Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi Claus, I wanted to say you a big *thank you* for the flash versions of my slides. Now, everything is online, and people can choose between .odt, .sxi .pdf ans .swf ! Links are : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2009 ( or 2008 or 2007 ) Regards, Eric Bachard -- Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: Education project results WAS [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi Eric, eric.bachard wrote (10-2-2009 12:28) I have put online my slides, and the patches I commented there : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2009 [...] thanks for posting this. I did not attend your presentation, but was (when you explained) catched by your enthusiasm and focus on helping up coming developers. I look forward to learn from the new results. As said, I (and probably not me alone) will look how the marketing project can for example pay attention to the work of the education project. Also I've read some "Q&A's" ;-) here and there about what should or should not be included by the education project. I'm not so good at that, but try to focus on the practical side. Showing results, and attracting more people and so on for next steps. Regards, Cor -- Cor Nouws-nl.OpenOffice.org marketing contact = "2009 - Develop OOo" =www.nieuwsteoffice.nl = - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi, Claus Agerskov a écrit : eric.bachard wrote: Nevertheless, if someone want to export them as MacroSomething ( tm, propriatory, Adobe), no problem for me. Really :-) Would you have the Flash-versions along the others? Then I will send them to you so you can upload them. Sure, if you want to provide one, please send it to me in private, and I'll upload it along the other, in the same dir Then all can see them directly in their browser (if they have a Flash player - but who doesn't)? Me ? :p Sorry, but that's true : I don't use flash at all .. I didn't either until two years ago - also a Linux-user (since 1998). He he : same for me : was Red Hat 5.0 in command line (my graphic card was not listed) :-) The Flash-version zooms so it fits the size of the browser window or frame. And you just click at the slide to go to the next. Very smart if you want a presentation on your website. Ok, feel free to add you in the document, as contributor. Regards, Eric Bachard -- Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
eric.bachard wrote:
Claus Agerskov a écrit :
eric.bachard skrev:
Why don't you export the presentations as Macromedia Flash (.swf) files?
Because I'm a Linux user on platforms since a long time (more than 10
years) and it was badly working since a long time (e.g. on Linux
PowerPC), so I don't have the habits to export in such formats :-)
Nevertheless, if someone want to export them as MacroSomething ( tm,
propriatory, Adobe), no problem for me. Really :-)
Would you have the Flash-versions along the others?
Then I will send them to you so you can upload them.
Then all can see them directly in their browser (if they have a Flash
player - but who doesn't)?
Me ? :p
Sorry, but that's true : I don't use flash at all ..
I didn't either until two years ago - also a Linux-user (since 1998).
The Flash-version zooms so it fits the size of the browser window or
frame. And you just click at the slide to go to the next. Very smart if
you want a presentation on your website.
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Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
eric.bachard wrote: Hi Jurgen, Juergen Schmidt a écrit : eric.bachard wrote: Some students where very glad to learn about the existence of the OpenOffice.org Education Project. What is strange, is the Sun people working with them never told them about Education Project. Will investigate how to improve. that is of course not true That's just the facts. And I'm sorry, but I just report what I learned in the discussion : the students have never heard of Education Project. that might be true but it doesn't meant that it's Sun fault. At least for me it was the first contact with this guy at FOSDEM and it was just the beginning of some collaboration. He contacted Sun for some reason and i promised support where i can independent of any specific project. It doesn't help if you spread such wrong messages. This is not wrong messages, and I perfectly assume what I wrote : Sun behaviour is not clear at all concerning OpenOffice.org Education Project. Sun is supporting the eduction project in the same way as all other projects. Sun is not OpenOffice.org, Sun is part of OpenOffice.org. If people prefer to contact Sun that's fine and we help where we can. Maybe you should think for example about the Seneca collage and should remember who made the contacts over years, it was Louis as the community manager and as a Sun employee and a string supporter of the education project. Again it's not only you who is thinking about the education project or doing something to attract new developers. Now, I'm sorry, but I have better to do, my time is precious, and I'll stop this unconstructive discussion with you there. well that is better and i strongly recommend that you consider your communication style. The only thing you do is to isolate yourself. Don't think in the small sub project world, it doesn't help us. Think more global, the one global OpenOffice.org project. It doesn't really matter in which sub project things move forward. At least not for me, for me counts only the global project with all the tiny important parts. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi Jurgen, Juergen Schmidt a écrit : eric.bachard wrote: Some students where very glad to learn about the existence of the OpenOffice.org Education Project. What is strange, is the Sun people working with them never told them about Education Project. Will investigate how to improve. that is of course not true That's just the facts. And I'm sorry, but I just report what I learned in the discussion : the students have never heard of Education Project. It doesn't help if you spread such wrong messages. This is not wrong messages, and I perfectly assume what I wrote : Sun behaviour is not clear at all concerning OpenOffice.org Education Project. Now, I'm sorry, but I have better to do, my time is precious, and I'll stop this unconstructive discussion with you there. Regards Eric Bachard -- Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
eric.bachard wrote: Hi Cor, all, I would like to say a big thank you to all the one who contributed, for everything, including Team OpenOffice.org e.V. for funding me. This FOSDEM was my third one, as participant, and it was yet better than the previous one, really. And I start to be easy in Bruxelles, what is a good thing ;-) About my workshop : less people than last year, but all where developers, and had c++ ( and some objective C ) knowledge. Glad to see ancient students from UTBM proposing talks and better for some, and to see the one who came to say me hello too. I have put online my slides, and the patches I commented there : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2009 Asap, I'll complete this with a course explaining how I traced and fixed a bug using gdb, because people told me afterwards it was the most interesting of the workout. Some students where very glad to learn about the existence of the OpenOffice.org Education Project. What is strange, is the Sun people working with them never told them about Education Project. Will investigate how to improve. that is of course not true and you misunderstand things i guess. It doesn't help if you spread such wrong messages. Juergen Tip : for the one interested, the slides of my previous participations are easy to find : just replace 2009 with 2008 and 2007 ... means everything is : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2008 http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2007 ;-) One idea for improvement: our booth finished at 5 this afternoon. Most people had left … but still there were visitors, developers around. So maybe we can plan next year that some people stay longer (and maybe also arrive later). We will have even better coverage then. Yes, if ever I'm there again, I'll take my car, and stay longer + I'll prepare other wild debug workouts :) Last but not least, the most important I will retain is when we meet other devs face to face, we do an incredible good work, more difficult to achieve my IRC or email. For example, we traced a crash with Stephan (we found a beginning of fix), and I worked more than one hour with Thorsten, on something complicated (Cairo , color space and OpenGL). Be face to face was the key of the good work. I'll never insist enough about the importance of be together and work together. I just regret the network was not working when Eike wanted to show me his work about formulas and some other important stuff he's working on. Was a great FOSDEM ! Regard,s Eric Bachard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi, Claus Agerskov a écrit : eric.bachard skrev: I have put online my slides, and the patches I commented there : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2009 Why don't you export the presentations as Macromedia Flash (.swf) files? Because I'm a Linux user on platforms since a long time (more than 10 years) and it was badly working since a long time (e.g. on Linux PowerPC), so I don't have the habits to export in such formats :-) Nevertheless, if someone want to export them as MacroSomething ( tm, propriatory, Adobe), no problem for me. Really :-) Then all can see them directly in their browser (if they have a Flash player - but who doesn't)? Me ? :p Sorry, but that's true : I don't use flash at all .. Great introduction to get into the source code. The bad thing, is what I said 2 hours long, does not appear at all, and that's very damage. That's why I'll create a wiki page with more information, e.g, how I traced, what were the ideas .. and so on. Regards, Eric Bachard -- Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
eric.bachard skrev:
I have put online my slides, and the patches I commented there :
http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2009
Why don't you export the presentations as Macromedia Flash (.swf) files?
Then all can see them directly in their browser (if they have a Flash
player - but who doesn't)?
Great introduction to get into the source code.
The most enjoyable greetings
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Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi Cor, all, I would like to say a big thank you to all the one who contributed, for everything, including Team OpenOffice.org e.V. for funding me. This FOSDEM was my third one, as participant, and it was yet better than the previous one, really. And I start to be easy in Bruxelles, what is a good thing ;-) About my workshop : less people than last year, but all where developers, and had c++ ( and some objective C ) knowledge. Glad to see ancient students from UTBM proposing talks and better for some, and to see the one who came to say me hello too. I have put online my slides, and the patches I commented there : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2009 Asap, I'll complete this with a course explaining how I traced and fixed a bug using gdb, because people told me afterwards it was the most interesting of the workout. Some students where very glad to learn about the existence of the OpenOffice.org Education Project. What is strange, is the Sun people working with them never told them about Education Project. Will investigate how to improve. Tip : for the one interested, the slides of my previous participations are easy to find : just replace 2009 with 2008 and 2007 ... means everything is : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2008 http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2007 ;-) One idea for improvement: our booth finished at 5 this afternoon. Most people had left … but still there were visitors, developers around. So maybe we can plan next year that some people stay longer (and maybe also arrive later). We will have even better coverage then. Yes, if ever I'm there again, I'll take my car, and stay longer + I'll prepare other wild debug workouts :) Last but not least, the most important I will retain is when we meet other devs face to face, we do an incredible good work, more difficult to achieve my IRC or email. For example, we traced a crash with Stephan (we found a beginning of fix), and I worked more than one hour with Thorsten, on something complicated (Cairo , color space and OpenGL). Be face to face was the key of the good work. I'll never insist enough about the importance of be together and work together. I just regret the network was not working when Eike wanted to show me his work about formulas and some other important stuff he's working on. Was a great FOSDEM ! Regard,s Eric Bachard -- Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Juergen Schmidt wrote:
Claus Agerskov wrote:
Is the lab documentation available somewhere?
no not yet, i will publish asap but probably it will be next week
earliest. I would like to make some tests first because i recognized a
problem that maybe is caused by NB 6.5
Great - I'm looking forward to it then.
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Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Claus Agerskov wrote: Great to hear from the ones attended FOSDEM Juergen Schmidt skrev: My workshop was an experiment to bring some more practical stuff to the attendees. I have a mixed feeling because some people left the room because they hadn't a laptop that was a prerequisite that i already mentioned in the abstract. Others who really worked through the lab documentation appreciated the detailed lab documentation ... I think it is better placed at events where i can provide some hardware environment as well or completly online (i will publish it asap). Is the lab documentation available somewhere? no not yet, i will publish asap but probably it will be next week earliest. I would like to make some tests first because i recognized a problem that maybe is caused by NB 6.5 Juergen The most enjoyable greetings - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
