[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-1530) howto update continuously

2014-07-09 Thread Stanislav Gilmulin (JIRA)

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Stanislav Gilmulin commented on KAFKA-1530:
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It means we have the risks.
You're right. My question wansn't clear. Let me try to explain.

First of all, accordint to business requirements we can't stop the service. So 
we can't stop all nodes before updating.
And, as you've advised, our option would be updating step by step.  
But when we update without using the right procedure, we could lose an unknown 
amount of messages in the example case presented below. 

Let's consider this case for a example.
We have 3 replicas of one partition with 2 of them lagging behind. Then we 
restart the leader. At that very moment one of the two lagging partitions 
become a new leader. After that, when the used-to-be-leader partiton starts 
working again (and which in fact has the newest data), it truncates all the 
newest data to match with now elected leader.
This situation happens quite often when we restart a highly loaded Kafka 
cluster, so that we loose some part of our data.



> howto update continuously
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>
> Key: KAFKA-1530
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-1530
> Project: Kafka
>  Issue Type: Wish
>Reporter: Stanislav Gilmulin
>Priority: Minor
>  Labels: operating_manual, performance
>
> Hi,
>  
> Could I ask you a question about the Kafka update procedure?
> Is there a way to update software, which doesn't require service interruption 
> or lead to data losses?
> We can't stop message brokering during the update as we have a strict SLA.
>  
> Best regards
> Stanislav Gilmulin



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[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-1530) howto update continuously

2014-07-09 Thread Stanislav Gilmulin (JIRA)

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Stanislav Gilmulin commented on KAFKA-1530:
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Thank you,
i'd like to ask some questions.
If a cluster has a lot of nodes and a few of them are lagging or down, we can't 
guarantee we would stop and restart nodes properly and in the right order  
Is there any recommended way to manage it?
Or even an already existing script or tool for it?
Replication factor = 3.
Version 0.8.1.1

> howto update continuously
> -
>
> Key: KAFKA-1530
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-1530
> Project: Kafka
>  Issue Type: Wish
>Reporter: Stanislav Gilmulin
>Priority: Minor
>  Labels: operating_manual, performance
>
> Hi,
>  
> Could I ask you a question about the Kafka update procedure?
> Is there a way to update software, which doesn't require service interruption 
> or lead to data losses?
> We can't stop message brokering during the update as we have a strict SLA.
>  
> Best regards
> Stanislav Gilmulin



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[jira] [Created] (KAFKA-1530) howto update continuously

2014-07-08 Thread Stanislav Gilmulin (JIRA)
Stanislav Gilmulin created KAFKA-1530:
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 Summary: howto update continuously
 Key: KAFKA-1530
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-1530
 Project: Kafka
  Issue Type: Wish
Reporter: Stanislav Gilmulin
Priority: Minor


Hi,
 
Could I ask you a question about the Kafka update procedure?
Is there a way to update software, which doesn't require service interruption 
or lead to data losses?
We can't stop message brokering during the update as we have a strict SLA.
 
Best regards
Stanislav Gilmulin



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