[jbehave-dev] [jira] Commented: (JBEHAVE-49) Maven 2 support

2007-06-05 Thread Mauro Talevi (JIRA)

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Mauro Talevi commented on JBEHAVE-49:
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Stefan, these are valid points, worth discussing.  Bringing it to dev list.








 Maven 2 support
 ---

 Key: JBEHAVE-49
 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JBEHAVE-49
 Project: JBehave
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: Build system
Reporter: Mauro Talevi
 Attachments: jbehave-49-classloader.patch, maven-patch.txt


 Regardless of feelings about maven vs ant, there is a case for supporting 
 both.
 IMO maven 2 provides a declarative approach that simplifies readability of 
 build system, 
 especially for multicomponent systems.
 Discussions on merits should be on the list.   
 Here I'm attaching an initial spike patch that mavenises build for people to 
 have a look at and get a feel.
 Read README.txt to start off with - need to install cotta jar in the local 
 repo (this is just a temporary step to get build
 working - it can also be configured to be installed automatically or deployed 
 to ibiblio).
 The behaviours still fail to run because of the 
 jbehave.core.util.BehavioursLoader does not provide injection of classloader. 
  

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[jbehave-dev] [jira] Commented: (JBEHAVE-49) Maven 2 support

2007-06-04 Thread Mauro Talevi (JIRA)

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Mauro Talevi commented on JBEHAVE-49:
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Stefan, a few comments from a cursory look. 

I have purposefully avoided linking the behaviour scope to 'test'.  
Also, I'm not sure I understand how this proposed patch differs from current 
implementation.  It too uses a separate classloader to instantiate the 
behaviours. 

I'll have a look into more detail during the week.  Thanks.



 Maven 2 support
 ---

 Key: JBEHAVE-49
 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JBEHAVE-49
 Project: JBehave
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: Build system
Reporter: Mauro Talevi
 Attachments: jbehave-49-classloader.patch, maven-patch.txt


 Regardless of feelings about maven vs ant, there is a case for supporting 
 both.
 IMO maven 2 provides a declarative approach that simplifies readability of 
 build system, 
 especially for multicomponent systems.
 Discussions on merits should be on the list.   
 Here I'm attaching an initial spike patch that mavenises build for people to 
 have a look at and get a feel.
 Read README.txt to start off with - need to install cotta jar in the local 
 repo (this is just a temporary step to get build
 working - it can also be configured to be installed automatically or deployed 
 to ibiblio).
 The behaviours still fail to run because of the 
 jbehave.core.util.BehavioursLoader does not provide injection of classloader. 
  

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Re: [jbehave-dev] [jira] Commented: (JBEHAVE-49) Maven 2 support

2007-06-04 Thread Stefan Hübner

uhm, bq. is the way to quote in JIRA. It doesn't help reading
mail-replies though. please read bq. ... in the mail below as
Mauro's quoted statements.

Stefan

2007/6/5, Stefan Hübner (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


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Stefan Hübner commented on JBEHAVE-49:
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Mauro,

bq. Stefan, a few comments from a cursory look. I have purposefully avoided 
linking the behaviour scope to 'test'.

Oh, maybe I should have asked before altering the plugin to serve my personal 
needs. I was assuming, that behaviours are - in a way - like unit tests. So I 
put them into the src/test/java-folder instinctively. Now I know, my perception 
was misled maybe.

But to stretch that thought a bit - by assuming the behaviours are to be found in src/main/java you seem to recommend a 
multiproject structure, where behaviours or stories are placed in parallel modules of the one to be verified. So e.g. I have a 
modul A for what I like to write some specs. I would end up with a multiproject structure comprising a second modul 
A-behaviours and a third A-stories. Or maybe just two, like A and A-specs-modules 
glued together by an aggregating multiproject-POM. Is this what you suggest? I could happily live with that. Should have known 
just a bit earlier.

bq. Also, I'm not sure I understand how this proposed patch differs from 
current implementation. It too uses a separate classloader to instantiate the 
behaviours.

I took the approach the surefire-plugin is based on. It doesn't import *any* 
JUnit-specific classes, but instead loads them into a completely isolated 
classloader. Of course this brings some nasty reflection mechanics as a side 
effect, though.

The difference to your implementation is, that the patched plugin doesn't leave 
the classloading hassles to the jbehave-library. Rather it puts the 
jbehave-classes into the same classloader, that serves as the classloader for 
the behaviours to be verified. So jbehave is on the same classpath as the 
behaviours and nowhere else.

I did some experiments with the hellbound example, put it's sources into 
different modules and tried to run the behaviours. The patch worked fine. So I 
was happy with it and thought, you'd find it handy too.

But either way, I'd just like to see a maven plugin that works, since I 
appreciate your effort very much. I do hope seeing the project gaining momentum 
in the near future. To me, a maven plugin is a must though, before I can spread 
the word.

 Maven 2 support
 ---

 Key: JBEHAVE-49
 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JBEHAVE-49
 Project: JBehave
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: Build system
Reporter: Mauro Talevi
 Attachments: jbehave-49-classloader.patch, maven-patch.txt


 Regardless of feelings about maven vs ant, there is a case for supporting 
both.
 IMO maven 2 provides a declarative approach that simplifies readability of 
build system,
 especially for multicomponent systems.
 Discussions on merits should be on the list.
 Here I'm attaching an initial spike patch that mavenises build for people to 
have a look at and get a feel.
 Read README.txt to start off with - need to install cotta jar in the local 
repo (this is just a temporary step to get build
 working - it can also be configured to be installed automatically or deployed 
to ibiblio).
 The behaviours still fail to run because of the 
jbehave.core.util.BehavioursLoader does not provide injection of classloader.

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[jbehave-dev] [jira] Commented: (JBEHAVE-49) Maven 2 support

2007-06-04 Thread JIRA

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Stefan Hübner commented on JBEHAVE-49:
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Mauro,

bq. Stefan, a few comments from a cursory look. I have purposefully avoided 
linking the behaviour scope to 'test'.

Oh, maybe I should have asked before altering the plugin to serve my personal 
needs. I was assuming, that behaviours are - in a way - like unit tests. So I 
put them into the src/test/java-folder instinctively. Now I know, my perception 
was misled maybe.

But to stretch that thought a bit - by assuming the behaviours are to be found 
in src/main/java you seem to recommend a multiproject structure, where 
behaviours or stories are placed in parallel modules of the one to be verified. 
So e.g. I have a modul A for what I like to write some specs. I would end up 
with a multiproject structure comprising a second modul A-behaviours and a 
third A-stories. Or maybe just two, like A and A-specs-modules glued 
together by an aggregating multiproject-POM. Is this what you suggest? I could 
happily live with that. Should have known just a bit earlier.

bq. Also, I'm not sure I understand how this proposed patch differs from 
current implementation. It too uses a separate classloader to instantiate the 
behaviours.

I took the approach the surefire-plugin is based on. It doesn't import *any* 
JUnit-specific classes, but instead loads them into a completely isolated 
classloader. Of course this brings some nasty reflection mechanics as a side 
effect, though.

The difference to your implementation is, that the patched plugin doesn't leave 
the classloading hassles to the jbehave-library. Rather it puts the 
jbehave-classes into the same classloader, that serves as the classloader for 
the behaviours to be verified. So jbehave is on the same classpath as the 
behaviours and nowhere else.

I did some experiments with the hellbound example, put it's sources into 
different modules and tried to run the behaviours. The patch worked fine. So I 
was happy with it and thought, you'd find it handy too.

But either way, I'd just like to see a maven plugin that works, since I 
appreciate your effort very much. I do hope seeing the project gaining momentum 
in the near future. To me, a maven plugin is a must though, before I can spread 
the word.

 Maven 2 support
 ---

 Key: JBEHAVE-49
 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JBEHAVE-49
 Project: JBehave
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: Build system
Reporter: Mauro Talevi
 Attachments: jbehave-49-classloader.patch, maven-patch.txt


 Regardless of feelings about maven vs ant, there is a case for supporting 
 both.
 IMO maven 2 provides a declarative approach that simplifies readability of 
 build system, 
 especially for multicomponent systems.
 Discussions on merits should be on the list.   
 Here I'm attaching an initial spike patch that mavenises build for people to 
 have a look at and get a feel.
 Read README.txt to start off with - need to install cotta jar in the local 
 repo (this is just a temporary step to get build
 working - it can also be configured to be installed automatically or deployed 
 to ibiblio).
 The behaviours still fail to run because of the 
 jbehave.core.util.BehavioursLoader does not provide injection of classloader. 
  

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