > > > > There is a small but annoying issue with examples using MulticastIpFinder > > by default. > > The JIRA is IGNITE-6826. > > > > AntonK and DmitriiR have suggested PRs to fix this, but PavelT had some > > concerns and the fix stuck as the result. > > > > Pavel, could you please suggest necessary changes to the PRs so that guys > > can move forward with integration? > > > > Thanks, > > Stan > > >
Re: Pushing IGNITE-6826 forward
Guys, multicast IP finder gives new user an opportunity to run tests on several machines with zero config changes. And you want to change this which is not good in my view. Probably, we need to output warning pointing that user can change multicast group to avoid undesired discovery and isolate several clusters in the same network. --Yakov 2018-07-18 17:30 GMT+03:00 Dmitry Pavlov : > Hi Stanislav, > > I wish this push will have effect. > > Just two proposals that will help Igniters to easily jump into such emails: > 1. Include ticket short description into subject, not only number. > 2. Include link to JIRA issue into body so it could be easily clicked to > find out details. > It can seem not important, but saves a minute for everyone. > > Sincerely, > Dmitriy Pavlov > > ср, 18 июл. 2018 г. в 16:32, Stanislav Lukyanov : > > > Hi Igniters, > > > > There is a small but annoying issue with examples using MulticastIpFinder > > by default. > > The JIRA is IGNITE-6826. > > > > AntonK and DmitriiR have suggested PRs to fix this, but PavelT had some > > concerns and the fix stuck as the result. > > > > Pavel, could you please suggest necessary changes to the PRs so that guys > > can move forward with integration? > > > > Thanks, > > Stan > > >
Re: Pushing IGNITE-6826 forward
Hi Stanislav, I wish this push will have effect. Just two proposals that will help Igniters to easily jump into such emails: 1. Include ticket short description into subject, not only number. 2. Include link to JIRA issue into body so it could be easily clicked to find out details. It can seem not important, but saves a minute for everyone. Sincerely, Dmitriy Pavlov ср, 18 июл. 2018 г. в 16:32, Stanislav Lukyanov : > Hi Igniters, > > There is a small but annoying issue with examples using MulticastIpFinder > by default. > The JIRA is IGNITE-6826. > > AntonK and DmitriiR have suggested PRs to fix this, but PavelT had some > concerns and the fix stuck as the result. > > Pavel, could you please suggest necessary changes to the PRs so that guys > can move forward with integration? > > Thanks, > Stan >
Pushing IGNITE-6826 forward
Hi Igniters, There is a small but annoying issue with examples using MulticastIpFinder by default. The JIRA is IGNITE-6826. AntonK and DmitriiR have suggested PRs to fix this, but PavelT had some concerns and the fix stuck as the result. Pavel, could you please suggest necessary changes to the PRs so that guys can move forward with integration? Thanks, Stan
