Re: [DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

As we don't have consensus on "cloud" logo, I cancel this vote and
start a new one with another proposal.

Thanks,
Regards
JB

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 6:43 PM Matt Pavlovich  wrote:
>
> -1 (non-binding)
>
> My $0.02 —
>
> 1. The cloud logo is not friendly to be turned into a font
> 2. I prefer the alternative hexagon logo is simpler (even if similar to 
> others) and better suited for the things logos are used for — stickers, font, 
> ascii art, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt Pavlovich
>
> On Nov 13, 2022, at 1:47 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
>
> Hi guys
>
> I did a review on twitter and linkedin feedback about Karaf logo (the « cloud 
> » one).
>
> To summarize, we only have +1 and two « comments » like « cloud is not 
> related to Karaf ».
>
> So, I wonder to make a call and formal vote:
>
> +1 to adopt Karaf cloud logo
> -1 for Karaf cloud logo and work on a new one
>
> The reason I’m asking is because I’m working on website proposal. So I would 
> like to integrate the logo.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> Le mar. 1 nov. 2022 à 14:11, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  a écrit 
> :
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> as discussed on a previous thread, I'm working on a new website
>> proposal with the following objectives:
>>
>> 1. Use docusaurus instead of jekyll to build. The good thing is that
>> it supports md syntax, blog, etc.
>> 2. Give the same space/visibility to the subprojects (Karaf Minho,
>> Karaf OSGi, Karaf Decanter, Karaf Cellar, Karaf Cave, Karaf
>> Winegrower)
>> 3. Add blog feature to announce and provide details about Karaf projects
>>
>> Related to that, I created a new "generic" logo for Karaf (each
>> project can have its own logo).
>>
>> You can see the logo proposal attached.
>>
>> Basically the idea is:
>> - boxes populating the cloud represent Karaf projects
>> - we can assembly Karaf projects to create a cloud solution
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> If we agree with this logo, I would like to prepare some goodies using
>> it (probably on https://www.redbubble.com/en/).
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[Matt Pavlovich]

-1 (non-binding)

My $0.02 —

1. The cloud logo is not friendly to be turned into a font
2. I prefer the alternative hexagon logo is simpler (even if similar to others) 
and better suited for the things logos are used for — stickers, font, ascii 
art, etc.

Thanks,
Matt Pavlovich

> On Nov 13, 2022, at 1:47 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys
> 
> I did a review on twitter and linkedin feedback about Karaf logo (the « cloud 
> » one). 
> 
> To summarize, we only have +1 and two « comments » like « cloud is not 
> related to Karaf ». 
> 
> So, I wonder to make a call and formal vote:
> 
> +1 to adopt Karaf cloud logo
> -1 for Karaf cloud logo and work on a new one
> 
> The reason I’m asking is because I’m working on website proposal. So I would 
> like to integrate the logo. 
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
> Le mar. 1 nov. 2022 à 14:11, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  > a écrit :
> Hi guys,
> 
> as discussed on a previous thread, I'm working on a new website
> proposal with the following objectives:
> 
> 1. Use docusaurus instead of jekyll to build. The good thing is that
> it supports md syntax, blog, etc.
> 2. Give the same space/visibility to the subprojects (Karaf Minho,
> Karaf OSGi, Karaf Decanter, Karaf Cellar, Karaf Cave, Karaf
> Winegrower)
> 3. Add blog feature to announce and provide details about Karaf projects
> 
> Related to that, I created a new "generic" logo for Karaf (each
> project can have its own logo).
> 
> You can see the logo proposal attached.
> 
> Basically the idea is:
> - boxes populating the cloud represent Karaf projects
> - we can assembly Karaf projects to create a cloud solution
> 
> Thoughts ?
> 
> If we agree with this logo, I would like to prepare some goodies using
> it (probably on https://www.redbubble.com/en/ 
> ).
> 
> Regards
> JB

Re: [DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[fpapon]

+1

On 13/11/2022 08:47, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

Hi guys

I did a review on twitter and linkedin feedback about Karaf logo (the «
cloud » one).

To summarize, we only have +1 and two « comments » like « cloud is not
related to Karaf ».

So, I wonder to make a call and formal vote:

+1 to adopt Karaf cloud logo
-1 for Karaf cloud logo and work on a new one

The reason I’m asking is because I’m working on website proposal. So I
would like to integrate the logo.

Regards
JB

Le mar. 1 nov. 2022 à 14:11, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  a
écrit :


Hi guys,

as discussed on a previous thread, I'm working on a new website
proposal with the following objectives:

1. Use docusaurus instead of jekyll to build. The good thing is that
it supports md syntax, blog, etc.
2. Give the same space/visibility to the subprojects (Karaf Minho,
Karaf OSGi, Karaf Decanter, Karaf Cellar, Karaf Cave, Karaf
Winegrower)
3. Add blog feature to announce and provide details about Karaf projects

Related to that, I created a new "generic" logo for Karaf (each
project can have its own logo).

You can see the logo proposal attached.

Basically the idea is:
- boxes populating the cloud represent Karaf projects
- we can assembly Karaf projects to create a cloud solution

Thoughts ?

If we agree with this logo, I would like to prepare some goodies using
it (probably on https://www.redbubble.com/en/).

Regards
JB


--
--
François

Re: [DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi guys

I did a review on twitter and linkedin feedback about Karaf logo (the «
cloud » one).

To summarize, we only have +1 and two « comments » like « cloud is not
related to Karaf ».

So, I wonder to make a call and formal vote:

+1 to adopt Karaf cloud logo
-1 for Karaf cloud logo and work on a new one

The reason I’m asking is because I’m working on website proposal. So I
would like to integrate the logo.

Regards
JB

Le mar. 1 nov. 2022 à 14:11, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  a
écrit :

> Hi guys,
>
> as discussed on a previous thread, I'm working on a new website
> proposal with the following objectives:
>
> 1. Use docusaurus instead of jekyll to build. The good thing is that
> it supports md syntax, blog, etc.
> 2. Give the same space/visibility to the subprojects (Karaf Minho,
> Karaf OSGi, Karaf Decanter, Karaf Cellar, Karaf Cave, Karaf
> Winegrower)
> 3. Add blog feature to announce and provide details about Karaf projects
>
> Related to that, I created a new "generic" logo for Karaf (each
> project can have its own logo).
>
> You can see the logo proposal attached.
>
> Basically the idea is:
> - boxes populating the cloud represent Karaf projects
> - we can assembly Karaf projects to create a cloud solution
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> If we agree with this logo, I would like to prepare some goodies using
> it (probably on https://www.redbubble.com/en/).
>
> Regards
> JB
>

RE: [DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[Maurice Betzel]

How about something like a dry stone wall.

More detailed metaphor explanation:

https://fgiesen.wordpress.com/2015/07/22/the-modulith/

Met vriendelijke groet / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards,
Maurice Betzel
Principal Software Engineer
Gaston Schul Group
Department ICT
Kazernestraat 10
5928 NL Venlo

Phone: +31 77 32 460 26
Mobile Phone: +31 6 10 37 58 03
Website: www.gaston-schul.com





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Hi guys,

Thanks all for your feedback.

Regarding your comments (it seems cloud logo doesn't convince everyone), and to 
represent more the generic aspect of karaf (as umbrella project), I created a 
new more abstract logo.

Thoughts ?

Regards
JB

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 2:11 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> as discussed on a previous thread, I'm working on a new website
> proposal with the following objectives:
>
> 1. Use docusaurus instead of jekyll to build. The good thing is that
> it supports md syntax, blog, etc.
> 2. Give the same space/visibility to the subprojects (Karaf Minho,
> Karaf OSGi, Karaf Decanter, Karaf Cellar, Karaf Cave, Karaf
> Winegrower)
> 3. Add blog feature to announce and provide details about Karaf
> projects
>
> Related to that, I created a new "generic" logo for Karaf (each
> project can have its own logo).
>
> You can see the logo proposal attached.
>
> Basically the idea is:
> - boxes populating the cloud represent Karaf projects
> - we can assembly Karaf projects to create a cloud solution
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> If we agree with this logo, I would like to prepare some goodies using
> it (probably on https://www.redbubble.com/en/).
>
> Regards
> JB
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Re: [DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Good point.

My bad, let me rework it ;)
It's probably too abstract ;)

Thanks !

Regards
JB

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 1:32 PM Grzegorz Grzybek 
wrote:

> Hello
>
> I think I saw something similar... google-images searching, I found:
>
> Kaspersky:
> [image: image.png]
>
> PPC System:
> [image: image.png]
>
> Innolitics:
> [image: image.png]
>
> And I couldn't resist ;)
> [image: image.png]
>
> personally, I liked the previous one better, but I'm not an expert.
>
> regards
> Grzegorz Grzybek
>
>
> pon., 7 lis 2022 o 13:20 Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> napisał(a):
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Thanks all for your feedback.
>>
>> Regarding your comments (it seems cloud logo doesn't convince
>> everyone), and to represent more the generic aspect of karaf (as
>> umbrella project), I created a new more abstract logo.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 2:11 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > as discussed on a previous thread, I'm working on a new website
>> > proposal with the following objectives:
>> >
>> > 1. Use docusaurus instead of jekyll to build. The good thing is that
>> > it supports md syntax, blog, etc.
>> > 2. Give the same space/visibility to the subprojects (Karaf Minho,
>> > Karaf OSGi, Karaf Decanter, Karaf Cellar, Karaf Cave, Karaf
>> > Winegrower)
>> > 3. Add blog feature to announce and provide details about Karaf projects
>> >
>> > Related to that, I created a new "generic" logo for Karaf (each
>> > project can have its own logo).
>> >
>> > You can see the logo proposal attached.
>> >
>> > Basically the idea is:
>> > - boxes populating the cloud represent Karaf projects
>> > - we can assembly Karaf projects to create a cloud solution
>> >
>> > Thoughts ?
>> >
>> > If we agree with this logo, I would like to prepare some goodies using
>> > it (probably on https://www.redbubble.com/en/).
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > JB
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[Grzegorz Grzybek]

Hello

I think I saw something similar... google-images searching, I found:

Kaspersky:
[image: image.png]

PPC System:
[image: image.png]

Innolitics:
[image: image.png]

And I couldn't resist ;)
[image: image.png]

personally, I liked the previous one better, but I'm not an expert.

regards
Grzegorz Grzybek


pon., 7 lis 2022 o 13:20 Jean-Baptiste Onofré  napisał(a):

> Hi guys,
>
> Thanks all for your feedback.
>
> Regarding your comments (it seems cloud logo doesn't convince
> everyone), and to represent more the generic aspect of karaf (as
> umbrella project), I created a new more abstract logo.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 2:11 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > as discussed on a previous thread, I'm working on a new website
> > proposal with the following objectives:
> >
> > 1. Use docusaurus instead of jekyll to build. The good thing is that
> > it supports md syntax, blog, etc.
> > 2. Give the same space/visibility to the subprojects (Karaf Minho,
> > Karaf OSGi, Karaf Decanter, Karaf Cellar, Karaf Cave, Karaf
> > Winegrower)
> > 3. Add blog feature to announce and provide details about Karaf projects
> >
> > Related to that, I created a new "generic" logo for Karaf (each
> > project can have its own logo).
> >
> > You can see the logo proposal attached.
> >
> > Basically the idea is:
> > - boxes populating the cloud represent Karaf projects
> > - we can assembly Karaf projects to create a cloud solution
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > If we agree with this logo, I would like to prepare some goodies using
> > it (probably on https://www.redbubble.com/en/).
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi guys,

Thanks all for your feedback.

Regarding your comments (it seems cloud logo doesn't convince
everyone), and to represent more the generic aspect of karaf (as
umbrella project), I created a new more abstract logo.

Thoughts ?

Regards
JB

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 2:11 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> as discussed on a previous thread, I'm working on a new website
> proposal with the following objectives:
>
> 1. Use docusaurus instead of jekyll to build. The good thing is that
> it supports md syntax, blog, etc.
> 2. Give the same space/visibility to the subprojects (Karaf Minho,
> Karaf OSGi, Karaf Decanter, Karaf Cellar, Karaf Cave, Karaf
> Winegrower)
> 3. Add blog feature to announce and provide details about Karaf projects
>
> Related to that, I created a new "generic" logo for Karaf (each
> project can have its own logo).
>
> You can see the logo proposal attached.
>
> Basically the idea is:
> - boxes populating the cloud represent Karaf projects
> - we can assembly Karaf projects to create a cloud solution
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> If we agree with this logo, I would like to prepare some goodies using
> it (probably on https://www.redbubble.com/en/).
>
> Regards
> JB

Re: [DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Interesting, thanks for the hint Romain. Let me take a look on antora.

Thanks !
Regards
JB

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:22 PM Romain Manni-Bucau  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Did you test antora which supports multiversion and repo to build a
> consistent website? Sounds like a better plan than docusaurus to me.
>
> Otherwise +1
>
> Le mar. 1 nov. 2022 à 14:57, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  a
> écrit :
>
> > Hi Maurice,
> >
> > Yes, that's also my view on cloud: "any computing exposed to the
> > Internet", meaning it could be on prem, cloud VM, k8s, whatever.
> >
> > Showing the sympa instead of boxes is a good idea, but I think it will
> > be hard with a small sized image. That could work on a large "welcome"
> > image. Let me show on the website proposal (I plan to send the email
> > here about the website asap).
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 2:50 PM Maurice Betzel 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Like it,
> > >
> > > I guess a Cloud is the modern accepted way for management levels to
> > depict computers running 'in' the internet, regardless if the cluster is
> > running on premise or a hybrid one, or contains microservices or not.
> > > Potentially add some symbols to the boxes as attached, but that might be
> > an issue with the image resolution.
> > >
> > > Met vriendelijke groet / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards,
> > > Maurice Betzel
> > > Principal Software Engineer
> > > Gaston Schul Group
> > > Department ICT
> > > Kazernestraat 10
> > > 5928 NL Venlo
> > >
> > > Al onze verrichtingen geschieden op basis van de Algemene voorwaarden
> > der Expediteurs van België, gepubliceerd in de bijlage tot het Belgisch
> > Staatsblad dd. 24 juni 2005 onder nr. 0090237. De tekst van deze
> > voorwaarden wordt op uw verzoek gratis toegezonden.
> > > All our transactions are subject to the General Conditions of the
> > Belgian Forwarders Association which have been published under nr. 0090237
> > in the "Bijlage tot het Belgisch Staatsblad" dated June 24th, 2005, and is
> > available free of charge upon request.
> > > Toutes nos opérations se font sur base des Conditions Générales des
> > Expéditeurs de Belgique. Le texte en a été publié dans l' Annexe au
> > Moniteur Belge du 24 juin 2005 sous le n° 0090237. Ce texte sera vous
> > envoyé gratuitment sur demande.
> > > Email confidentiality notice:
> > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> > intended only for the use of the recipient. If you have received this email
> > in error please notify its sender.
> > >
> >

Re: [DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[Romain Manni-Bucau]

Hi

Did you test antora which supports multiversion and repo to build a
consistent website? Sounds like a better plan than docusaurus to me.

Otherwise +1

Le mar. 1 nov. 2022 à 14:57, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  a
écrit :

> Hi Maurice,
>
> Yes, that's also my view on cloud: "any computing exposed to the
> Internet", meaning it could be on prem, cloud VM, k8s, whatever.
>
> Showing the sympa instead of boxes is a good idea, but I think it will
> be hard with a small sized image. That could work on a large "welcome"
> image. Let me show on the website proposal (I plan to send the email
> here about the website asap).
>
> Thanks!
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 2:50 PM Maurice Betzel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Like it,
> >
> > I guess a Cloud is the modern accepted way for management levels to
> depict computers running 'in' the internet, regardless if the cluster is
> running on premise or a hybrid one, or contains microservices or not.
> > Potentially add some symbols to the boxes as attached, but that might be
> an issue with the image resolution.
> >
> > Met vriendelijke groet / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards,
> > Maurice Betzel
> > Principal Software Engineer
> > Gaston Schul Group
> > Department ICT
> > Kazernestraat 10
> > 5928 NL Venlo
> >
> > Al onze verrichtingen geschieden op basis van de Algemene voorwaarden
> der Expediteurs van België, gepubliceerd in de bijlage tot het Belgisch
> Staatsblad dd. 24 juni 2005 onder nr. 0090237. De tekst van deze
> voorwaarden wordt op uw verzoek gratis toegezonden.
> > All our transactions are subject to the General Conditions of the
> Belgian Forwarders Association which have been published under nr. 0090237
> in the "Bijlage tot het Belgisch Staatsblad" dated June 24th, 2005, and is
> available free of charge upon request.
> > Toutes nos opérations se font sur base des Conditions Générales des
> Expéditeurs de Belgique. Le texte en a été publié dans l' Annexe au
> Moniteur Belge du 24 juin 2005 sous le n° 0090237. Ce texte sera vous
> envoyé gratuitment sur demande.
> > Email confidentiality notice:
> > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended only for the use of the recipient. If you have received this email
> in error please notify its sender.
> >
>

[DISCUSS] Adopt new Karaf logo

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi guys,

as discussed on a previous thread, I'm working on a new website
proposal with the following objectives:

1. Use docusaurus instead of jekyll to build. The good thing is that
it supports md syntax, blog, etc.
2. Give the same space/visibility to the subprojects (Karaf Minho,
Karaf OSGi, Karaf Decanter, Karaf Cellar, Karaf Cave, Karaf
Winegrower)
3. Add blog feature to announce and provide details about Karaf projects

Related to that, I created a new "generic" logo for Karaf (each
project can have its own logo).

You can see the logo proposal attached.

Basically the idea is:
- boxes populating the cloud represent Karaf projects
- we can assembly Karaf projects to create a cloud solution

Thoughts ?

If we agree with this logo, I would like to prepare some goodies using
it (probably on https://www.redbubble.com/en/).

Regards
JB