Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo (without OOo branding ATM) - volunteers?

2009-11-23 Thread Michael Meeks

On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 10:01 +0100, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> Lars Nooden wrote:
> > Many icon themes use one or two colors (not counting greyscale shading).
> >  Is there a convenient way to set up a mask so that distros and versions
> > of distros can overlay their own colors?
..
> I am not sure if it would be really helpful if all distros and all ODF 
> handling applications would use their own icons. We can probably do a 
> proper marketing for OOo with keeping the ODF icons in their original 
> design.

Has anyone considered asking those responsible for artwork in Linux
distributions about this scheme ?

Might be a good idea to do this as step #1 instead of step #50 ;-)

HTH,

Michael.

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[marketing] OO.o / Novell bits ...

2009-08-05 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Charles,

Wow - this reply is horribly late; I was doing some unrelated search
and noticed this thread. If you want a reply - you need to CC me as well
as the list - and not follow the screwed-up Reply-To: mangling that
destroys community ;-) Sorry about that, but I can't regularly read
'marketing' (13k unread mails as of today).

Anyhow - that aside:

On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 14:45 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Well, I don't see the GPL/ LGPL v3 in there, and that's a substantial
> difference concerning the legal uncertainties surrounding Mono. 

Oh - Mono is a mix of licenses, for sure - but AFAIR & (as Ismael said)
the core JIT is LGPLv2 & class libraries X11. OTOH, the recent Community
Promise move from MS around .Net should substantially re-assure people
terrified of legal uncertainties. Marketing wise that's prolly not
terribly relevant for OO.o though.

> No, it's not. Because the news that the contributions from Novell
> under LGPL v3 are 100% news to me and to many around here

    Why ? as I wrote:

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 18:10 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: 
>   Not at all. All our OO.o changes are available under the terms
>  of the LGPLv3, and we would be more than pleased for Sun to accept
> them under the terms of the project license.

Which is the case. I don't think a reasonable person would confuse the
untouched whole of Mono (as used to write a plugin for OO.o) as a
'change' to OO.o :-) In the same way that someone would not demand a
LGPLv3 licensed copy of python, to include a LGPLv3 python script to
drive OO.o.

> I'm still expecting a 100% answer about the OOXML filter,
> because that's 100% on topic, and so far I only got 0% answer.

Sure - so if you are thinking of the (BSD licensed) CleverAge XSLT
converter - it is (IMHO) a technically lame solution to the document
conversion problem, and I wouldn't suggest we include it in OO.o :-) and
last I checked the Sun engineers agreed.

This is the reason you don't see any integration for this in OO.o, oh
and of course the CleverAge converter is a joint effort with various
other parties under the BSD - it would need to be included (if it was
worth including) under that license - as is eg. python.

So - to take a simpler / different example: if we want SVG import in
OO.o, that's easy, the work is done, and it is available under the
project license: LGPLv3.

HTH,

Michael.

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Re: [marketing] Telefonica in Spain might be breaking up OOo's LGPL and Trademark rules

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Meeks

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 18:02 +0200, Per Eriksson wrote:
> Isn't this what Novell is doing? Changing the software and hesitating 
> with contributing back ?

Not at all. All our OO.o changes are available under the terms of the
LGPLv3, and we would be more than pleased for Sun to accept them under
the terms of the project license.

Sadly they refuse to do so, without Sun owning the code. We're eager
for a truly independent & representative foundation to own the code, but
not Sun - cf. flamewars ad nauseum on this topic :-)

HTH,

Michael.

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Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org facts!!

2005-02-04 Thread Michael Meeks

On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 21:42 -0500, Daniel Carrera wrote:
> I can't believe that your library won't try open source "because it gives 
> pop up ads". That's insane! (and yes, a big freakin lie) I can't believe 
> they're saying that kind of garbage.

Do we still have the 'register' dialog on startup in stock builds ?

;->

Michael.

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