Re: [marketing] OpenOffice as best open source of 2009

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Ben,

Benjamin Segura wrote on 2010-02-10 17.26:


I am Ben, from Redaccenir, an spanish company. We have held a contest to
find the best open source software of 2009 in our software site
PortalProgramas and OpenOffice.org has been one of the most voted:
http://www.portalprogramas.com/premios-mejor-software-libre/


these are excellent news, thanks a lot for sharing!


Thanks to the impact in media, more than 12.000 people has taken part on
it. As our users have chosen you as one of the best open source apps we
have donated 500 euros to support your development (donation managed by
your partner Alexandro Colorado).


Thank you very much for your support, this is truly appreciated! I'll 
talk to Alexandro on how to best use this money.



I attach you an award which in fact is a proof of OpenOffice worth for
Spanish and Latin America people. You could publish it on your awards page.


Our mailing lists do not permit attachments. Can you send it to me 
directly via e-mail? Then I'm happy to add it to our news section.


Florian

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[marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

according to the current Doodle poll at 
http://www.doodle.com/5cnsa73dbc6hfd28, the 2nd marketing confcall is 
most likely to take place


next Wednesday, February 17th, 1700 CET

If you haven't voted yet, please do so by Sunday, so I can fix the date 
soon. Also don't forget to add your preferred agenta points to the wiki 
at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls


Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Hi, Florian,

Florian Effenberger wrote:
> according to the current Doodle poll at
> http://www.doodle.com/5cnsa73dbc6hfd28, the 2nd marketing confcall is
> most likely to take place
> 
> next Wednesday, February 17th, 1700 CET

Will we be able to start testing the SIP conference calling soon?
It'll take a few tries to refine the methods and instructions.

regards,
/Lars

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Lars,

Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-02-12 12.06:

Will we be able to start testing the SIP conference calling soon?
It'll take a few tries to refine the methods and instructions.


there's no need for SIP calls. We have a free hosting offer by talkyoo, 
they offer several landline dialins as well as Skype. So we don't need 
to struggle with SIP. :-)


Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote:

> We have a free hosting offer by talkyoo, they offer several landline
> dialins

Yes, it's a great start.  There are land-line dial-ins for Germany,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France, and The Netherlands.  What
is the ETA for the other countries with active OOo
localization teams?

> as well as Skype. So we don't need to struggle with SIP. :-)

The instructions on how to connect without Skype seem to be missing from
the page:

http://www.conference-call.me/

In addition to being proprietary in both the software and protocol,
Skype's not supported by more than a small fraction of the architectures
and platforms that OOo supports.

It'd be wonderful to take up Talkyoo's kind offer of sponsorship without
digging out a special machine for skype.

Regards
/Lars

(We don't need to belabor Skype's security history, it speaks for itself.)

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Lars,

Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-02-12 12.22:


Yes, it's a great start.  There are land-line dial-ins for Germany,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France, and The Netherlands.  What
is the ETA for the other countries with active OOo
localization teams?


not that I'm aware of. At the moment, I guess we're stuck with the 
dial-ins we have.



The instructions on how to connect without Skype seem to be missing from
the page:

http://www.conference-call.me/


It's user talkoo_skype, just add it and then you can join.


In addition to being proprietary in both the software and protocol,
Skype's not supported by more than a small fraction of the architectures
and platforms that OOo supports.


I know, but we've been through this discussion. SIP needs bandwith and 
doesn't work reliably behind NAT and firewalls.


I guess the current talkyoo offer is the best we can have for now. I'm 
open for other options, but the feedback received so far concerning 
alternatives tended to zero, so I consider talkyoo our best choice atm.


Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi Lars,
> 
> Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-02-12 12.22:
> 
>> Yes, it's a great start.  There are land-line dial-ins for Germany,
>> Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France, and The Netherlands.  What
>> is the ETA for the other countries with active OOo
>> localization teams?
> 
> not that I'm aware of. At the moment, I guess we're stuck with the
> dial-ins we have.
> 
>> The instructions on how to connect without Skype seem to be missing from
>> the page:
>>
>> http://www.conference-call.me/
> 
> It's user talkoo_skype, just add it and then you can join.

That would be connecting *with* skype.

>> In addition to being proprietary in both the software and protocol,
>> Skype's not supported by more than a small fraction of the architectures
>> and platforms that OOo supports.
> 
> I know, but we've been through this discussion. 

And the conclusion is the same.

> SIP needs bandwith and doesn't work reliably behind NAT and firewalls.

That may have been correct a while back, but not lately.

> I guess the current talkyoo offer is the best we can have for now. I'm
> open for other options, but the feedback received so far concerning
> alternatives tended to zero, so I consider talkyoo our best choice atm.

The Asterisk option looked good and that's where it looked like OOo
marketing was heading.  Talkyoo was presented as an SIP option, since it
was presented as a solution during discussions of finding SIP services.

I'm looking at Ekiga and it has conference services that any SIP client
can dial into.  What did your contact at talkyoo say about SIP or H323?
   Even skype supports (or claims to support) SIP so talkyoo might be
supporting it.

/Lars

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I wonder if there is additional slots of times, the schedule seems a
bit too early for me. Althought I am perfect on the 5-6 pm UTC I
wouldnt mind additional slots later that day.

On 2/12/10, Lars Nooden  wrote:
> Florian Effenberger wrote:
>> Hi Lars,
>>
>> Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-02-12 12.22:
>>
>>> Yes, it's a great start.  There are land-line dial-ins for Germany,
>>> Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France, and The Netherlands.  What
>>> is the ETA for the other countries with active OOo
>>> localization teams?
>>
>> not that I'm aware of. At the moment, I guess we're stuck with the
>> dial-ins we have.
>>
>>> The instructions on how to connect without Skype seem to be missing from
>>> the page:
>>>
>>> http://www.conference-call.me/
>>
>> It's user talkoo_skype, just add it and then you can join.
>
> That would be connecting *with* skype.
>
>>> In addition to being proprietary in both the software and protocol,
>>> Skype's not supported by more than a small fraction of the architectures
>>> and platforms that OOo supports.
>>
>> I know, but we've been through this discussion.
>
> And the conclusion is the same.
>
>> SIP needs bandwith and doesn't work reliably behind NAT and firewalls.
>
> That may have been correct a while back, but not lately.
>
>> I guess the current talkyoo offer is the best we can have for now. I'm
>> open for other options, but the feedback received so far concerning
>> alternatives tended to zero, so I consider talkyoo our best choice atm.
>
> The Asterisk option looked good and that's where it looked like OOo
> marketing was heading.  Talkyoo was presented as an SIP option, since it
> was presented as a solution during discussions of finding SIP services.
>
> I'm looking at Ekiga and it has conference services that any SIP client
> can dial into.  What did your contact at talkyoo say about SIP or H323?
>Even skype supports (or claims to support) SIP so talkyoo might be
> supporting it.
>
> /Lars
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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Lars,

Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-02-12 14.50:


It's user talkoo_skype, just add it and then you can join.


That would be connecting *with* skype.


what did you mean?


SIP needs bandwith and doesn't work reliably behind NAT and firewalls.


That may have been correct a while back, but not lately.


Wrong. SIP does *not* work reliably at all with NAT. It needs strange 
playing with STUN and SIP proxies to get it to work, even on recent 
hardware. IAX would be the protocol of choice, but it isn't supported by 
most hardware.



The Asterisk option looked good and that's where it looked like OOo
marketing was heading.  Talkyoo was presented as an SIP option, since it
was presented as a solution during discussions of finding SIP services.


No, talkyoo never was presented as SIP option. The SIP option would have 
been to run our own Asterisk server connecting to various SIP providers, 
like sipgate.


However, the amount of replies was ONE, only Davide sent in a 
suggestion. If no one is really willing to invest time in it, I can't 
help, sorry. I asked many many times to look up SIP providers in various 
countries, and only one reply. To me, it seems no one is interested.



I'm looking at Ekiga and it has conference services that any SIP client
can dial into.  What did your contact at talkyoo say about SIP or H323?


They only offer landline + skype. And SIP alone doesn't help -- neither 
the people who are on low bandwith, nor thosee behind firewalls. We at 
least need landline connection, plus optionally SIP and Skype.


Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Alexandro,

Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-02-12 14.57:

I wonder if there is additional slots of times, the schedule seems a
bit too early for me. Althought I am perfect on the 5-6 pm UTC I
wouldnt mind additional slots later that day.


what time (in UTC) would be ok for you?

Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Alexandro Colorado
well extra slot besides 7pmUTC would be even better.

On 2/12/10, Florian Effenberger  wrote:
> Hi Alexandro,
>
> Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-02-12 14.57:
>> I wonder if there is additional slots of times, the schedule seems a
>> bit too early for me. Althought I am perfect on the 5-6 pm UTC I
>> wouldnt mind additional slots later that day.
>
> what time (in UTC) would be ok for you?
>
> Florian
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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-02-12 15.41:

well extra slot besides 7pmUTC would be even better.


the problem is, that I cannot attend then anymore. We have a little 
child in the house, and being loud on the phone in the late evening is a 
bit of a problem... :-(


Is before 7 pm UTC generally bad for you, or just on certain days?

Florian

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[marketing] OpenOffiice 3.2

2010-02-12 Thread Emília Alezárová
Good afternoon

Would like am themselves you ask that when accomplish OpenOffice 3.2 in 
slovakia language

Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-02-12 Thread Andy Brown

Drew, all,

I have the files needed to get started on the CDs for the conference.
I just need an idea of how many I need to burn.

How do I go about getting the labels?

Still waiting on the Art project for the banner art, trying to tie in
with the 10 anniversary.

I finally have a good pamphlet, how may do we need?

Any idea how many of the Library flyers we will need?


Andy

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