Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-09-09 Thread Rafaella Braconi

Dear All,


here below some additional notes on the l10n testing schedule:

please note that all fixes you provide by September 2nd will be 
integrated into the language packs which will be available on 
September 9th. The language packs will be created out of the master. 
This will give you all an additional possibility to test your 
translations and/or corrections. The very last l10n delivery deadline 
for fixes will be September 30th.


Here an overview of the l10n testing deadlines:

*August 25th - September 2nd:* TCM l10n testing on l10n CWS builds. 
Showstoppers should be nominated as soon as found.

*September 2nd*: deadline to provide or make correction in Pootle.
*September 9th*: Language Packs from master build will be made 
available for additional l10n testing
unfortunately, the Language Packs will be available on Monday. Also, 
despite the original plan, they will be CWS language packs based on the 
OOo330l10n3 CWS. The l10n language packs contain the latest l10n fixes 
as well as translated files. Ivo, will let you know as soon as the lang 
packs are available.


Kind Regards,
Rafaella

*September 30th*: Last l10n fixes delivery deadline

Kind Regards,
Rafaella


Dear All,

this is a reminder that builds are available at the below 
location, as announced by Vladimir. Deadline for providing fixes 
is September 2nd. Please make sure to inform the list immediately 
in case of critical issues. In case of possible show stoppers, 
don't hesitate to nominate your issue to the releases list.


For all the ones who would like to test the new features, please 
note that TCM has a special scenario with latest test cases to 
test the new features (thanks Joost!).


Kind Regards,
Rafaella


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Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-09-02 Thread Rafaella Braconi



Serg Bormant ha scritto:

Hi,

2010/8/26 Rafaella Braconi >
 


The very, very last deadline to provide corrections is September
30th. This should give you the possibility to correct as many
errors as possible. Please do let us know via Issue and/or mailing
list to download complete files from Pootle.


Russian translate was updated in Pootle (UI and Help).

Perfect! Thank you!

Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-09-02 Thread Rafaella Braconi

Thank you Lior.

Rafaella


Hebrew had a lot of changes during the last week due to testing we did 
(not through TCM).


I'd like to make sure the pootle  translations will by taken before 
the next build.


Thanks.


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Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-09-02 Thread israt jahan
Hello,

In bn (bengali) language., there are lots of changes needed in both UI and
Help. So we want to work on sdf file and we assure you we will submit
corrected sdf file before 30th September.

Thanks

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Serg Bormant  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 2010/8/26 Rafaella Braconi 
>
>
> > The very, very last deadline to provide corrections is September 30th.
> This
> > should give you the possibility to correct as many errors as possible.
> > Please do let us know via Issue and/or mailing list to download complete
> > files from Pootle.
> >
>
> Russian translate was updated in Pootle (UI and Help).
>
> --
> wbr, sb
>


Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-09-02 Thread Serg Bormant
Hi,

2010/8/26 Rafaella Braconi 


> The very, very last deadline to provide corrections is September 30th. This
> should give you the possibility to correct as many errors as possible.
> Please do let us know via Issue and/or mailing list to download complete
> files from Pootle.
>

Russian translate was updated in Pootle (UI and Help).

-- 
wbr, sb


Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-08-26 Thread Rafaella Braconi

Dear All,

here below some additional notes on the l10n testing schedule:

please note that all fixes you provide by September 2nd will be 
integrated into the language packs which will be available on September 
9th. The language packs will be created out of the master. This will 
give you all an additional possibility to test your translations and/or 
corrections. The very last l10n delivery deadline for fixes will be 
September 30th.


Here an overview of the l10n testing deadlines:

*August 25th - September 2nd:* TCM l10n testing on l10n CWS builds. 
Showstoppers should be nominated as soon as found.

*September 2nd*: deadline to provide or make correction in Pootle.
*September 9th*: Language Packs from master build will be made available 
for additional l10n testing

*September 30th*: Last l10n fixes delivery deadline

Kind Regards,
Rafaella


Dear All,

this is a reminder that builds are available at the below location, 
as announced by Vladimir. Deadline for providing fixes is September 
2nd. Please make sure to inform the list immediately in case of 
critical issues. In case of possible show stoppers, don't hesitate 
to nominate your issue to the releases list.


For all the ones who would like to test the new features, please 
note that TCM has a special scenario with latest test cases to test 
the new features (thanks Joost!).


Kind Regards,
Rafaella



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Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-08-26 Thread Rafaella Braconi




Hi Jordi,

On 25.08.10 22:01, Jordi Serratosa wrote:
 El
25/08/2010 17:58, en/na Santiago Bosio ha escrit:
  
  Rafaella Braconi escribió:

Dear All,
  
  
this is a reminder that builds are available at the below location, as
announced by Vladimir. Deadline for providing fixes is September 2nd.
Please make sure to inform the list immediately in case of critical
issues. In case of possible show stoppers, don't hesitate to nominate
your issue to the releases list.
  
  
For all the ones who would like to test the new features, please note
that TCM has a special scenario with latest test cases to test the new
features (thanks Joost!).
  
  
Kind Regards,
  
Rafaella
  

Rafaella:


I just need a clarification here. The fixes that we can provide until
september 2nd. need to be notified by entering issues, or can we just
correct the errors on the Pootle server and after the deadline you will
capture a new snapshot for the final translation?

  
I'm wondering the same.
  
In case of Catalan, we rushed to get to the 100% translated in ordre to
meet the deadline.
  
I have a looong list of changes to do, including correcting
mistranslations, spell&grammar mistakes, ensuring translation
consistency throughout the product, etc.
  
  
To make things worse: in the previous 3.2.1 release I was correcting
hundreds of the aforementioned mistakes. When the strings were updated
in Pootle for 3.3, I found to my dispair that LOTS of my corrections
were rolled back. My take is that the obsolete strings in .po (marked
with #~) were to blame. In my global QA for 3.2.1, obviously I didn't
take into account the obsolete strings. Apparently, when updating the
strings, Pootle (well, I guess it was Translate Toolkit) preferred to
take the obsolete strings as translation instead of the actual newer
reviewed string. It probably has to do with the update process not
"reusing" the strings (even with the same string ID) when they have
been moved to another file (which I seem to remember it was reported
here not long ago).
  
Anyway, for whatever reason it happened and it adds to the things in my
list to correct for 3.3.
  
  
Getting back to the topic: If you tell us that the Pootle files will be
all "picked up" again for the upcoming 3.3 release, I'd take the time
to try to fix as many errors as possible within the deadline. In this
case, please specify if this deadline is the latest opportunity we have
to change files in pootle or there will be other builds in the future.
  
If you tell us that only major fixes (though issues) will be addressed,
I'll leave it for the next release.
  

The very, very last deadline to provide corrections is September 30th.
This should give you the possibility to correct as many errors as
possible. Please do let us know via Issue and/or mailing list to
download complete files from Pootle.

Hope this helps!

Rafaella
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Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-08-26 Thread Rafaella Braconi




Hi Santiago,

On 25.08.10 17:58, Santiago Bosio wrote:
Rafaella
Braconi escribió:
  
  Dear All,


this is a reminder that builds are available at the below location, as
announced by Vladimir. Deadline for providing fixes is September 2nd.
Please make sure to inform the list immediately in case of critical
issues. In case of possible show stoppers, don't hesitate to nominate
your issue to the releases list.


For all the ones who would like to test the new features, please note
that TCM has a special scenario with latest test cases to test the new
features (thanks Joost!).


Kind Regards,

Rafaella

  
Rafaella:
  
  
I just need a clarification here. The fixes that we can provide until
september 2nd. need to be notified by entering issues, or can we just
correct the errors on the Pootle server and after the deadline you will
capture a new snapshot for the final translation?
  

please do correct them in pootle directly. We will pick up again the
translations. A short notice to the list that you have updated Pootle
is welcome :-) .

Thanks,
Rafaella

Best regards,
  
  
Santiago
  
  
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ORACLE
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ORACLE
Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG
Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25,
D-80992 München
Registergericht: Amtsgericht München,
HRA 95603

Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung
B.V.
Rijnzathe 6, 3454PV De Meern, Niederlande
Handelsregister
der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697
Geschäftsführer:
Jürgen Kunz, Marcel van de Molen, Alexander van der Ven 


  

  
  
  
  
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Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-08-25 Thread Jordi Serratosa

 El 25/08/2010 17:58, en/na Santiago Bosio ha escrit:

Rafaella Braconi escribió:

Dear All,

this is a reminder that builds are available at the below location, 
as announced by Vladimir. Deadline for providing fixes is September 
2nd. Please make sure to inform the list immediately in case of 
critical issues. In case of possible show stoppers, don't hesitate to 
nominate your issue to the releases list.


For all the ones who would like to test the new features, please note 
that TCM has a special scenario with latest test cases to test the 
new features (thanks Joost!).


Kind Regards,
Rafaella

Rafaella:

I just need a clarification here. The fixes that we can provide until 
september 2nd. need to be notified by entering issues, or can we just 
correct the errors on the Pootle server and after the deadline you 
will capture a new snapshot for the final translation?

I'm wondering the same.
In case of Catalan, we rushed to get to the 100% translated in ordre to 
meet the deadline.
I have a looong list of changes to do, including correcting 
mistranslations, spell&grammar mistakes, ensuring translation 
consistency throughout the product, etc.


To make things worse: in the previous 3.2.1 release I was correcting 
hundreds of the aforementioned mistakes. When the strings were updated 
in Pootle for 3.3, I found to my dispair that LOTS of my corrections 
were rolled back. My take is that the obsolete strings in .po (marked 
with #~) were to blame. In my global QA for 3.2.1, obviously I didn't 
take into account the obsolete strings. Apparently, when updating the 
strings, Pootle (well, I guess it was Translate Toolkit) preferred to 
take the obsolete strings as translation instead of the actual newer 
reviewed string. It probably has to do with the update process not 
"reusing" the strings (even with the same string ID) when they have been 
moved to another file (which I seem to remember it was reported here not 
long ago).
Anyway, for whatever reason it happened and it adds to the things in my 
list to correct for 3.3.


Getting back to the topic: If you tell us that the Pootle files will be 
all "picked up" again for the upcoming 3.3 release, I'd take the time to 
try to fix as many errors as possible within the deadline. In this case, 
please specify if this deadline is the latest opportunity we have to 
change files in pootle or there will be other builds in the future.
If you tell us that only major fixes (though issues) will be addressed, 
I'll leave it for the next release.


Finally, I do not really understand how the deadline is scheduled for 
the middle of the Oooconf next week! Those of us attending will be 
missing 4 days! Couldn't it be moved to after oooconf?


salut
jordi s

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Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-08-25 Thread Paolo Pozzan
In data mercoledì 25 agosto 2010 16:47:09, Rafaella Braconi ha scritto:
[cut]
> For all the ones who would like to test the new features, please note
> that TCM has a special scenario with latest test cases to test the
> new features (thanks Joost!).

About this, we translated in italian the TCM tests for 3.3 and uploaded 
them to pootle. Can someone please take care of importing the 
translation into the system? Thanks.

Paolo

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Re: [l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-08-25 Thread Santiago Bosio

Rafaella Braconi escribió:

Dear All,

this is a reminder that builds are available at the below location, as 
announced by Vladimir. Deadline for providing fixes is September 2nd. 
Please make sure to inform the list immediately in case of critical 
issues. In case of possible show stoppers, don't hesitate to nominate 
your issue to the releases list.


For all the ones who would like to test the new features, please note 
that TCM has a special scenario with latest test cases to test the new 
features (thanks Joost!).


Kind Regards,
Rafaella

Rafaella:

I just need a clarification here. The fixes that we can provide until 
september 2nd. need to be notified by entering issues, or can we just 
correct the errors on the Pootle server and after the deadline you will 
capture a new snapshot for the final translation?


Best regards,

Santiago

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[l10n-dev] L10n Testing: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - August 25th - September 2nd

2010-08-25 Thread Rafaella Braconi

Dear All,

this is a reminder that builds are available at the below location, as 
announced by Vladimir. Deadline for providing fixes is September 2nd. 
Please make sure to inform the list immediately in case of critical 
issues. In case of possible show stoppers, don't hesitate to nominate 
your issue to the releases list.


For all the ones who would like to test the new features, please note 
that TCM has a special scenario with latest test cases to test the new 
features (thanks Joost!).


Kind Regards,
Rafaella

On 08/25/10 10:03, Vladimir Glazunov wrote:

Hi all,

the CWS ooo330l10n2 is 'ready for QA', the install sets and language 
sets are uploaded to 
http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/cws/upload/localization/ooo330l10n2 



The languages provided: ar as ast be-BY bg bn bo ca-XV ca cs da de dz 
el es eu fi fr gl gu he hu id is it ja ka kid km kn ko ku lt lv ml mr 
my nb nl oc om or pa-IN pl pt-BR pt ru sh si sk sl sq sr sv ta te th 
tr ug uk uz vi zh-CN zh-TW.


The platforms provided: Solaris Sparc, Solaris x86, linux x86, linux 
x86_64, Windows x86


Key ID builds available here: 
http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/cws/upload/localization/ooo330l10n2/kid 



Best regards,

Vladimir

PS: have been written, there are only languagepacks for UNIXes, (and 
one en-US installation set is provided.





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