Re: [l10n-dev] Unicode Releases Common Locale Data Repository, Version 1.4
hi Eike there are 2 options that I can see : 1. go with your suggestion, where the localegen tool adds an option to populate fields in the form by reading the data from cldr 2. each CLDR release comes with the OOo XML files already generated from CLDR, which users can download. In this case, users would still need to populate the proprietary OOo XML fields by hand which is not so user friendly, but would be easy to do. I prefer option 1. Alberto : what do you think of this idea ? would you be able to implement this in your tool ? Peter Eike Rathke wrote On 09/26/06 12:35,: Hi Peter, On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 13:29:33 +0100, Peter Nugent wrote: the tools should be avaailble for download from : http://unicode.org/Public/cldr/1.4.0/ where core.zip contains the 1.4 data. the 1.4 tools should also be posted to the same location soon. but for now you can get the latest CVS snapshot of tools and data at : ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/cldr/cldr-repository-daily.tgz Well, yes, I know that data is downloadable and tools may be built from the repository. But this is too cumbersome for localizers who just want to create some locale data for their locale of interest. They need a generate from CLDR or enter data here form similar to the Locale Generator available at http://www.it46.se/localegen/ The CLDR tools are really fine (I appreciate) for the tedious work of locale data audits and merging data from CLDR to OOo, but in the current state are nothing for an end user, which most locale data submitters are to be considered in this context. Encouraging people to generate OOo locale data from data already available at CLDR is hard if using the tools is much harder than creating the data from scratch using other tools. As the it46 generator is already able to generate CLDR data as well, maybe it could be an option to teach it to merge existing CLDR data to a new OOo locale data? Eike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] Unicode Releases Common Locale Data Repository, Version 1.4
Hi Peter, On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 13:29:33 +0100, Peter Nugent wrote: the tools should be avaailble for download from : http://unicode.org/Public/cldr/1.4.0/ where core.zip contains the 1.4 data. the 1.4 tools should also be posted to the same location soon. but for now you can get the latest CVS snapshot of tools and data at : ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/cldr/cldr-repository-daily.tgz Well, yes, I know that data is downloadable and tools may be built from the repository. But this is too cumbersome for localizers who just want to create some locale data for their locale of interest. They need a generate from CLDR or enter data here form similar to the Locale Generator available at http://www.it46.se/localegen/ The CLDR tools are really fine (I appreciate) for the tedious work of locale data audits and merging data from CLDR to OOo, but in the current state are nothing for an end user, which most locale data submitters are to be considered in this context. Encouraging people to generate OOo locale data from data already available at CLDR is hard if using the tools is much harder than creating the data from scratch using other tools. As the it46 generator is already able to generate CLDR data as well, maybe it could be an option to teach it to merge existing CLDR data to a new OOo locale data? Eike -- OOo/SO Calc core developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD: 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] Unicode Releases Common Locale Data Repository, Version 1.4
Eike apologies for the delayed reply, I only saw this now. the tools should be avaailble for download from : http://unicode.org/Public/cldr/1.4.0/ where core.zip contains the 1.4 data. the 1.4 tools should also be posted to the same location soon. but for now you can get the latest CVS snapshot of tools and data at : ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/cldr/cldr-repository-daily.tgz (the Oo.o tools have not changed since the 1.4 release) all CLDR tools are in the cldr/tools/java dir where you will find a readme for building them. the Oo.o tools are in cldr/data/tools/java/org/unicode/cldr/ooo/ which also contains a readme on how to use them. Peter Eike Rathke wrote On 08/30/06 16:07,: Hi Peter, On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 11:24:23 +0100, Peter Nugent wrote: There are tools at the link below for generating new OO.o locale data files from CLDR, which I would encourage people to use when starting a new OO.o locale. Forgive my blindness, but where on the CLDR site may I find such tool? Yes, of course I know that there are the Java tools checked in to the repository we did the comparison and merging between CLDR and OOo with. Just how should a localizer, not being a developer, (a) find them and (b) use them? You can contact me directly for more information. I prefer making information publicly available on the list ;-) Eike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-dev] Unicode Releases Common Locale Data Repository, Version 1.4
hi all, I'm fwding the announcement of the release of cldr 1.4. Many thanks to those of you who participated in contributing data or vetting of data. There are tools at the link below for generating new OO.o locale data files from CLDR, which I would encourage people to use when starting a new OO.o locale. You can contact me directly for more information. thx Peter Unicode Releases Common Locale Data Repository, Version 1.4 Mountain View, CA, July 17, 2006 - The Unicode® Consortium announced today the release of the new version of the Unicode Common Locale Data Repository (CLDR 1.4), providing key building blocks for software to support the world's languages. CLDR is by far the largest and most extensive standard repository of locale data. This data is used by a wide spectrum of companies for their software internationalization and localization: adapting software to the conventions of different languages for such common software tasks as formatting of dates, times, time zones, numbers, and currency values; sorting text; choosing languages or countries by name; and many others. This release of CLDR contains data for 121 languages and 142 territories -- 360 locales in all. Version 1.4 of the repository contains over 25% more locale data than the previous release, with over 17,000 new or modified data items entered by over 100 different contributors. Major contributors to CLDR 1.4 include Apple, Google, IBM, and Sun, plus official representatives from a number of countries. Many other organizations and individuals around the globe have also made important contributions. CLDR 1.4 uses the XML format provided by the newest version of the Locale Data Markup Language (LDML 1.4). LDML is a format used not only for CLDR, but also for general interchange of locale data, such as in Microsoft's .NET. Some of the major features of LDML 1.4 used in the repository include new XML structures supporting customizable detection of words, lines, and sentences (segmentation), transliteration between different alphabets, and full compatibility with the recently approved internet standards for language tags. It also supports enhanced formats for dates and times, and adds new guidelines for date, time, and number parsing. For more information about the CLDR project, see http://www.unicode.org/cldr/ http://www.unicode.org/cldr/ . The latest features of CLDR will also be showcased at the 30th Internationalization and Unicode Conference (IUC) on November 17-19, 2006 in Washington, D.C. -- see http://www.unicodeconference.org/ http://www.unicodeconference.org/ . ### About the Unicode Consortium The Unicode Consortium is a non-profit organization founded to develop, extend and promote use of the Unicode Standard and related globalization standards. The membership of the consortium represents a broad spectrum of corporations and organizations in the computer and information processing industry: Adobe Systems, L'Agence intergouvernementale de la Francophonie, Apple Computer, Basis Technology, Denic e.G., Google, Government of India - Ministry of Information Technology, Government of Pakistan - National Language Authority, HP, IBM, Justsystem, Microsoft, Monotype Imaging, Oracle, SAP, Sun Microsystems, Sybase, The University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo, plus well over a hundred Associate, Liaison, and Individual members. For more information, please contact the Unicode Consortium (http://www.unicode.org/ http://www.unicode.org/ ). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
