Sorry Folks, but we run at different speeds and different tracks...Bill Siler

> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:37:32 +0800
> From: p...@openoffice.org
> To: j...@openoffice.org
> CC: dev@marketing.openoffice.org; mar...@marketing.openoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [marketing] Marketing budget - SCALEx9
> 
> Hi Alexandro,
> 
> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> > Hi I want to ask the budget commitee for 500 dls for expenses to
> > SCALEx9. I want to put the petition even if SCALE still have not
> > finished the CFP. I submitted a couple of talks and I am still waiting
> > for the final approval. However budget processes have been a bit slow
> > lately so I want to put an early petition here.
> 
> maybe the processes are slow because you are sending your request 
> recurrently to the wrong address. AFAIR, Florian had mentioned this many 
> times. A budget request has to raised with the budget custodian, which 
> is currently me. Mailing lists are welcome to be CCed, but it's not 
> mandatory.
> 
> > 
> > Last year I participated with a lightning talk on OOo4Kids which you
> > can watch here: http://jza.blip.tv/file/3261755/
> > 
> > After the talk I got to talk with the core organizers which were
> > interested into expanding the participation for communities such as
> > OOo in the US. And geared me to participate next year with a wider
> > talk about OOo/ODF etc. This year I am giving a talk on ODF with an
> > OpenGovernment angle, targeting the success stories gather from South
> > America and Europe.
> 
> If we fund you to attend the SCALEx9, we have to make sure that you are 
> still with OOo. I had a look at the ES project at the OOo website and I 
> have to say, that there are a couple of issues puzzling me, hence I want 
> to raise some concerns:
> 
> Firstly, the design of http://es.openoffice.org/ is not as it should be 
> with OOo. Usually one finds the main project links such as member list, 
> mailing lists etc., but they are hidden. They only becoming visible 
> after moving on to "Conoce OOo" or "Servicios". Being there, I have been 
> having a look at "Comunidad::Listas de Correos" and got really 
> irritated. (http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html) The OOo 
> mailing lists have apparently been dropped in preference of other 
> mailing lists hosted as http://oooes.org/. I'm not in favor for such a 
> solution, but it might still be a agreement of the community. However, 
> the worst problem for me is, that the OOo mailing list archives are not 
> reachable from this point. IMHO, that's totally inappropriate. Even more 
> confusing is, that the d...@es mailing list still seems to have 
> significant traffic, see:
> http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=dev
> Can you please comment my above observations.
> 
> Secondly, I have been visiting http://oooes.org/ then. It promotes both 
> OOo and LibreOffice, which many here see as a competing product and 
> community. So, if you are going to attend the SCALEx9 on behalf and the 
> expenses of OOo, will yo exclusively promote OOo or will you promote the 
> whole ecosystem? The flow chart 
> (http://oooes.org/images/interacciones-oooes.png) on the main page looks 
> a bit like OOoES is closer tight to the TDF and LibO, rather than OOo. 
> (BTW, the way OOoES is using the new OOo logo is IMHO against the 
> guidelines.)
> 
> > 
> > $500 would allow me to partially pay for my travel expenses. I would
> > still need to chip from my own money to pay for hotel.
> 
> Please comment on the above concerns before we proceed.
> 
> Best regards,
> Peter
> 
> 
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