Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi Cor, all, I would like to say a big thank you to all the one who contributed, for everything, including Team OpenOffice.org e.V. for funding me. This FOSDEM was my third one, as participant, and it was yet better than the previous one, really. And I start to be easy in Bruxelles, what is a good thing ;-) About my workshop : less people than last year, but all where developers, and had c++ ( and some objective C ) knowledge. Glad to see ancient students from UTBM proposing talks and better for some, and to see the one who came to say me hello too. I have put online my slides, and the patches I commented there : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2009 Asap, I'll complete this with a course explaining how I traced and fixed a bug using gdb, because people told me afterwards it was the most interesting of the workout. Some students where very glad to learn about the existence of the OpenOffice.org Education Project. What is strange, is the Sun people working with them never told them about Education Project. Will investigate how to improve. Tip : for the one interested, the slides of my previous participations are easy to find : just replace 2009 with 2008 and 2007 ... means everything is : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2008 http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2007 ;-) One idea for improvement: our booth finished at 5 this afternoon. Most people had left … but still there were visitors, developers around. So maybe we can plan next year that some people stay longer (and maybe also arrive later). We will have even better coverage then. Yes, if ever I'm there again, I'll take my car, and stay longer + I'll prepare other wild debug workouts :) Last but not least, the most important I will retain is when we meet other devs face to face, we do an incredible good work, more difficult to achieve my IRC or email. For example, we traced a crash with Stephan (we found a beginning of fix), and I worked more than one hour with Thorsten, on something complicated (Cairo , color space and OpenGL). Be face to face was the key of the good work. I'll never insist enough about the importance of be together and work together. I just regret the network was not working when Eike wanted to show me his work about formulas and some other important stuff he's working on. Was a great FOSDEM ! Regard,s Eric Bachard -- Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
eric.bachard skrev:
I have put online my slides, and the patches I commented there :
http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2009
Why don't you export the presentations as Macromedia Flash (.swf) files?
Then all can see them directly in their browser (if they have a Flash
player - but who doesn't)?
Great introduction to get into the source code.
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Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi Jurgen, Juergen Schmidt a écrit : eric.bachard wrote: Some students where very glad to learn about the existence of the OpenOffice.org Education Project. What is strange, is the Sun people working with them never told them about Education Project. Will investigate how to improve. that is of course not true That's just the facts. And I'm sorry, but I just report what I learned in the discussion : the students have never heard of Education Project. It doesn't help if you spread such wrong messages. This is not wrong messages, and I perfectly assume what I wrote : Sun behaviour is not clear at all concerning OpenOffice.org Education Project. Now, I'm sorry, but I have better to do, my time is precious, and I'll stop this unconstructive discussion with you there. Regards Eric Bachard -- Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
eric.bachard wrote: Hi Jurgen, Juergen Schmidt a écrit : eric.bachard wrote: Some students where very glad to learn about the existence of the OpenOffice.org Education Project. What is strange, is the Sun people working with them never told them about Education Project. Will investigate how to improve. that is of course not true That's just the facts. And I'm sorry, but I just report what I learned in the discussion : the students have never heard of Education Project. that might be true but it doesn't meant that it's Sun fault. At least for me it was the first contact with this guy at FOSDEM and it was just the beginning of some collaboration. He contacted Sun for some reason and i promised support where i can independent of any specific project. It doesn't help if you spread such wrong messages. This is not wrong messages, and I perfectly assume what I wrote : Sun behaviour is not clear at all concerning OpenOffice.org Education Project. Sun is supporting the eduction project in the same way as all other projects. Sun is not OpenOffice.org, Sun is part of OpenOffice.org. If people prefer to contact Sun that's fine and we help where we can. Maybe you should think for example about the Seneca collage and should remember who made the contacts over years, it was Louis as the community manager and as a Sun employee and a string supporter of the education project. Again it's not only you who is thinking about the education project or doing something to attract new developers. Now, I'm sorry, but I have better to do, my time is precious, and I'll stop this unconstructive discussion with you there. well that is better and i strongly recommend that you consider your communication style. The only thing you do is to isolate yourself. Don't think in the small sub project world, it doesn't help us. Think more global, the one global OpenOffice.org project. It doesn't really matter in which sub project things move forward. At least not for me, for me counts only the global project with all the tiny important parts. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
eric.bachard wrote:
Claus Agerskov a écrit :
eric.bachard skrev:
Why don't you export the presentations as Macromedia Flash (.swf) files?
Because I'm a Linux user on platforms since a long time (more than 10
years) and it was badly working since a long time (e.g. on Linux
PowerPC), so I don't have the habits to export in such formats :-)
Nevertheless, if someone want to export them as MacroSomething ( tm,
propriatory, Adobe), no problem for me. Really :-)
Would you have the Flash-versions along the others?
Then I will send them to you so you can upload them.
Then all can see them directly in their browser (if they have a Flash
player - but who doesn't)?
Me ? :p
Sorry, but that's true : I don't use flash at all ..
I didn't either until two years ago - also a Linux-user (since 1998).
The Flash-version zooms so it fits the size of the browser window or
frame. And you just click at the slide to go to the next. Very smart if
you want a presentation on your website.
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Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
On 02/08/09 19:13, Cor Nouws wrote: One idea for improvement: our booth finished at 5 this afternoon. Most people had left … but still there were visitors, developers around. So maybe we can plan next year that some people stay longer (and maybe also arrive later). Which would have the added benefit of avoiding the Friday night beer event and subsequent hangover on Saturday. ;) Thanks to all the hard work booth staff; it was really great to meet you all again, -Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Cor Nouws wrote: Hi all, One idea for improvement: our booth finished at 5 this afternoon. Most people had left … but still there were visitors, developers around. So maybe we can plan next year that some people stay longer (and maybe also arrive later). We will have even better coverage then. interesting to hear that because it didn't looked so when we have left at ~4:15pm. One more thing that we can improve ;-) I very much enjoyed – regards, +++1 The many many emails in front of the event were definitely a good investment. Let me thank you all who where there and helped to make the OO.org presence at FOSDEM successful. Without you all it wouldn't have been possible and it again makes it clear why community work is really a lot of fun. I share the overall impression that it was a good event and that we have present our project quite well. The booth ... Our booth was always staffed very well and i think questions were always answered satisfying. Sophie made it comfortable and served coffee and cookies for the people behind and in front of the booth. It helped especially me on Sunday morning to wake up after the second long night and too many beers ;-) Mechthilde never got tired to answer questions with a motivation that was really awesome. I never have met her and also Michael in person before. I really enjoyed it. Our merchandising stuff was well accepted and we were able to collect useful donations that we can use for further activities. It shows that it is well invested money and we should take that into account for future events. From my point of view it has a double effect. People want it and they don't hesitate to give a donation for it. And not seldom much more than the minimal requested production price. And on the other side they promote our product/project by wearing the shirts or using cups etc. The DevRoom ... My impression was that more end users were there and that it is really hard to attract new core developers. I used the session slot from Robert (who was sick) to make an informal discussion session. We mainly answered questions related to Java development. From my point of view some interesting and useful discussion. Not really surprising for me but it showed again that people are interested to use OO.org in the backend for server applications. Most often for conversion or printing jobs. But also scripting and extensions development is of interest. My workshop was an experiment to bring some more practical stuff to the attendees. I have a mixed feeling because some people left the room because they hadn't a laptop that was a prerequisite that i already mentioned in the abstract. Others who really worked through the lab documentation appreciated the detailed lab documentation ... I think it is better placed at events where i can provide some hardware environment as well or completly online (i will publish it asap). Nevertheless i think the DevRoom was good and we should of course do it again. We have one year to lower the entry barrier for new developers and we should really work on it. I volunteer to organize our presence next year as well because i had a lot of fun and i got of course motivated to make it better the next time ;-) Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi all, Still on the train back home, maybe it is too early for a balanced evaluation. Nevertheless, a small report from my side. Thank you for it! [...jumping to ideas...] One idea for improvement: our booth finished at 5 this afternoon. Most people had left … but still there were visitors, developers around. So maybe we can plan next year that some people stay longer (and maybe also arrive later). We will have even better coverage then. May be make some small collections of dev pages from the wiki, exported as pdf and print copies of them, because I brought the programming book written by L. Godard and B.Marcelly and a lot of people ask for it in another language than French (which is not the Fosdem language ;) I very much enjoyed – regards, +1 :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi, I just arrived home (where it snowed last night :-) FOSDEM was great, I enjoyed it very much. Thanks to everyone involved, great job! Hope to see you again soon! Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
