Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [qa-dev] Re: [l10n-dev] IMPORTANT: L10n Testing Schedule for 3.2.1

[Olav Dahlum]

On 30/04/10 10:01, Rafaella Braconi wrote:
> Hi Sophie,
>
> Sophie ha scritto:
>> Hi Rafaella, all,
>> Rafaella Braconi wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> all translations received so far have been integrated into the CWS
>>> OOO321|l10n4 . Ivo is creating the l10n CWS builds which should be
>>> available by today (a separate announcement will be posted to the
>>> lists as soon as the CWS l10n builds are available).
>>>
>>> All N-L teams, who have contributed back translations - via Pootle
>>> or via Issue - are invited to perform a sanity check on the l10n CWS
>>> builds to verify if their translations have been merged correctly
>>> and if the builds run as expected. This is really important
>>> especially to minimize the risk to introduce show stoppers into the
>>> master.
>>>
>>> If you use TCM
>>> <http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:8001/tcm2/opensource/tcm_login.cgi?tcm_config=newooo>
>>> to perform testing, please perform the test cases included in the
>>> Release Sanity Check scenario
>>> If you don't use TCM, you can find a description of the steps to
>>> follow to perform Sanity check at:
>>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Sanity_Check_Of_L10n_Builds#What_is_a_sanity_check
>>>
>>>
>>> Once you have performed the Sanity Check, all we need from you is a
>>> GO or a NOGO indicating the major issues found (in the latter case
>>> the sooner the better)
>>> We need the GO/NOGO from you by Monday, May 3rd COB.
>>
>> This is a very very short timeframe, we are under pressure again
>> either for localization and for QA.
> I understand, but this is only a sanity check to discover major issues
> and this is after integrating the second round of translation which
> was a small volume one
>
> Kind Regards,
> Rafaella
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Any translation fixes done now will get into the next builds right? We
have yet to confirm whether the current build is technically sane, but
I've implemented some fixes for typo's here which have to be included.

Regards,

Olav Dahlum
On behalf of Norwegian Bokmål

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [qa-dev] Re: [l10n-dev] IMPORTANT: L10n Testing Schedule for 3.2.1

[Olav Dahlum]

On 30/04/10 15:06, Rafaella Braconi wrote:
> Hi Olav,
>>
>> Any translation fixes done now will get into the next builds right?
> not automatically any more. If the fixes are critical please attach
> them to the issue requesting integration.
>
> Regards,
> Rafaella
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Ok, will do that as soon as it can be vouched for in my testbuild.

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Re: [l10n-dev] IMPORTANT: L10n Testing Schedule for 3.2.1

[Olav Dahlum]

>> Dear All,
>>
>> all translations received so far have been integrated into the CWS
>> OOO321|l10n4 . Ivo is creating the l10n CWS builds which should be
>> available by today (a separate announcement will be posted to the lists
>> as soon as the CWS l10n builds are available).
>>
>> All N-L teams, who have contributed back translations - via Pootle or
>> via Issue - are invited to perform a sanity check on the l10n CWS builds
>> to verify if their translations have been merged correctly and if the
>> builds run as expected. This is really important especially to minimize
>> the risk to introduce show stoppers into the master.
>>
>> If you use TCM
>> <http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:8001/tcm2/opensource/tcm_login.cgi?tcm_config=newooo>
>>
>> to perform testing, please perform the test cases included in the
>> Release Sanity Check scenario
>> If you don't use TCM, you can find a description of the steps to follow
>> to perform Sanity check at:
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Sanity_Check_Of_L10n_Builds#What_is_a_sanity_check
>>
>>
>>
>> Once you have performed the Sanity Check, all we need from you is a GO
>> or a NOGO indicating the major issues found (in the latter case the
>> sooner the better)
>> We need the GO/NOGO from you by Monday, May 3rd COB.
>>
>> If any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Rafaella
>>
>>
>
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You have a GO for Norwegian Bokmål.

Sincerly,

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Re: [l10n-dev] Kubota-san JA translation coordinator has been resigned.

[Olav Dahlum]

On 21/05/10 02:41, Maho NAKATA wrote:
>
> I need a coordinator of the translation. Now JA team has many good 
> translators.
>
> Thanks!
> -- Nakata Maho http://accc.riken.jp/maho/ , JA OOO http://ja.openoffice.org/
> http://blog.goo.ne.jp/nakatamaho/ ,GPG: http://accc.riken.jp/maho/maho.pgp.txt
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Hi.

Who's the most skilled, seasoned, knowledgeable and enthusiastic among
them? That's probably the best suited person to take on the role as
coordinator. Also, look at this work model:
http://www.communitywiki.org/en/DoOcracy for further inspiration.

Regards,

Olav Dahlum
- Of the Norwegian Bokmål Team.

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Re: [l10n-dev] IMPORTANT: OpenOffice.org 3.2.1 Release Candidate 2 - Sanity Check

[Olav Dahlum]

Norwegian Bokmål: GO.

Regards,
Olav

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Re: [l10n-dev] Translation of the new Thank YOU page

[Olav Dahlum]

On 11/06/10 18:02, Rafaella Braconi wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> the new Thank YOU page
>  is now online
> and ready to be translated - for all the ones who would like to see it
> in their language.
> The *Thank YOU page* is displayed by the the OpenOffice.org update
> notifications. When an OpenOffice.org user gets notified that there is
> a new version available, during the product download, the browser
> opens and displays the Thank YOU page.
> I've created a wiki page with a few instructions on how to proceed to
> translate this page at:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_ThankYou_Page
>
> Kind Regards,
> Rafaella
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Norwegian translation.

http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=112332

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Olav

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[l10n-dev] Some of the templates seems to be broken.

[Olav Dahlum]

Hi list.

I seem to be running into problems with the 3.3 m0 templates here. File
> Properties... > Security

"Note: After a password is set..."

The first line is present in the .sdf file, but where's the rest of it?
oo2po also seems unable to extract the part of it that exist from the .sdf.
Didn't work out well for me in m83 or m84 either... Anyone else with the
same problems?

Please take this into consideration at the upcoming release meeting 3.00 PM.

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Olav

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Re: [l10n-dev] Some of the templates seems to be broken.

[Olav Dahlum]

On 13/07/10 10:14, Khoem Sokhem wrote:
> I have the similar problems with that (m84).
>
> The gsicheck reports errors but I when I check the tanslation files and 
> notice 
> that the tags in source file and translation files are the same.
>
> Thanks,
> Sokhem
>
>   
>> I seem to be running into problems with the 3.3 m0 templates here. File
>>
>> 
>>> Properties... > Security
>>>   
>> "Note: After a password is set..."
>>
>> The first line is present in the .sdf file, but where's the rest of it?
>> oo2po also seems unable to extract the part of it that exist from the .sdf.
>> Didn't work out well for me in m83 or m84 either... Anyone else with the
>> same problems?
>>
>> Please take this into consideration at the upcoming release meeting 3.00
>> PM.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Olav
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False positives from gsicheck is quite normal, but when the strings
aren't extracted or in the wrong places, it poses a real problem with
releases. I tend you notice these things as I've made my own builds for
a while now.

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Re: [l10n-dev] Translation trables for Bulgarian

[Olav Dahlum]

On 14/07/10 10:28, Rafaella Braconi wrote:
> Hi Hristo,
>
> did you get an answer to your question? May be Pavel can help?
>
> Rafaella
>
Pavel's:

http://svn.skolelinux.org/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=skolelinux&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fi18n%2Fopenoffice%2Fpo%2FOpenOffice.org-OOO330_m0-POT.tar.gz

If they don't add up,
http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/extended/ooomisc/sdf/ and
extract POT's with oo2po.

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Olav

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Re: [l10n-dev] String translation Q

[Olav Dahlum]

On 15/07/10 23:56, Hristo Hristov wrote:
> Hi,
> In file 
> sdext/source/minimizer/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/extension.po 
> exists this string:
> %origin%/../../../../../../help/help_en-US.odt
>
> How we have to translate this one?
> Regards,
>   
Looks like a variable to me, leave it for now.

Olav

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Re: [l10n-dev] String translation Q

[Olav Dahlum]

On 16/07/10 09:04, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> On 07/15/10 23:56, Hristo Hristov wrote:
>> In file
>> sdext/source/minimizer/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/extension.po
>> exists this string:
>> %origin%/../../../../../../help/help_en-US.odt
>>
>> How we have to translate this one?
>
> That item apparently originates form
> sdext/source/minimizer/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/extension.xcu
> line
>
>   xml:lang="en-US">%origin%/../../../../../../help/help_en-US.odt
>
> That line describes that, for en-US, the relevant help data for the
> presentation minimizer extension is stored in a help_en-US.odt file
> somewhere else within the extension.
>
> How this needs to be handled for another locale largely depends on
> whether the extension will include such a help file specific to that
> other locale, too.  Ivo or Sven might know.
>
> -Stephan
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The "sdext/source/minimizer/help/component.txt" file needs to be
localized if the extension descriptor should follow whatever OOo itself
is configured to use. I dunno why the .odt files are present, when
they're clearly not used for anything. Take a look at the PDF importer
and Presentation Console. Both also part of the source tree, see the
difference?

-Olav

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Re: [l10n-dev] String translation Q

[Olav Dahlum]

On 16/07/10 13:03, Ivo Hinkelmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 16.07.2010 11:20, Olav Dahlum wrote:
>>>
>>>   >> xml:lang="en-US">%origin%/../../../../../../help/help_en-US.odt
>>>
>> The "sdext/source/minimizer/help/component.txt" file needs to be
>> localized if the extension descriptor should follow whatever OOo itself
>> is configured to use. I dunno why the .odt files are present, when
>> they're clearly not used for anything. Take a look at the PDF importer
>> and Presentation Console. Both also part of the source tree, see the
>> difference?
>
> the dev's did not use *.xhp files for help but a odt file. Maybe this
> can be changed in the near future.
>
> As long as there is no help_.odt file for your lang then
> leave it to the en-US one.
>
> Cheers,
> Ivo
>

Thanks for the clarification Ivo. I noticed that the files I'm working
on have copied the msgid, so for time being it stays that way.

Regards,

Olav

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Re: [l10n-dev] unlocalisable string in cui\source\dialogs\passwdomdlg.src

[Olav Dahlum]

 On 03/08/10 14:43, Andras Timar wrote:

Hi,

Is this a known problem?
http://bug.openscope.org/secure/attachment/10056/fajl-tulajdonsagok.png
See the English text there. It is not extracted fully into the SDF file.
Only a part of it can be found.
passwdomdlg.src#RID_DLG_PASSWORD_TO_OPEN_MODIFY.FT_PASSWD_NOTE
"Note: After a password has been set, the document will only open with"

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Yep, it was reported in the bugtracker a while ago.

-Olav

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Re: [l10n-dev] Language packs for OOo 3.3 Beta

[Olav Dahlum]

 On 06/08/10 12:47, Serg Bormant wrote:
> Hi Vladimir,
>
> 2010/8/6 Vladimir Glazounov :
>
>> I uploaded fixed key ID builds.
> Thank you for your work.
>
> Can you upload there set of .po files this build was create with? We
> need it to locate msgid, msgctx or #: comments by hash in msgstr.
> If not, may be SDF or full podebug command (or another way to get the
> same hashes) will be helpful.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Err, can't you use? http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/oo2po
POT are really just PO's intended to be the templates. from which new
languages are added.
Also, http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/extended/ooomisc/sdf/

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Re: [l10n-dev] For POOTLE / TCM Users [Fwd: [l10n-tools] Aug 9 - sunvirtuallab.com planned outage]

[Olav Dahlum]

 On 06/08/10 15:03, Paolo Pozzan wrote:
> Scrive Andre Schnabel :
>
>> Hi Thorsten,
>>
>>  Original-Nachricht 
>>> Datum: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:27:03 +0200
>>> Von: Thorsten Ziehm 
>>> An: dev@l10n.openoffice.org
>>> Betreff: Re: [l10n-dev] For POOTLE / TCM Users [Fwd: [l10n-tools] Aug 9 -
>> sunvirtuallab.com planned outage]
>>
>>> Reminder 
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Pootle was updated with m3. Please try to update your translation
>>> files before the down time.
>> Why? Translation delivery is Aug. 19th.
>> So - I agree, that we should try to get our translations in better now
>> than later, but there is no need to hurry (and risk low quality).
>>
>> At the other hand I see no reason to get ~20 Strings translated, when
>> only one was requested as bugfix. We had UI freeze, it is *not* my
>> duty to fix UI changes that other people introduced. (I'll do it,
>> just because I do not want that such bugs are presented to the end user).
> I second that.
> For Italian the situation is even worst: ~700 fuzzy words in UI + ~1k fuzzy
> words in Help with changes on file that were edited in the meantime... (Does
> s/b mention there was changes also in Help files?)
> 20 strings are ok, but this is not acceptable. No more free weekends for me
> until 19th august :-(
>
> Paolo
>
>
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For crying out loud boys, this was what you accepted when entering the
development cycle. If you can't finish it all in time by yourself,
prioritize the important bits or get more people to join the effort.
Don't expect everything to go smoothly and save yourself from the
disappointment...

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[l10n-dev] If anyone's missing a Norwegian translation.

[Olav Dahlum]

 Well, I have a file to download. It should follow the 3.3 m4 strings.

http://login.kristshell.net/~olorin/GSI_nb.sdf.bz2

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Re: [l10n-dev] Tooltips not localizable?

[Olav Dahlum]

 On 19/08/10 15:21, Ivo Hinkelmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
>> OK, I have now an updated sdf file, what should I do with my issue?
>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113945
>>
>> I will upload the new file to the link the issue links to, but maybe
>> it will
>> be too late. Brrr.
>
> Martin your updated file will make it into the current l10n cws
> already, I asked VG to download again
>
> Cheers,
> Ivo


Ok, eventually got it right...

http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/71211/nb_NO.sdf

Sorry for the multiple uploads, I'm not completely awake here. :-)

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Olav

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Re: [l10n-dev] how many strings for 3.3 ?

[Olav Dahlum]

 On 19/08/10 22:00, Lior Kaplan wrote:
> I tried to find out what is the status of the Hebrew UI translation
> comparing to other languages on the pootle servers.
>
> I found out that each language has different number in the total strings in
> the pootle server.
>
> chinise has 105835 strings, Hungarian 91812, Arabic 91430, Portuguese
> 91408...
> 21 other languages have 90654 strings while Assamese has 193710 (!) strings.
>
> and my question is WTF ?! Doesn't the UI have a fixed number of strings ?
>
> p.s.
> While translating I also found a lot of similar strings with difference only
> in the location of ~ in the string.
> I think I translated automatic at least 10 times (~automatic, a~utomatic,
> aut~omatic ...).
> I don't believe it's relevant for all languages.
>
> Kaplan
>

Yes, the amount should be fixed, so what's going on... Could be
incorrectly merged files, missing ones, etc. Or the Pootle statistics is
plain wrong.
Regarding the identical strings; hopefully these can be reused more in
future releases, but that would mean rewriting parts of the source code,
which probably isn't high on the list for this issue.

-Olav.

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[l10n-dev] Norwegian on Pootle.

[Olav Dahlum]

Hi.

I think it's time for Norwegian to be imported in Pootle as well.

-Olav

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Re: [l10n-dev] Czech language for Pootle (Was: Re: [l10n-dev] Norwegian on Pootle.)

[Olav Dahlum]

On 24/01/11 12:13, Pavel Janík wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 24.1.2011, at 11:51, Olav Dahlum wrote:
>
>> I think it's time for Norwegian to be imported in Pootle as well.
>
> yes. Now we are at the end of one stable branch, let's move our
> languages to Pootle!
>
> Czech is going to be migrated to Pootle as well now, Adam (xrambous)
> will do the work.
>
> Thanks.

Well, some changes before 3.4 doesn't hurt...

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[l10n-dev] Access to Norwegian Bokmål in Pootle.

[Olav Dahlum]

Hi.

I need full access to Norwegian Bokmål, and preferably Nynorsk as well
for now.
My username is "olorin".

Sincerly,

Olav Dahlum

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Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org 3.3 - PLS approve and request language versions

[Olav Dahlum]

On 02/02/11 14:48, Rafaella Braconi wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> this is a reminder that February 10th is the deadline to approve the
> OpenOffice 3.3 RC10 builds vs language packs and request distribution
> over the mirror network.
> Please do let me know if you cannot meet this deadline.
> 
> In the meanwhile  thank you to all the Community members who have
> already done this!
> 
> Rafaella
> 
> Il 26.01.2011 16:57, Rafaella Braconi ha scritto:
>> This is a call for action for all native-language teams!
>>
>> Yesterday, during the OOo release meeting, the RC10 candidate has been
>> approved to be the OOo 3.3 final release.
>>
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ReleaseStatus_Minutes#2011-01-25
>>
>> This means that all native-language teams can now start approving the
>> language builds vs. language packs in QA track
>> and request their distribution over the OOo mirror network by filing
>> an issue.
>>
>> Please note that as QAtrack.services.openoffice.org seems to be down,
>> you can alternatively use http://qatrack.ooodev.org/
>>
>> DEADLINE for QA approval and Distribution request is February 10th,
>> 2011. If you cannot meet this deadline please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rafaella
>>
>>
> 
> 

I haven't been able to test the Norwegian RC's at all. The TCM tests seems
to be unavailable at this point, any suggestions?

-Olav

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