[l10n-dev] Re: IMPORTANT: pls fix double names

2011-04-21 Thread Dwayne Bailey


On 2011-04-20 15:46, Rimas Kudelis wrote:


Hi,

2011.04.20 16:37, Dwayne Bailey rašė:
I'd rather see us spending some time to create a way to inject and 
store arbitrary errors for PO files stored on Pootle. That way anyone 
can create a script that identifies problems, injects them into 
Pootle and allows translators to fix them quickly on Pootle in an 
environment that is familiar and safe.


What about automatically marking invalid translations as fuzzy in the 
.po file and adding a translator comment above them? This would be 
generic enough, and would not depend on Pootle at all.
It's a hack.  It would mean that people writing checks must work on PO 
files, the checks I'm referring to are working directly on SDF files.  
You could script pogrep to find these, mark them fuzzy and inject them 
into the original PO files - but still a hack in my mind.  Not all 
failing checks should be fuzzy, I reserve that for checks that break things.


The checks in Pootle are not actually written in Pootle but in the 
Translate Toolkit which is why you can run them against your PO files 
outside of Pootle.  We already use a scheme for marking these when we 
use pofilter on the command line.  Maybe that is an approach that should 
be examined, but it would still mean changing Pootle to read these 
comments when it finds them in a PO file.


Marking something fuzzy doesn't push it into a class of error with a 
specific agenda to fix.  So I can't go through errors of type X.  I will 
get all my fuzzy strings together in one lump with only a comment (which 
I must also now delete) to distinguish it from a proper fuzzy.


It has been my aim to make sure these checks cover gsicheck 100% as then 
for a Pootle user Pootle becomes the right place to fix these errors.  
They then don't need to decipher gsicheck output which is difficult.  
Pootle has a special openoffice checker that it gets from the Translate 
Tolkit so it is possible to write anything that is needed and then also 
doesn't depend on Pootle.


So either the checks are written to be a proper Translate Toolkit check 
so that it can show directly in Pootle, ideal (Unfortunately we haven't 
had any Oracle devs contribute changes to the checks so don't hold your 
breath). Or we have some way for outside checks to report their errors 
to Pootle and mark units for review.


Programmers will do anything as quickly as they can.  Us localisers 
accept what we get which is why we're reading SDF snippets and strange 
error output.  We spend quite a bit of time interpreting the results, we 
don't complain.  I think there is a better solution that would mean that 
we can translate instead of pretend we're programmers as we interpret 
SDF output.


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[l10n-dev] Re: Pootle updated, milestone OOO340m0

2011-04-21 Thread Alexandro Colorado
2011/4/21 Serg Bormant 

> Hi, Frank,
>
> > No further action needed, thank you
>
> You reverted fix for
> http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=112478 in Russian, this
> is diff with before (a) and after (b):
>
> --- a/sw/source/ui/utlui.po
> +++ b/sw/source/ui/utlui.po
> @@ -1314,7 +1314,7 @@
>  #: poolfmt.src#STR_POOLCOLL_DOC_TITEL.string.text
>  msgctxt "poolfmt.src#STR_POOLCOLL_DOC_TITEL.string.text"
>  msgid "Title"
> -msgstr "Заглавие"
> +msgstr "Заголовок"
>
> Why?
>
> This is not first time, when you ruined work of Russian team (last
> time 6035 lines of CUI was cleared without backup).
> Who can guarantee no damage to the other languages?
>
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AFAIK, pootle seemed to be now version control so all changes can be
reverted.

I wonder however if you can get the version tree for a local reversion of
it.

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[l10n-dev] Re: Pootle updated, milestone OOO340m0

2011-04-21 Thread Serg Bormant
Hi, Frank,

> No further action needed, thank you

You reverted fix for
http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=112478 in Russian, this
is diff with before (a) and after (b):

--- a/sw/source/ui/utlui.po
+++ b/sw/source/ui/utlui.po
@@ -1314,7 +1314,7 @@
 #: poolfmt.src#STR_POOLCOLL_DOC_TITEL.string.text
 msgctxt "poolfmt.src#STR_POOLCOLL_DOC_TITEL.string.text"
 msgid "Title"
-msgstr "Заглавие"
+msgstr "Заголовок"

Why?

This is not first time, when you ruined work of Russian team (last
time 6035 lines of CUI was cleared without backup).
Who can guarantee no damage to the other languages?

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