Re: [Marketing] Open Office for MacBook

[Chad Smith]

http://www.neooffice.org/ > click "Downloads" >  and I see this:

*Downloading NeoOffice 2.0 Alpha 4*

You can download NeoOffice from any of the following links:
*Downloads* *Processor
* *Size*  NeoOffice 2.0 Alpha 4
PowerPC
119484233
bytes
Intel
119340370
bytes  NeoOffice 2.0 Alpha 4 via BitTorrent
PowerPC
119484233
bytes
Intel
119340370
bytes

By default, the installer only installs English but language packs are
available for 53 other languages
here
.

On 8/9/06, André Wyrwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

Chad Smith wrote:
> You can use NeoOffice.  http://www.neooffice.org/  It is based on
> OpenOffice.org and it's Mac native.

only that they entered beta status which means that currently it's only
available through the early access program, which you'd have to pay for.

The free alpha4 version seems to have disappeared from the web site.

André.

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Re: [Marketing] Open Office for MacBook

[André Wyrwa]

Hi,

Chad Smith wrote:

You can use NeoOffice.  http://www.neooffice.org/  It is based on
OpenOffice.org and it's Mac native.


only that they entered beta status which means that currently it's only 
available through the early access program, which you'd have to pay for.


The free alpha4 version seems to have disappeared from the web site.

André.

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Re: [Marketing] Open Office for MacBook

[Chad Smith]

You can use NeoOffice.  http://www.neooffice.org/  It is based on
OpenOffice.org and it's Mac native.

On 8/9/06, frank lockfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I've been using Open Office with RedHat for some time, after starting with
StarOffice.  I now have a MacBook that needs Open Office.  When will there
be a version for the MacBook?



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[Marketing] Open Office for MacBook

[frank lockfeld]

I've been using Open Office with RedHat for some time, after starting with
StarOffice.  I now have a MacBook that needs Open Office.  When will there
be a version for the MacBook?



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Re: [Marketing] Selling the software for profit?

[Steven Shelton]

Alex Fisher wrote:

There was a discussion off list about them. I stated my position on this 
company. Unless and until they change their tactics, they will not be listed 
on the Distributor's page.


At the moment, I'm talking to the Australian consumer affairs watchdog, the 
Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC)




I know. I was part of it. I just wanted to be very clear that this was 
my personal opinion and not that of the OpenOffice.org community, which 
of course does not endorse other products as far as I know, and would 
certainly not say anything negative about another company in such a way 
that the other company could make some lame claim that the OOo community 
was tarnishing its "good name".


I *am* a lawyer, you know. I think about these things.

*grumbles* Damn lawyers... *grumbles*

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Re: [Marketing] Selling the software for profit?

[Alex Fisher]

On Wednesday 09 August 2006 23:37, Steven Shelton wrote:
> Jod Burgess wrote:
> > I read in the licensing that people can charge for warranty, support,
> > indemnity or liability obligations, but does it include charging for the
> > software itself?  A company called Think All Publishing
> > (www.thinkall.com) is selling this software for $24.95 under the guise of
> > it being free.  I was wondering if this is allowed.
>
> As I understand it, it is fine to sell the product itself. (That's one
> of the difference between "open source" and "freeware" software.)
>
> The OpenOffice.org organization (such as it is) does not, as far as I
> know, have any kind of official position on ThinkAll except to say that
> it does not endorse the company.

There was a discussion off list about them. I stated my position on this 
company. Unless and until they change their tactics, they will not be listed 
on the Distributor's page.

At the moment, I'm talking to the Australian consumer affairs watchdog, the 
Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC)
>
> My personal opinion is that they should be avoided. We have received
> numerous complaints about their practices on this list, Better Business
> Bureaus around the country have received similar complaints, there are
> scores of complaints about them everywhere you look on the internet, and
> I am aware of at least two potential plaintiffs who are considering
> lawsuits against the company for violations of consumer protection laws.
> The problem is not that they are selling the software; it's the
> deceptive way in which they do it: promoting the CDs as free and then
> recurring charging fees to people who do not return the CDs within 10
> days, with the terms of this buried deep in the "fine print."
>

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Re: [Marketing] Another "Why OOo" campaign luriking?

[John McCreesh]

On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 09:12 -0400, Kaj Kandler wrote:
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> Hi there,
> according to eWeek [0] MS is not supporting VB for Office Macros on the
> Mac in the next Office for Mac version. That means cross platform
> compatibility between Office versions will be more difficult to come by.
> 
> See also the slashdot discussion about the topic [1]
> 
> [0]http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2000434,00.asp
> [1] http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=06/08/08/1232239

I hadn't seen this one. We've had a lot of criticism over the years for
OOo's inability to run MS-O macros. How do you think we could turn this
into a 'why' - what would the slogan be on the button?

Did I read somewhere that ODF doesn't store macros?

John


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Re: [Marketing] Selling the software for profit?

[Steven Shelton]

Jod Burgess wrote:
> I read in the licensing that people can charge for warranty, support, 
> indemnity or liability obligations, but does it include charging for the 
> software itself?  A company called Think All Publishing (www.thinkall.com) is 
> selling this software for $24.95 under the guise of it being free.  I was 
> wondering if this is allowed.

As I understand it, it is fine to sell the product itself. (That's one
of the difference between "open source" and "freeware" software.)

The OpenOffice.org organization (such as it is) does not, as far as I
know, have any kind of official position on ThinkAll except to say that
it does not endorse the company.

My personal opinion is that they should be avoided. We have received
numerous complaints about their practices on this list, Better Business
Bureaus around the country have received similar complaints, there are
scores of complaints about them everywhere you look on the internet, and
I am aware of at least two potential plaintiffs who are considering
lawsuits against the company for violations of consumer protection laws.
The problem is not that they are selling the software; it's the
deceptive way in which they do it: promoting the CDs as free and then
recurring charging fees to people who do not return the CDs within 10
days, with the terms of this buried deep in the "fine print."

You can read more about them at these links:

http://www.dallas.bbb.org/news_20060712.html
http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=2083.0
http://www.ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&q5=Thinkall+Publishing&submit=Search
http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?t=21757
http://graphicssoft.about.com/b/a/257678.htm
http://www.veign.com/blog/2006/01/thinkallcom-think-again.html

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[Marketing] Another "Why OOo" campaign luriking?

[Kaj Kandler]

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Hi there,
according to eWeek [0] MS is not supporting VB for Office Macros on the
Mac in the next Office for Mac version. That means cross platform
compatibility between Office versions will be more difficult to come by.

See also the slashdot discussion about the topic [1]

[0]http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2000434,00.asp
[1] http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=06/08/08/1232239
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