Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-17 Thread Drew Jensen

On 2/12/2010 5:41 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hello,

according to the current Doodle poll at
http://www.doodle.com/5cnsa73dbc6hfd28, the 2nd marketing confcall is
most likely to take place

next Wednesday, February 17th, 1700 CET

If you haven't voted yet, please do so by Sunday, so I can fix the date
soon. Also don't forget to add your preferred agenta points to the wiki
at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls

Florian



Hi Florian,

Thanks again for getting this setup.

Sorry or being dense but just to be sure.

The call today is at 16:00UTC not 17:00 UTC is that correct?
So an hour form now roughly.

The number is the same as last time, and the one found on the wiki 
above, yes?


Thanks

Drew

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-17 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Drew,

Drew Jensen wrote on 2010-02-17 16.04:


Thanks again for getting this setup.


you're welcome.


Sorry or being dense but just to be sure.

The call today is at 16:00UTC not 17:00 UTC is that correct?
So an hour form now roughly.


Correct. 1600 UTC, 1700 German time.


The number is the same as last time, and the one found on the wiki
above, yes?


Right, just the PIN is different.

Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-17 Thread Isabelle Boulet


Hi, 


Will the call be recorded, for those who are unable to attend? 


Thanks, 
Isabelle 

Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-17 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@openoffice.org wrote:
 Hi Isabelle,

 Isabelle Boulet wrote on 2010-02-17 16.20:

 Will the call be recorded, for those who are unable to attend?

 we plan to, I hope it worked. :-)

 Florian

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is the recording still going on.

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[marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

according to the current Doodle poll at 
http://www.doodle.com/5cnsa73dbc6hfd28, the 2nd marketing confcall is 
most likely to take place


next Wednesday, February 17th, 1700 CET

If you haven't voted yet, please do so by Sunday, so I can fix the date 
soon. Also don't forget to add your preferred agenta points to the wiki 
at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls


Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Hi, Florian,

Florian Effenberger wrote:
 according to the current Doodle poll at
 http://www.doodle.com/5cnsa73dbc6hfd28, the 2nd marketing confcall is
 most likely to take place
 
 next Wednesday, February 17th, 1700 CET

Will we be able to start testing the SIP conference calling soon?
It'll take a few tries to refine the methods and instructions.

regards,
/Lars

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Lars,

Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-02-12 12.06:

Will we be able to start testing the SIP conference calling soon?
It'll take a few tries to refine the methods and instructions.


there's no need for SIP calls. We have a free hosting offer by talkyoo, 
they offer several landline dialins as well as Skype. So we don't need 
to struggle with SIP. :-)


Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote:

 We have a free hosting offer by talkyoo, they offer several landline
 dialins

Yes, it's a great start.  There are land-line dial-ins for Germany,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France, and The Netherlands.  What
is the ETA for the other countries with active OOo
localization teams?

 as well as Skype. So we don't need to struggle with SIP. :-)

The instructions on how to connect without Skype seem to be missing from
the page:

http://www.conference-call.me/

In addition to being proprietary in both the software and protocol,
Skype's not supported by more than a small fraction of the architectures
and platforms that OOo supports.

It'd be wonderful to take up Talkyoo's kind offer of sponsorship without
digging out a special machine for skype.

Regards
/Lars

(We don't need to belabor Skype's security history, it speaks for itself.)

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Lars,

Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-02-12 12.22:


Yes, it's a great start.  There are land-line dial-ins for Germany,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France, and The Netherlands.  What
is the ETA for the other countries with active OOo
localization teams?


not that I'm aware of. At the moment, I guess we're stuck with the 
dial-ins we have.



The instructions on how to connect without Skype seem to be missing from
the page:

http://www.conference-call.me/


It's user talkoo_skype, just add it and then you can join.


In addition to being proprietary in both the software and protocol,
Skype's not supported by more than a small fraction of the architectures
and platforms that OOo supports.


I know, but we've been through this discussion. SIP needs bandwith and 
doesn't work reliably behind NAT and firewalls.


I guess the current talkyoo offer is the best we can have for now. I'm 
open for other options, but the feedback received so far concerning 
alternatives tended to zero, so I consider talkyoo our best choice atm.


Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hi Lars,
 
 Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-02-12 12.22:
 
 Yes, it's a great start.  There are land-line dial-ins for Germany,
 Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France, and The Netherlands.  What
 is the ETA for the other countries with active OOo
 localization teams?
 
 not that I'm aware of. At the moment, I guess we're stuck with the
 dial-ins we have.
 
 The instructions on how to connect without Skype seem to be missing from
 the page:

 http://www.conference-call.me/
 
 It's user talkoo_skype, just add it and then you can join.

That would be connecting *with* skype.

 In addition to being proprietary in both the software and protocol,
 Skype's not supported by more than a small fraction of the architectures
 and platforms that OOo supports.
 
 I know, but we've been through this discussion. 

And the conclusion is the same.

 SIP needs bandwith and doesn't work reliably behind NAT and firewalls.

That may have been correct a while back, but not lately.

 I guess the current talkyoo offer is the best we can have for now. I'm
 open for other options, but the feedback received so far concerning
 alternatives tended to zero, so I consider talkyoo our best choice atm.

The Asterisk option looked good and that's where it looked like OOo
marketing was heading.  Talkyoo was presented as an SIP option, since it
was presented as a solution during discussions of finding SIP services.

I'm looking at Ekiga and it has conference services that any SIP client
can dial into.  What did your contact at talkyoo say about SIP or H323?
   Even skype supports (or claims to support) SIP so talkyoo might be
supporting it.

/Lars

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I wonder if there is additional slots of times, the schedule seems a
bit too early for me. Althought I am perfect on the 5-6 pm UTC I
wouldnt mind additional slots later that day.

On 2/12/10, Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org wrote:
 Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hi Lars,

 Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-02-12 12.22:

 Yes, it's a great start.  There are land-line dial-ins for Germany,
 Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France, and The Netherlands.  What
 is the ETA for the other countries with active OOo
 localization teams?

 not that I'm aware of. At the moment, I guess we're stuck with the
 dial-ins we have.

 The instructions on how to connect without Skype seem to be missing from
 the page:

 http://www.conference-call.me/

 It's user talkoo_skype, just add it and then you can join.

 That would be connecting *with* skype.

 In addition to being proprietary in both the software and protocol,
 Skype's not supported by more than a small fraction of the architectures
 and platforms that OOo supports.

 I know, but we've been through this discussion.

 And the conclusion is the same.

 SIP needs bandwith and doesn't work reliably behind NAT and firewalls.

 That may have been correct a while back, but not lately.

 I guess the current talkyoo offer is the best we can have for now. I'm
 open for other options, but the feedback received so far concerning
 alternatives tended to zero, so I consider talkyoo our best choice atm.

 The Asterisk option looked good and that's where it looked like OOo
 marketing was heading.  Talkyoo was presented as an SIP option, since it
 was presented as a solution during discussions of finding SIP services.

 I'm looking at Ekiga and it has conference services that any SIP client
 can dial into.  What did your contact at talkyoo say about SIP or H323?
Even skype supports (or claims to support) SIP so talkyoo might be
 supporting it.

 /Lars

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Alexandro,

Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-02-12 14.57:

I wonder if there is additional slots of times, the schedule seems a
bit too early for me. Althought I am perfect on the 5-6 pm UTC I
wouldnt mind additional slots later that day.


what time (in UTC) would be ok for you?

Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Alexandro Colorado
well extra slot besides 7pmUTC would be even better.

On 2/12/10, Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org wrote:
 Hi Alexandro,

 Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-02-12 14.57:
 I wonder if there is additional slots of times, the schedule seems a
 bit too early for me. Althought I am perfect on the 5-6 pm UTC I
 wouldnt mind additional slots later that day.

 what time (in UTC) would be ok for you?

 Florian

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Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-02-12 15.41:

well extra slot besides 7pmUTC would be even better.


the problem is, that I cannot attend then anymore. We have a little 
child in the house, and being loud on the phone in the late evening is a 
bit of a problem... :-(


Is before 7 pm UTC generally bad for you, or just on certain days?

Florian

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