Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Hi All, When do these projects separate into their own TLP's? What is the timeline? Or is there documentation on the process of splitting an existing project into two separate projects? Best, Marcus On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:51 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > It is now Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 8:46 AM GMT. > > A re-spin of the vote closing/ summary. > > 48 votes have been posted: 37 from PMC members, 8 from committers and > 3 from user community. > > From this total 8 people voted -1 and 40 people voted +1. Vote > distribution among PMC members (binding votes): > > [+1]: 33 > [-1]: 4 > > The vote has passed. > > Dawid > > All collected votes in a spreadsheet: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZmR3C2EgA57QIeJJ3ejKCTUkHdG1lqPOU29heqybkKs/edit?usp=sharing > > And in plain text: > > +1 > > PMC Ishan Chattopadhyaya (ichattopadhy...@gmail.com) > PMC Doron Cohen (cdor...@gmail.com) > PMC Shai Erera (ser...@gmail.com) > PMC Ryan Ernst (r...@iernst.net) > COMMITTER Jim Ferenczi (jim.feren...@gmail.com) > PMC Otis Gospodnetic (otis.gospodne...@gmail.com) > PMC Dennis Gove (dpg...@gmail.com) > PMC Adrien Grand (jpou...@gmail.com) > PMC Martijn v Groningen (martijn.v.gronin...@gmail.com) > PMC Mark Harwood (mharw...@apache.org) > PMC Erik Hatcher (erik.hatc...@gmail.com) > PMC Shawn Heisey (apa...@elyograg.org) > PMC Jan Høydahl (jan@cominvent.com) > COMMITTER Namgyu Kim (kng0...@gmail.com) > PMC Nicholas Knize (nkn...@gmail.com) > PMC Shalin Shekhar Mangar (shalinman...@gmail.com) > PMC Michael McCandless (luc...@mikemccandless.com) > PMC Christian Moen (c...@atilika.com) > -- Gora Mohanty (g...@mimirtech.com) > PMC Robert Muir (rcm...@gmail.com) > PMC Nhat Nguyen (nhat.ngu...@elastic.co.invalid) > PMC Kevin Risden (kris...@apache.org) > PMC Steven A Rowe (sar...@gmail.com) > PMC Uwe Schindler (u...@thetaphi.de) > PMC Koji Sekiguchi (koji.sekigu...@rondhuit.com) > COMMITTER Atri Sharma (a...@apache.org) > -- Lucky Sharma (goku0...@gmail.com) > PMC David Smiley (david.w.smi...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Michael Sokolov (msoko...@gmail.com) > PMC Tommaso Teofili (tommaso.teof...@gmail.com) > PMC Varun Thacker (va...@vthacker.in) > COMMITTER Tomoko Uchida (tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com) > PMC Andi Vajda (o...@ovaltofu.org) > PMC Ignacio Vera (iver...@gmail.com) > PMC Dawid Weiss (dawid.we...@gmail.com) > PMC Simon Willnauer (simon.willna...@gmail.com) > PMC Alan Woodward (romseyg...@gmail.com) > PMC Karl Wright (daddy...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Alexandre Rafalovitch (arafa...@gmail.com) > PMC Andrzej Białecki (a...@getopt.org) > > -1 > > PMC Joel Bernstein (joels...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Mike Drob (md...@apache.org) > PMC Jason Gerlowski (gerlowsk...@gmail.com) > PMC Anshum Gupta (ans...@anshumgupta.net) > COMMITTER Gus Heck (gus.h...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Chris Hostetter (hossman_luc...@fucit.org) > PMC Tomás Fernández Löbbe (tomasflo...@gmail.com) > -- Kevin Watters (kwatt...@kmwllc.com) > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:36 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > > > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > > independent entities. > > > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Congratulations Mike! Regards, Munendra S N On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:52 AM David Smiley wrote: > Welcome Mike! > > ~ David Smiley > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:28 PM Kranti Parisa > wrote: > >> wow, this is great news. Congratulations Mike! >> >> Best, >> Kranti >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 4:04 PM Tomás Fernández Löbbe < >> tomasflo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Welcome Mike!! >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 3:51 PM Martin Gainty >>> wrote: >>> Congratulation Mike! martin -- *From:* Erick Erickson *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 4:55 PM *To:* dev@lucene.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC Welcome Mike! > On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Ilan Ginzburg wrote: > > Congratulations Mike, happy to hear that! > > Ilan > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:56 PM Anshum Gupta wrote: > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's invitation to join. > > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! > > -- > Anshum Gupta - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: Welcome Tomoko Uchida to the PMC
Welcome Tomoko! ~ David On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 4:55 PM Erick Erickson wrote: > Welcome Tomoko! > > > On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Jan Høydahl wrote: > > > > Welcome Tomoko! > > > > Jan Høydahl > > > >> 24. jul. 2020 kl. 19:08 skrev Christine Poerschke (BLOOMBERG/ LONDON) < > cpoersc...@bloomberg.net>: > >> > >> > >> Welcome Tomoko! > >> > >> From: dev@lucene.apache.org At: 07/04/20 08:27:28 > >> To: dev@lucene.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: Welcome Tomoko Uchida to the PMC > >> > >> Thank you Adrien and the whole PMCs, it's a great honour for me! > >> > >> Tomoko > >> > >> > >> 2020年7月4日(土) 15:28 Christian Moen : > >> Congrats, Tomoko-san! > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 15:26 Adrien Grand wrote: > >> I am pleased to announce that Tomoko Uchida has accepted the PMC's > invitation to join. > >> > >> Welcome Tomoko! > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Adrien > >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Welcome Mike! ~ David Smiley Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:28 PM Kranti Parisa wrote: > wow, this is great news. Congratulations Mike! > > Best, > Kranti > > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 4:04 PM Tomás Fernández Löbbe < > tomasflo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Welcome Mike!! >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 3:51 PM Martin Gainty >> wrote: >> >>> Congratulation Mike! >>> martin >>> >>> -- >>> *From:* Erick Erickson >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 4:55 PM >>> *To:* dev@lucene.apache.org >>> *Subject:* Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC >>> >>> Welcome Mike! >>> >>> > On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Ilan Ginzburg wrote: >>> > >>> > Congratulations Mike, happy to hear that! >>> > >>> > Ilan >>> > >>> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:56 PM Anshum Gupta >>> wrote: >>> > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's >>> invitation to join. >>> > >>> > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Anshum Gupta >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >>> >>>
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
wow, this is great news. Congratulations Mike! Best, Kranti On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 4:04 PM Tomás Fernández Löbbe wrote: > Welcome Mike!! > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 3:51 PM Martin Gainty wrote: > >> Congratulation Mike! >> martin >> >> -- >> *From:* Erick Erickson >> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 4:55 PM >> *To:* dev@lucene.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC >> >> Welcome Mike! >> >> > On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Ilan Ginzburg wrote: >> > >> > Congratulations Mike, happy to hear that! >> > >> > Ilan >> > >> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:56 PM Anshum Gupta >> wrote: >> > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's >> invitation to join. >> > >> > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! >> > >> > -- >> > Anshum Gupta >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> >>
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Welcome, Mike! 2020年7月25日(土) 7:52 Martin Gainty : > Congratulation Mike! > martin > > -- > *From:* Erick Erickson > *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 4:55 PM > *To:* dev@lucene.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC > > Welcome Mike! > > > On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Ilan Ginzburg wrote: > > > > Congratulations Mike, happy to hear that! > > > > Ilan > > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:56 PM Anshum Gupta > wrote: > > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's > invitation to join. > > > > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! > > > > -- > > Anshum Gupta > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Welcome Mike!! On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 3:51 PM Martin Gainty wrote: > Congratulation Mike! > martin > > -- > *From:* Erick Erickson > *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 4:55 PM > *To:* dev@lucene.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC > > Welcome Mike! > > > On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Ilan Ginzburg wrote: > > > > Congratulations Mike, happy to hear that! > > > > Ilan > > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:56 PM Anshum Gupta > wrote: > > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's > invitation to join. > > > > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! > > > > -- > > Anshum Gupta > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Congratulation Mike! martin From: Erick Erickson Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 4:55 PM To: dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC Welcome Mike! > On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Ilan Ginzburg wrote: > > Congratulations Mike, happy to hear that! > > Ilan > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:56 PM Anshum Gupta wrote: > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's invitation to > join. > > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! > > -- > Anshum Gupta - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Welcome Mike :-) On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:56 PM Erick Erickson wrote: > Welcome Mike! > > > On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Ilan Ginzburg wrote: > > > > Congratulations Mike, happy to hear that! > > > > Ilan > > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:56 PM Anshum Gupta > wrote: > > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's > invitation to join. > > > > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! > > > > -- > > Anshum Gupta > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [jira] [Commented] (SOLR-14581) Document the way auto commits work in SolrCloud
I made some comments on the PR.
> On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:03 PM, David Eric Pugh (Jira) wrote:
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> David Eric Pugh commented on SOLR-14581:
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> [~bvd][~erickerickson][~dsmiley]I've pushed up a PR for this, I'll give it
> till Monday and then merge: https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/pull/1692
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> I went with David's specific wording.
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>> Document the way auto commits work in SolrCloud
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>>Key: SOLR-14581
>>URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14581
>>Project: Solr
>> Issue Type: Bug
>> Components: documentation, SolrCloud
>> Affects Versions: master (9.0)
>> Reporter: Bram Van Dam
>> Assignee: David Eric Pugh
>> Priority: Minor
>>Attachments: SOLR-14581.patch
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>> Time Spent: 10m
>> Remaining Estimate: 0h
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>> The documentation is unclear about how auto commits actually work in
>> SolrCloud. A mailing list reply by Erick Erickson proved to be enlightening.
>> Erick's reply verbatim:
>> {quote}Each node has its own timer that starts when it receives an update.
>> So in your situation, 60 seconds after any give replica gets it’s first
>> update, all documents that have been received in the interval will
>> be committed.
>> But note several things:
>> 1> commits will tend to cluster for a given shard. By that I mean
>>they’ll tend to happen within a few milliseconds of each other
>> ‘cause it doesn’t take that long for an update to get from the
>> leader to all the followers.
>> 2> this is per replica. So if you host replicas from multiple collections
>> on some node, their commits have no relation to each other. And
>> say for some reason you transmit exactly one document that lands
>> on shard1. Further, say nodeA contains replicas for shard1 and shard2.
>> Only the replica for shard1 would commit.
>> 3> Solr promises eventual consistency. In this case, due to all the
>> timing variables it is not guaranteed that every replica of a single
>> shard has the same document available for search at any given time.
>> Say doc1 hits the leader at time T and a follower at time T+10ms.
>> Say doc2 hits the leader and gets indexed 5ms before the
>> commit is triggered, but for some reason it takes 15ms for it to get
>> to the follower. The leader will be able to search doc2, but the
>> follower won’t until 60 seconds later.{quote}
>> Perhaps the subject deserves a section of its own, but I'll attach a patch
>> which includes the gist of Erick's reply as a Tip in the "indexing in
>> SolrCloud"-section.
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Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Welcome Mike! > On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Ilan Ginzburg wrote: > > Congratulations Mike, happy to hear that! > > Ilan > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:56 PM Anshum Gupta wrote: > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's invitation to > join. > > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! > > -- > Anshum Gupta - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: Welcome Tomoko Uchida to the PMC
Welcome Tomoko! > On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Jan Høydahl wrote: > > Welcome Tomoko! > > Jan Høydahl > >> 24. jul. 2020 kl. 19:08 skrev Christine Poerschke (BLOOMBERG/ LONDON) >> : >> >> >> Welcome Tomoko! >> >> From: dev@lucene.apache.org At: 07/04/20 08:27:28 >> To: dev@lucene.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Welcome Tomoko Uchida to the PMC >> >> Thank you Adrien and the whole PMCs, it's a great honour for me! >> >> Tomoko >> >> >> 2020年7月4日(土) 15:28 Christian Moen : >> Congrats, Tomoko-san! >> >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 15:26 Adrien Grand wrote: >> I am pleased to announce that Tomoko Uchida has accepted the PMC's >> invitation to join. >> >> Welcome Tomoko! >> >> >> -- >> Adrien >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: 8.6.1 Release
So it looks like we all agree that 8.6.1 should be cut to fix this issue. Unless there's any alternatives proposed, early next week I'm going to push my branch_8_6 that has the offending commits reverted and some additional documentation on reverting the defaulted autoscaling policy from 8.6.0. Then I'll start the release process for 8.6.1. Please speak up if there is any disagreement. - Houston On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 4:40 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Absolutely, Ilan! Good idea. I initially hesitated in doing so because > Andrzej had a workaround in mind for them, so I thought it would be better > if he did this. But, it makes sense to inform them of the issue right away > anyway. > > On Wed, 22 Jul, 2020, 11:42 pm Ilan Ginzburg, wrote: > >> Shouldn't we add a note right away to 8.6 notifying of the issue? >> >> Le mer. 22 juil. 2020 à 20:08, Atri Sharma a écrit : >> >>> +1, thanks Houston. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 10:51 PM Houston Putman >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > If we agree that this warrants a patch release, I volunteer to do the >>> release. >>> > >>> > I do think a patch release is reasonable even if users have to take an >>> action when upgrading from 8.6.0. I imagine most users haven't upgraded to >>> 8.6.0 yet, so if we make the patch now we will make life easier for >>> everyone that upgrades between now and when 8.7 is released. >>> > >>> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 12:50 PM Atri Sharma wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Ignore this, I misread your email. >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 9:11 PM Atri Sharma wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > Should we not revert the change so that users upgrading from 8.6 to >>> >> > 8.6.1 get the earlier default policy? >>> >> > >>> >> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 9:09 PM Houston Putman < >>> houstonput...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> > > >>> >> > > +1 >>> >> > > >>> >> > > Question about the change. Since this patch added a default >>> autoscaling policy, if users upgrade to 8.6 and then 8.6.1, does the >>> default autoscaling policy stay once they have upgraded? If so we probably >>> want to include instructions in the release notes on how to fix this issue >>> once upgrading. >>> >> > > >>> >> > > - Houston >>> >> > > >>> >> > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 1:53 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < >>> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> Hi, >>> >> > >> There was a performance regression identified in 8.6.0 release >>> due to SOLR-12845. I think it is serious enough to warrant an immediate bug >>> fix release. >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> I propose a 8.6.1 release. Unfortunately, I'll be unable to >>> volunteer for this release owning to some other commitments, however >>> Andrzej mentioned in Slack that he might be able to volunteer for this post >>> 27th. >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> Are there any thoughts/concerns regarding this? >>> >> > >> Regards, >>> >> > >> Ishan >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Regards, >>> >> > >>> >> > Atri >>> >> > Apache Concerted >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Regards, >>> >> >>> >> Atri >>> >> Apache Concerted >>> >> >>> >> - >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >>> >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Atri >>> Apache Concerted >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >>> >>>
Re: Welcome Tomoko Uchida to the PMC
Welcome Tomoko! Jan Høydahl > 24. jul. 2020 kl. 19:08 skrev Christine Poerschke (BLOOMBERG/ LONDON) > : > > > Welcome Tomoko! > > From: dev@lucene.apache.org At: 07/04/20 08:27:28 > To: dev@lucene.apache.org > Subject: Re: Welcome Tomoko Uchida to the PMC > > Thank you Adrien and the whole PMCs, it's a great honour for me! > > Tomoko > > > 2020年7月4日(土) 15:28 Christian Moen : >> Congrats, Tomoko-san! >> >>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 15:26 Adrien Grand wrote: >>> I am pleased to announce that Tomoko Uchida has accepted the PMC's >>> invitation to join. >>> >>> Welcome Tomoko! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Adrien >
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Welcome, Mike! Jan Høydahl > 24. jul. 2020 kl. 22:03 skrev Anshum Gupta : > > > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's invitation to > join. > > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! > > -- > Anshum Gupta - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: Approach for a new Autoscaling framework
> Not clear to me what type of "alternative proposal" you're thinking of Jan That would be the responsibility of Noble and others who have concerns to detail - and try convince other peers. It’s hard for me as a spectator to know whether to agree with Noble without a clear picture of what the alternative API or approach would look like. I’m often a fan of loosely typed APIs since they tend to cause less boilerplate code, but strong typing may indeed be a sound choice in this API. Jan Høydahl > 24. jul. 2020 kl. 01:44 skrev Ilan Ginzburg : > > > In my opinion we have to (and therefore will) ship at least a basic prod > ready implementation on top of the API that does simple things (not sure > about rack, but for example balance cores and disk size without co locating > replicas of same shard on same node). > Without such an implementation, I suspect adoption will be low. Moreover, > it's always a lot more friendly to start coding from a working example than > from scratch. > > Not clear to me what type of "alternative proposal" you're thinking of Jan. > Alternative API proposal? Alternative approach to replace Autoscaling? > > Ilan > > Ilan > >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:11 AM Jan Høydahl wrote: >> Important discussion indeed. >> >> I don’t have time to dive deep into the PR or make up my mind whether there >> is a simpler and more future proof way of designing these APIs. But I >> understand that autoscaling is a complex beast and it is important we get it >> right. >> >> One question regarding having to write code vs config. Is the plan to ship >> some very simple light weight default placement rules ootb that gives 80% of >> users what they need with simple config, or would every user need to write >> code to e.g. spread replicas across hosts/racks? I’d be interested in seeing >> an alternative proposal laid out, perhaps not in code but with a design that >> can be compared and discussed. >> >> Jan Høydahl >> 23. jul. 2020 kl. 17:53 skrev Houston Putman : >>> >>> I think this is a valid thing to discuss on the dev list, since this isn't >>> just about code comments. >>> It seems to me that Ilan wants to discuss the philosophy around how to >>> design plugins and the interfaces in Solr which the plugins will talk to. >>> This is broad and affects much more than just the Autoscaling framework. >>> >>> As a community & product, we have so far agreed that Solr should be lighter >>> weight and additional features should live in plugins that are managed >>> separately from Solr itself. >>> At that point we need to think about the lifetime and support of these >>> plugins. People love to refactor stuff in the solr core, which before >>> plugins wasn't a large issue. >>> However if we are now intending for many customers to rely on plugins, then >>> we need to come up with standards and guarantees so that these plugins >>> don't: >>> Stall people from upgrading Solr (minor or major versions) >>> Hinder the development of Solr Core >>> Cause us more headaches trying to keep multiple repos of plugins up to date >>> with recent versions of Solr >>> >>> I am not completely sure where I stand right now, but this is definitely >>> something that we should be thinking about when migrating all of this >>> functionality to plugins. >>> >>> - Houston >>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 9:27 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote: I think we should move the discussion back to the PR because it has more context and inline comments are possible. Having this discussion in 4 places (jira, pr, slack and dev list is very hard to keep track of). > On Thu, 23 Jul, 2020, 5:57 pm Ilan Ginzburg, wrote: > [I’m moving a discussion from the PR for SOLR-14613 to the dev list for a > wider audience. This is about replacing the now (in master) gone > Autoscaling framework with a way for clients to write their customized > placement code] > > It took me a long time to write this mail and it's quite long, sorry. > Please anybody interested in the future of Autoscaling (not only those I > cc'ed) do read it and provide feedback. Very impacting decisions have to > be made now. > > Thanks Noble for your feedback. > I believe it is important that we are aligned on what we build here, esp. > at the early defining stages (now). > > Let me try to elaborate on your concerns and provide in general the > rationale behind the approach. > > > Anyone who wishes to implement this should not require to learn a lot > > before even getting started > For somebody who knows Solr (what is a Node, Collection, Shard, Replica) > and basic notions related to Autoscaling (getting variables representing > current state to make decisions), there’s not much to learn. The > framework uses the same concepts, often with the same names. > > > I don't believe we should have a
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Welcome Mike! -- Steve > On Jul 24, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Anshum Gupta wrote: > > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's invitation to > join. > > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! > > -- > Anshum Gupta - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Welcome, Mike! On Sat, 25 Jul, 2020, 1:43 am Ilan Ginzburg, wrote: > Congratulations Mike, happy to hear that! > > Ilan > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:56 PM Anshum Gupta > wrote: > >> I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's invitation >> to join. >> >> Congratulations and welcome, Mike! >> >> -- >> Anshum Gupta >> >
Re: Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
Congratulations Mike, happy to hear that! Ilan On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:56 PM Anshum Gupta wrote: > I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's invitation > to join. > > Congratulations and welcome, Mike! > > -- > Anshum Gupta >
Welcome Mike Drob to the PMC
I am pleased to announce that Mike Drob has accepted the PMC's invitation to join. Congratulations and welcome, Mike! -- Anshum Gupta
Re: Welcome Tomoko Uchida to the PMC
Welcome Tomoko! From: dev@lucene.apache.org At: 07/04/20 08:27:28To: dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Welcome Tomoko Uchida to the PMC Thank you Adrien and the whole PMCs, it's a great honour for me! Tomoko 2020年7月4日(土) 15:28 Christian Moen : Congrats, Tomoko-san! On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 15:26 Adrien Grand wrote: I am pleased to announce that Tomoko Uchida has accepted the PMC's invitation to join. Welcome Tomoko! -- Adrien
Re: Welcome Michael Sokolov to the PMC
Welcome Mike! From: dev@lucene.apache.org At: 07/03/20 13:15:05To: dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Welcome Michael Sokolov to the PMC Thanks Adrien, and to the whole PMC Mike On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 7:57 AM Adrien Grand wrote: I am pleased to announce that Michael Sokolov has accepted the PMC's invitation to join. Welcome Michael! -- Adrien
