Re: [l10n-dev] Locales with LocaleGen and CLDR

2006-03-06 Thread peter nugent - Sun Microsystems - Dublin Ireland

Alberto
great, let me know if you have any issues with the tools.

hmm, never came across a 4 day week before, is a new calendar type 
required here also ?


Peter

Alberto Escudero Pascual wrote:


Hi Peter,

I have now over half a dozen of locales of people that have used the
http://www.it46.se/localegen tool that we will like to send into OOo and
CLDR. 


I will try to get up and running the "converter tool" from the CVS and
send you the locales in "cldr" format.

I have one issue regarding "Igbo", their calendar has 4 days in a week.
How should i address their calendar both in OOo and CLDR?

If any other groups want to submit new locales please refer to the
"Localgen", i will try to push them into CLDR if we get them via ther
tool before Wednesday 13.00 PM (GMT) next week

Alberto

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Re: [l10n-dev] Locales with LocaleGen and CLDR

2006-03-07 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Alberto,

On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 11:28:45 +0100, Alberto Escudero Pascual wrote:

> I have one issue regarding "Igbo", their calendar has 4 days in a week.
> How should i address their calendar both in OOo and CLDR?

That would need a new calendar implementation. Currently it can't be
handled. For the locale data format alone it doesn't matter, it is just
a sequence of days, but apart from the calendar there are probably many
places in the code that simply assume 7 days a week. Changing that would
be quite some effort, I guess.

  Eike

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Re: [l10n-dev] Locales with LocaleGen and CLDR

2006-03-07 Thread Alberto Escudero Pascual

Hi Eike,

I have checked the .dtd and the element LC_CALENDAR accepts more than
one calendar using unoid=""

In theory i can add a new calendar with four days in a week right?

See example:








1
Eke
Eke


2
Orie
Orie


3
Afo
Afo


4
Nkwo
Nkwo

...



Of course, it is just syntactically correct but "useless" as OOo native
code does not use it. right?

Alberto

On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 15:48 +0100, Eike Rathke wrote:
> Hi Alberto,
> 
> On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 11:28:45 +0100, Alberto Escudero Pascual wrote:
> 
> > I have one issue regarding "Igbo", their calendar has 4 days in a week.
> > How should i address their calendar both in OOo and CLDR?
> 
> That would need a new calendar implementation. Currently it can't be
> handled. For the locale data format alone it doesn't matter, it is just
> a sequence of days, but apart from the calendar there are probably many
> places in the code that simply assume 7 days a week. Changing that would
> be quite some effort, I guess.
> 
>   Eike
> 

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Re: [l10n-dev] Locales with LocaleGen and CLDR

2006-03-07 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Alberto,

On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 18:03:43 +0100, Alberto Escudero Pascual wrote:

> I have checked the .dtd and the element LC_CALENDAR accepts more than
> one calendar using unoid=""

Yes, that is used in several locales, for example ar_*, he_IL, ja_JP

> In theory i can add a new calendar with four days in a week right?

Correct, that's what I was referring in my previous mail with "For the
locale data format alone it doesn't matter, it is just a sequence of
days".

> See example:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

> Of course, it is just syntactically correct but "useless" as OOo native
> code does not use it. right?

Yep. As there is no implementation for the calendar all code trying to
use it should fall back to the Gregorian calendar. Whether that is done
at every place should be QA'ed though..

Btw, is it only Igbo that uses this type of calendar, or are there also
other locales? Is there a general name for it, like Gregorian for the
Christian calendar?

  Eike

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Re: [l10n-dev] Locales with LocaleGen and CLDR

2006-03-12 Thread Jonathon Blake
Eike wrote:

> Btw, is it only Igbo that uses this type of calendar, or are there also other 
> locales?

I don't know who else uses a four day week.

There is archaic calender system that had 14 days to the week.
Another archaic, and equally obscure calender had either 13 day weeks,
or 13 day months.

The Baha'i Calender has 19 months in a year, with each month being 19
days long.

The Thelemic calender does not use months, or days, going by the
position of the Sun, Moon, and ascendant.  Years are in 21 year
cycles, starting from 1904.
[Including that in OOo would be an interesting challenge for somebody.]

xan

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