[marketing] Re: [marcon] agenda for Tuesday

2010-06-19 Thread Peter Junge

Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

as you all know, we have our next confcall on Tuesday. Please do not 
forget to add your favorite discussion items for our agenda to


http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls


I have been adding 'Status OOoCon 2010' as a discussion item.

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Best regards,
Peter

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Re: [marketing] Fund request for top page renewal at ja.oo.o, Terada-san

2010-06-19 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

a few more thoughts to sum things up:

In general, paying travel, lodging and other costs (expenses) for 
community members is a good thing, I'm all for it, given certain rules 
are met.


Payment for volunteer work should never occur. It is just too risky, we 
cannot satisfy everyone's needs and requests. There might be rare 
exceptions where we should nontheless pay for work time, but these need 
to have a compelling reason.


In many cases, things cannot be done by volunteer work. Then, funding 
for a commercial company/service provider should be granted. However, 
these companies are usually not part of the community, so payment is not 
going to a volunteer. Otherwise, volunteers simply could reject 
volunteer work, but offer contracted work through their company instead, 
which is not desirable.


Things like the summer intership programme and the documentation bounty 
are on the one hand bad, because money is given for people's work of 
one, two or three months, while long-term contributors to OOo are never 
paid. However, these contests serve more needs: They give lots of 
attention to the media, and they are usually meant to attract new 
volunteers. Therefore, I can agree with paying for work time as part of 
these contests.


You see, this is indeed a hot topic and we should discuss wisely and 
sensitive...


Florian

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