[Marketing] First ECDL certification in Romania using OpenOffice.org

2005-12-01 Thread Cristian Driga

Hi,

Some news from Romania:


First ECDL certification in Romania using OpenOffice.org

November 30th 2005:
The Romanian national operator for ECDL announced that they have held 
the first examination (ECDL Module 3 - Word Processing) using the 
OpenOffice.org office suite.


This is the first time in Romania and it finally gives the ECDL 
certifications true vendor independence in this country and it also 
proves once again that the OpenOffice.org suite is a competitive 
alternative to the popular Microsoft Office suite.




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Re: [Marketing] Vote for official positioner (slogan) reopened

2005-12-01 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Jacqueline McNally wrote:


[...]

May I suggest that now the lists are starting to flow, that the voting
and discussion continues this week until Friday 2 December.


Jacqueline invited the readers of the native-lang marketing list 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to join the voting and asked for keeping it open 
until the weekend.


So I'd like to count all votings on Monday, December 5th.


So if you haven't voted or offered an opinion, please review
http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=21704
and offer them up before Friday.


... before Monday ;-)

Best regards
Bernhard

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[Marketing] worm attachement

2005-12-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On "dev Digest 1 Dec 2005 08:49:18 - Issue 976" a worm attached to 
the mail and was identified [Silvia.] and stopped by my mail program.  I thought you'd like to know.  This is the second  one of these since I subscribed to this list.



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Re: [Marketing] user acceptance

2005-12-01 Thread Ian Lynch

> I confirm this, Nvu if there is no user profile, at startup it prompts a
> similar display. This could be a good solution.
> 
> Andrea S.

Whatever is simplest that ensures there are no duplicates recorded.

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[Marketing] Re: Vote for official positioner (slogan) reopened

2005-12-01 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen

I put all my votes on "Open. For business".

Regards

Finn G. Larsen


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Re: [Marketing] Re: Writely supports OpenDocument

2005-12-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Chad Smith wrote:


... (as much as nothing)





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Re: [Marketing] Re: Writely supports OpenDocument

2005-12-01 Thread Chad Smith
On 12/1/05, Alexandro Colorado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 14:24:29 -, Chad Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As most contributors to this list, and even moreso like most users of
> > OOo, I
> > very rarely visit the OOo homepage.  I have little need to go there,
> > since I
> > already have the software installed.  I've based my statements on posts
> > made
> > to this list, and to the discuss, users, announce, and social lists, of
> > which I am a member.
>
> Isn´t that what he told you NOT to do.
>

Yes, I guess it is, but I didn't realize I had to obey Cor.  Especially
since I made the statements he was complaining about *before* he said that.

OpenOffice.org is a lot more than a website.  It's more than a program.
It's more than a community.  It's all these things, plus the mailing lists,
the IRC chat room, the sister-sites and satellite projects (like OOoAuthors,
OOoExtras, Friends of OpenOffice.org, etc.).

A person should be able to go to any one of these sources (at least the ones
that are maintained on a regular basis) and be able to find out about OOo
2.0.  I mean, we've been talking about this thing for like 2 years.  It
should be the most hyped thing we've done since 1.0.  But all the traffic on
this - the marketing list of OOo - has been about ODF.  So much so that the
head of the Marketing Project, Jacqueline McNally, came on and reminded us
that we are to promote OOo not ODF.

My question was a simple one - other than ODF, "what's new with OOo 2.0?".
I've received a few answers from that, and I'm grateful for them.  If there
was anywhere in the world for that question to be asked - it was the
Marketing List of OpenOffice.org - the fact that I am *STILL* 9 days later,
getting hammered for asking the question is rediculus.  In fact, *I* didn't
ask the question - Jacqueline did, I just parroted it.  And somehow, once
again, this has turned into an attack against me.

here's a quote from Jacqueline's original post that started this thread.

With the increasing number of products that are supporting OpenDocument,
> I would like us to discuss how to collate and categorise these and other
> competing products. That is, what other redeeming features does
> OpenOffice.org have, other than OpenDocument?
>

And because I asked the question as well, I'm being looked down upon, my
loyalities and intelligence are being questioned, and I'm being bossed
around.

Why hasn't anyone questioned Jacqueline's loyalities or ability to look at
the homepage?  I mean, it was *her* question, not mine.

I hope no one truly does attack Jacqueline.  My point is, it's wrong for
her, or me, or anyone to be attacked like for asking a simple, honest
question.

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Re: [Marketing] Re: Writely supports OpenDocument

2005-12-01 Thread Alexandro Colorado

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 14:24:29 -, Chad Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

As most contributors to this list, and even moreso like most users of  
OOo, I
very rarely visit the OOo homepage.  I have little need to go there,  
since I
already have the software installed.  I've based my statements on posts  
made

to this list, and to the discuss, users, announce, and social lists, of
which I am a member.


Isn´t that what he told you NOT to do.

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Re: [Marketing] user acceptance

2005-12-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chad Smith ha scritto:

>On 12/1/05, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>
>There's one program I've used, I don't remember which it is, I think it's
>Nvu, that the first time you install and open it, it says "Please click here
>to let our developers know we've got a new user.  It's quick, painless, and
>no personal information will be gathered.  You have to be connected to the
>Internet for this to work."  Whether you click "Okay" or "No Thanks" it goes
>away, and you never see it again.  I think it's just like a  "Ping" thing.
>We'd just need to set up a folder or server that would just receive and
>count the pings.  Multiple pings from the same IP could be ignored.
>
>I'm pretty sure it's Nvu that does that.  You might want to check it out.
>I've already got it installed on my computer, so it can't check.
>

I confirm this, Nvu if there is no user profile, at startup it prompts a
similar display. This could be a good solution.

Andrea S.



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Re: [Marketing] user acceptance

2005-12-01 Thread Chad Smith
On 12/1/05, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 19:23 +0800, Jacqueline McNally wrote:
>
> > I've been trying to think of ways of capturing figures for actual users
> > of OpenOffice.org as opposed to how many are distributed, for example,
> > no. of downloads.
>
> The only way I can think of doing it with any certainty would be
> registered users. This could be simplified so the user would type in
> their own unique code of say 10 random digits and letters that uniquely
> identified their installation of OOo. If the code was already used, the
> database would come back and say try again. If its quick and simple to
> do and the button is visible always on the menu bar so it can be done at
> any time, its more likely to happen but still a lot of people probably
> wouldn't bother registering.


A series of numbers and letters?  "Try Again"?

Don't you think that smacks of "Product Activation"?

I know the difference.  But it's going to look like we're making them
register or activative or something.  People won't like it.  People already
complain about the voluntary registration that doesn't require any numbers
or anything.


It would be nice for the database to come back with "You are the
> 10,301,234th registered user, welcome to the OOo community" or
> something.


There's one program I've used, I don't remember which it is, I think it's
Nvu, that the first time you install and open it, it says "Please click here
to let our developers know we've got a new user.  It's quick, painless, and
no personal information will be gathered.  You have to be connected to the
Internet for this to work."  Whether you click "Okay" or "No Thanks" it goes
away, and you never see it again.  I think it's just like a  "Ping" thing.
We'd just need to set up a folder or server that would just receive and
count the pings.  Multiple pings from the same IP could be ignored.

I'm pretty sure it's Nvu that does that.  You might want to check it out.
I've already got it installed on my computer, so it can't check.

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Re: [Marketing] Re: Writely supports OpenDocument

2005-12-01 Thread Chad Smith
On 11/30/05, Cor Nouws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Chad Smith wrote:
>
> > On 11/30/05, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Anyone who has been on these lists any length of time should know the
> >>main improvements.
> >
> > I agree, they *should*.
>
> Maybe you could make sure to inform yourself before starting to write
> something down. Shouldn't be that difficult, since the OOo main page did
> show the link some time.
>

Cor,

As most contributors to this list, and even moreso like most users of OOo, I
very rarely visit the OOo homepage.  I have little need to go there, since I
already have the software installed.  I've based my statements on posts made
to this list, and to the discuss, users, announce, and social lists, of
which I am a member.  You would think that being subscribed to the Marketing
List of OpenOffice.org, there would be no need for me to have to ask.  But
since, before this thread, there was little talk about the other features
(other than ODF) that were added to OOo.  As Ian said, I agreed, being on
these lists should be a way to learn about OOo, *ESPECIALLY* the marketing
list.  Which so far, has most focused on how we can promote and support ODF,
with very little discussion about the other features to OOo 2.0.  If I've
missed a thread that discussed these other features, please send me the link
to the archived thread, so I can learn more about them.

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Re: [Marketing] Re: Writely supports OpenDocument

2005-12-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Chad Smith wrote:


On 11/30/05, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyone who has been on these lists any length of time should know the
main improvements.


I agree, they *should*.  


Maybe you could make sure to inform yourself before starting to write 
something down. Shouldn't be that difficult, since the OOo main page did 
show the link some time.


Cor
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Re: [Marketing] Writely supports OpenDocument

2005-12-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Chad Smith wrote:


On 11/22/05, Cor Nouws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 10:00 -0500, Chad Smith wrote:
SNIP!



Seriously, what other improvement have their been between 1.1.5 and 2.0?
Other than ODF, of course.



Hi Chad,

I've doubted a lot about your contributions. Not more from now on :-(

Cor


Hi Cor,

So does that mean you no longer doubt I want to support OOo, or you no
longer think that I might?


Well, if you are pretending to contribute seriously in debates reg. OOo, 
 how then is it possible that on 11-21 you do not know what OOo 2.0 has 
to offer compared to previous versions. That means that you have been 
'uit je nekharen aan het kletsen' as we say in Dutch: just saying 
something. Realy not understandable to me.


So it's not about youwanting to support OOo or not.

Sorry,

Cor


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Re: [Marketing] user acceptance

2005-12-01 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 19:23 +0800, Jacqueline McNally wrote:

> I've been trying to think of ways of capturing figures for actual users
> of OpenOffice.org as opposed to how many are distributed, for example,
> no. of downloads.

The only way I can think of doing it with any certainty would be
registered users. This could be simplified so the user would type in
their own unique code of say 10 random digits and letters that uniquely
identified their installation of OOo. If the code was already used, the
database would come back and say try again. If its quick and simple to
do and the button is visible always on the menu bar so it can be done at
any time, its more likely to happen but still a lot of people probably
wouldn't bother registering.

It would be nice for the database to come back with "You are the
10,301,234th registered user, welcome to the OOo community" or
something.

> Stories like this are users that we can really count.

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Re: [Marketing] user acceptance

2005-12-01 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Jacqueline ,

Jacqueline McNally wrote:


I've been hunting out the paperwork associated with earlier versions of
MS Office. I'm pretty sure it said that employees could use a copy at
home if they used it at work. I haven't found it yet but knowing that I
haven't thrown anything away - I will.


AFAIK this has been changed lately. Under recent licence conditions 
there have to be an additional payment.


[...]



Does anyone particpate in the linux counter (www.linuxcounter.org) ?


I do not.


Perhaps we can clock up individual and smaller groups of OpenOffice.org
users similar to this.


Gathering information from both the OOo-newsletter and other resources 
about number of users/organisations (incl. charateristics) is on my 
wish-list. Maybe something for Santa Claus ;-)


Greetings,
Cor

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Re: [Marketing] Vote for official positioner (slogan) reopened

2005-12-01 Thread Benjamin Horst

10  "Open. For business."
9   "Free your files!"
8   "The New Office Suite Standard"
7   "Open Doors. Open Source. OpenOffice.org"
6   "Today's Office. Tomorrow's Standard."
5   "Upgrade to the Open Standard"
4   "Upgrade to open standards"
3   "Your company. Your data. Your Office."
2   "Give freedom a 2.0nd chance"
1   "Compatible with your Office."


[Marketing] user acceptance

2005-12-01 Thread Jacqueline McNally

Yes!

I've been hunting out the paperwork associated with earlier versions of
MS Office. I'm pretty sure it said that employees could use a copy at
home if they used it at work. I haven't found it yet but knowing that I
haven't thrown anything away - I will.

User acceptance 'key' in desktop Linux migrations
[Ingrid Marson, ZDNet UK, 30 Nov 2005]

"The German city of Mannheim is encouraging its employees to install
OpenOffice.org and Linux at home, and is even offering free support to
home users."

See: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39239135,00.htm

I've been trying to think of ways of capturing figures for actual users
of OpenOffice.org as opposed to how many are distributed, for example,
no. of downloads.

Stories like this are users that we can really count.

Does anyone particpate in the linux counter (www.linuxcounter.org) ?
Perhaps we can clock up individual and smaller groups of OpenOffice.org
users similar to this.

Regards
Jacqueline McNally
Lead, OpenOffice.org Marketing Project

Are you a computer angel? (www.computerangels.org.au)
Linux.conf.au 2006 (www.linux.conf.au)

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Re: [Marketing] info

2005-12-01 Thread Charles-H.Schulz
Ciao Silvia,

non posso parlare italiano, ma posso un poco capire, sono francese.
Prego, visita: http://it.openoffice.org
Il logo del OpenOffice.org es possibile d' utilisare per tu e tu esame.

Ciao,

Charles-H. Schulz.

Silvia Alonzo wrote:

> Ciao,
> mi chiamo Silvia ho 20 anni e scrivo da Pisa. Non so a chi rivolgermi 
> per questo problema:
> sono una studentessa di informatica umanistica e ieri per un esame ho 
> inviato un sito che ho fatto alla mia prof, appunto su open office, e 
> la prossima sett devo discuterlo. La prof mi ha risp che non era 
> daccordo sul fatto che avessi usato lo stesso logo di open office. Io 
> volevo sapere se invece era giusto usarlo, visto che è open source e 
> quindi libero!
> spero che tu mi possa dare un consiglio!!
> grazie, silvia
>
>
> ti allego il mio sito
>
>
>
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[Marketing] You cannot sell your license to use Microsoft Office to others

2005-12-01 Thread Claus Agerskov
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, RicMedia (Richie Brereton) wrote:

> ... I have since sold my copy of MS office to some
> poor fella. 

If you had read the End User License Agreement for Microsoft Office you 
would know that you cannot sell your license to others. 

So the poor fella is now a software pirat in the eyes of BSA and 
Microsoft.

All the other things you write about is great though.

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[Marketing] great stuff

2005-12-01 Thread RicMedia (Richie Brereton)
Hello,
 first, just wanted to let you know that openoffice is so far ahead
of the others, it's frightning.

My impressions of open source software initially were of the old text
interface and commands. I know it's stupid, but thats the impression a lot
of people have. If you can show how user friendly open source is, it's GUI,
as well as it's incredible functionality, you would undoubtably kick ass.

I am a web developer (just going out on my own) working with all macromedia
and adobe products simply because they are imho the best. But I am aware of
The Gimp and have used it a number of times and it's 95% as good as
photoshop.

Basically guys, myself and no doubt a lot of webdevs, are patiently waiting
for linux OS support for all adobe and macromedia products, as these are the
mainstay in this field. Alternativley, a suite of products that do that same
thing but are open source and run on both linux and windoze for image,
video, audio, web, and Flash. Of course you could talk to adobe/macro and
see what they can do !!! (I know it's a huge process and I don't mean to be
blaze' about it )

Also, I find PDF files extremly important for website dev, I use them in
many different ways.  Before openoffice, all I knew was that I needed to
fork out for MS office and adobe acrobat professional, all up about $600+!!
The only time I knew your program suite will easily convert a openoffice or
word doc to PDF was when I had installed it and noticed the export as pdf
function, and I went nuts! I have since sold my copy of MS office to some
poor fella. You really need to let people know about this function, to me
it's like email to the internet relationshipvery important!!

My website will be up in a few months (tons of planning and graphics to do
yet) and will be made up of many sub domains, one of those will be
multimedia links, advice and tutorials for webdev's starting out. I have a
strict limit of two links per program field and really want to help in any
way to promote, not just openoffice but all good GNU software. Also, I build
systems for locals here and was wondering how I go about installing
openoffice as the standard office suite? I presume I donate, but how much?
when? can I order a CD with all platform versions? any details will be
great.

domains are ricmedia.com.au & ricmedia.com but dont click yet, there nothing
there.

Cheers
Rich

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RE: [Marketing] Idea

2005-12-01 Thread Justin Fitzgibbon
Thanks you might want to investigate and support the existing project
manager design
For Ooo at http://oopm.openoffice.org/ it's still at the specifications
stage
 

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From: Bennett, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2005 8:21 AM
To: 'dev@marketing.openoffice.org'
Subject: [Marketing] Idea

To whom it may concern,
 
I use your OpenOffice Suite at home and I am very satisfied with it.  My
idea is... and you are probably already working on this is:  Why don't
you work on developing something similar to the Microsoft Project
application.
 
That's all
 
Bob B.
 

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