Re: Fwd: Move KarafEE project to Apache Karaf

2013-05-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
Again, to be clean (sorry if I'm a bit maniac ;)), I will start a vote 
with [VOTE] in the subject.


I will deal with that today.

Regards
JB

On 05/16/2013 08:52 AM, Charles Moulliard wrote:

Can I reuse my previous email to start Karaf vote ? You can consider that
you get votes from Romain, David & Jean-Louis.


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:


Hi Charles,

To be Apache "compliant", I would prefer 3 PMC votes.

However, we can start a formal vote on Karaf side.

Regards
JB


On 05/15/2013 01:43 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:


Hi,

Can we consider the response from Jean-Louis Monteiro / David Blevins as
enough to start vote about KarafEE project move ?

Regards,

Charles

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO 
Date: Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Move KarafEE project to Apache Karaf
To: d...@tomee.apache.org


Hi Charles,

Yes, we discussed that already and agree it's the best solution if KarafEE
is considered as a relevant alternative.

Jean-Louis


2013/5/13 Charles Moulliard 

  Hi,


Some weeks ago (thx to Romain and others) we have discussed about KarafEE
future. This project which is until now part of Apache TomEE was an


attempt


to promote JEE concepts top of Karaf Multicontainer OSGI runtime (using
OpenEJB, OpenJPA & OpenWebbeans). Unfortunately, it will not be longer
maintained by TomEE contributors and should find a new home.

This is mainly the reason why I contact TomEE Dev Team to propose to


submit


to a vote the following suggestion :
[1] : Moving KarafEE code from Apache TomEE to KarafEE as a subproject

If everybody agree and vote succeed, then I propose to orchestrate the


work


of moving the code from TomEE to KarafEE, creating doc pages describing
goals of the projects, ...

Regards,

--
Charles Moulliard
Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com





-
-
-
Jean-Louis





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Re: Fwd: Move KarafEE project to Apache Karaf

2013-05-15 Thread Charles Moulliard 
Can I reuse my previous email to start Karaf vote ? You can consider that
you get votes from Romain, David & Jean-Louis.


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

> Hi Charles,
>
> To be Apache "compliant", I would prefer 3 PMC votes.
>
> However, we can start a formal vote on Karaf side.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 05/15/2013 01:43 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can we consider the response from Jean-Louis Monteiro / David Blevins as
>> enough to start vote about KarafEE project move ?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO 
>> Date: Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: Move KarafEE project to Apache Karaf
>> To: d...@tomee.apache.org
>>
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> Yes, we discussed that already and agree it's the best solution if KarafEE
>> is considered as a relevant alternative.
>>
>> Jean-Louis
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/13 Charles Moulliard 
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> Some weeks ago (thx to Romain and others) we have discussed about KarafEE
>>> future. This project which is until now part of Apache TomEE was an
>>>
>> attempt
>>
>>> to promote JEE concepts top of Karaf Multicontainer OSGI runtime (using
>>> OpenEJB, OpenJPA & OpenWebbeans). Unfortunately, it will not be longer
>>> maintained by TomEE contributors and should find a new home.
>>>
>>> This is mainly the reason why I contact TomEE Dev Team to propose to
>>>
>> submit
>>
>>> to a vote the following suggestion :
>>> [1] : Moving KarafEE code from Apache TomEE to KarafEE as a subproject
>>>
>>> If everybody agree and vote succeed, then I propose to orchestrate the
>>>
>> work
>>
>>> of moving the code from TomEE to KarafEE, creating doc pages describing
>>> goals of the projects, ...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charles Moulliard
>>> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
>>> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> -
>> -
>> Jean-Louis
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>



-- 
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Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com

Re: Create KarafEE as a Karaf subproject

2013-05-15 Thread Ioannis Canellos 
Even though the concerns about an orphaned subproject are valid, I am not
worried about it, as I don't think it has a real impact in the community or
the project itself.

So I am perfectly fine with having it as a subproject.



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:

> Hi Charles,
>
> I really like the idea of the KarafEE project, though right now I have some
> doubts.
> First of all it looks like it's being a orphaned sub-project at the TomEE
> Project, so
> yes this makes it valid to ask for a transfer, but who's gonna be the main
> maintainer for it?
> Right now we have about already about 4 different subprojects of wich only
> one is really maintained
> right now. EIK for example the main committer just vanished after the
> sources had been moved.
> I really don't want to end up with another orphaned sub-project in the
> karaf space, especially
> since right now we're lacking some manpower.
>
> We still get enough votes for releases, that's a good sign.
> On the other hand my gut feeling tells me we're having a decreasing size of
> active committers for about 6 to 9 Month.
> But this is just my humble opinion, I really would love to be proven wrong
> :D
>
> regards, Achim
>
>
>
> 2013/5/13 Romain Manni-Bucau 
>
> > Hi Charles,
> >
> > wonder if it shouldn't just be a subproject of Geronimo which is already
> a
> > JavaEE/OSGi container on top of Karaf
> >
> > that said +1 to get it maintained (personally i don't have enough time to
> > support it as i try to do with TomEE)
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau *
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/5/13 Charles Moulliard 
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Some weeks ago (thx to Romain and others) we have discussed about
> KarafEE
> > > future. This project which is until now part of Apache TomEE was an
> > attempt
> > > to promote JEE concepts top of Karaf Multicontainer OSGI runtime (using
> > > OpenEJB, OpenJPA & OpenWebbeans). Unfortunately, it will not be longer
> > > maintained by TomEE contributors and should find a new home.
> > >
> > > This is mainly the reason why I contact Karaf Dev Team to propose to
> > > submit to a vote the following suggestions :
> > > [1] : Moving KarafEE code from Apache TomEE to KarafEE as a subproject
> > >  [2] : Propose that KarafEE becomes a Karaf subproject supporting OSGI
> EE
> > > Features (JTA, JPA, EJB, CDI, ...)
> > >
> > > If everybody agree and both votes succeed, then I propose to
> orchestrate
> > > the work of moving the code from TomEE to KarafEE, creating doc pages
> > > describing goals of the projects, ...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Charles Moulliard
> > > Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
> > > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Apache Karaf  Committer & PMC
> OPS4J Pax Web  Committer &
> Project Lead
> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin 
> Commiter & Project Lead
> blog 
>



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*

**
Blog: http://iocanel.blogspot.com
**
Twitter: iocanel
*

Re: Create KarafEE as a Karaf subproject

2013-05-15 Thread Achim Nierbeck 
Hi Charles,

I really like the idea of the KarafEE project, though right now I have some
doubts.
First of all it looks like it's being a orphaned sub-project at the TomEE
Project, so
yes this makes it valid to ask for a transfer, but who's gonna be the main
maintainer for it?
Right now we have about already about 4 different subprojects of wich only
one is really maintained
right now. EIK for example the main committer just vanished after the
sources had been moved.
I really don't want to end up with another orphaned sub-project in the
karaf space, especially
since right now we're lacking some manpower.

We still get enough votes for releases, that's a good sign.
On the other hand my gut feeling tells me we're having a decreasing size of
active committers for about 6 to 9 Month.
But this is just my humble opinion, I really would love to be proven wrong
:D

regards, Achim



2013/5/13 Romain Manni-Bucau 

> Hi Charles,
>
> wonder if it shouldn't just be a subproject of Geronimo which is already a
> JavaEE/OSGi container on top of Karaf
>
> that said +1 to get it maintained (personally i don't have enough time to
> support it as i try to do with TomEE)
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> *Twitter: @rmannibucau *
> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>
>
>
> 2013/5/13 Charles Moulliard 
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Some weeks ago (thx to Romain and others) we have discussed about KarafEE
> > future. This project which is until now part of Apache TomEE was an
> attempt
> > to promote JEE concepts top of Karaf Multicontainer OSGI runtime (using
> > OpenEJB, OpenJPA & OpenWebbeans). Unfortunately, it will not be longer
> > maintained by TomEE contributors and should find a new home.
> >
> > This is mainly the reason why I contact Karaf Dev Team to propose to
> > submit to a vote the following suggestions :
> > [1] : Moving KarafEE code from Apache TomEE to KarafEE as a subproject
> >  [2] : Propose that KarafEE becomes a Karaf subproject supporting OSGI EE
> > Features (JTA, JPA, EJB, CDI, ...)
> >
> > If everybody agree and both votes succeed, then I propose to orchestrate
> > the work of moving the code from TomEE to KarafEE, creating doc pages
> > describing goals of the projects, ...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Charles Moulliard
> > Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
> > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >
> >
>



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Re: Fwd: Move KarafEE project to Apache Karaf

2013-05-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré 

Hi Charles,

To be Apache "compliant", I would prefer 3 PMC votes.

However, we can start a formal vote on Karaf side.

Regards
JB

On 05/15/2013 01:43 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:

Hi,

Can we consider the response from Jean-Louis Monteiro / David Blevins as
enough to start vote about KarafEE project move ?

Regards,

Charles

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO 
Date: Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Move KarafEE project to Apache Karaf
To: d...@tomee.apache.org


Hi Charles,

Yes, we discussed that already and agree it's the best solution if KarafEE
is considered as a relevant alternative.

Jean-Louis


2013/5/13 Charles Moulliard 


Hi,

Some weeks ago (thx to Romain and others) we have discussed about KarafEE
future. This project which is until now part of Apache TomEE was an

attempt

to promote JEE concepts top of Karaf Multicontainer OSGI runtime (using
OpenEJB, OpenJPA & OpenWebbeans). Unfortunately, it will not be longer
maintained by TomEE contributors and should find a new home.

This is mainly the reason why I contact TomEE Dev Team to propose to

submit

to a vote the following suggestion :
[1] : Moving KarafEE code from Apache TomEE to KarafEE as a subproject

If everybody agree and vote succeed, then I propose to orchestrate the

work

of moving the code from TomEE to KarafEE, creating doc pages describing
goals of the projects, ...

Regards,

--
Charles Moulliard
Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com





-
-
-
Jean-Louis





--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

Fwd: Move KarafEE project to Apache Karaf

2013-05-15 Thread Charles Moulliard 
Hi,

Can we consider the response from Jean-Louis Monteiro / David Blevins as
enough to start vote about KarafEE project move ?

Regards,

Charles

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO 
Date: Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Move KarafEE project to Apache Karaf
To: d...@tomee.apache.org


Hi Charles,

Yes, we discussed that already and agree it's the best solution if KarafEE
is considered as a relevant alternative.

Jean-Louis


2013/5/13 Charles Moulliard 

> Hi,
>
> Some weeks ago (thx to Romain and others) we have discussed about KarafEE
> future. This project which is until now part of Apache TomEE was an
attempt
> to promote JEE concepts top of Karaf Multicontainer OSGI runtime (using
> OpenEJB, OpenJPA & OpenWebbeans). Unfortunately, it will not be longer
> maintained by TomEE contributors and should find a new home.
>
> This is mainly the reason why I contact TomEE Dev Team to propose to
submit
> to a vote the following suggestion :
> [1] : Moving KarafEE code from Apache TomEE to KarafEE as a subproject
>
> If everybody agree and vote succeed, then I propose to orchestrate the
work
> of moving the code from TomEE to KarafEE, creating doc pages describing
> goals of the projects, ...
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Charles Moulliard
> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>



-
-
-
Jean-Louis



-- 
Charles Moulliard
Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com