Re: Setting goals for upcoming releases

2010-09-03 Thread Barrie Treloar
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Jason van Zyl  wrote:
> I write up a blog entry with the schedule and goals.
>
> i'll mention the construction if ITs and point to some examples.

These will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Maven 3 goals for release questions

2010-09-03 Thread Barrie Treloar
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Stephen Connolly
 wrote:
> On 3 September 2010 01:38, Barrie Treloar  wrote:
>> Automatic Plugin Version Resolution
>>
>>  Now that plugin versions are expected to be locked down in the pom
>> has the documentation been updated to describe how to manage the
>> version upgrades?
>>  For example there was a question on the list a while ago about a
>> tool to check whether new versions of dependencies were available and
>> to provide a report.
>>
>
> mvn versions:display-dependency-updates
>
>>  Something like that for plugins would also be needed.  The benefit
>>
>
> mvn versions:display-plugin-updates
>

Cheers,
I guess I'm also asking is this documented somewhere, perhaps with
some wisdom on why its important and the scenarios of how/when to
upgrade.
I know enough to be dangerous but I don't consider myself a build
management expert, otherwise I'd write it.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-beta-3 (take 2)

2010-09-03 Thread Vincent Siveton
+1

Vincent

2010/8/30 Benjamin Bentmann :
> Hi,
>
> what's a better start for a week than a new fresh release :-) ? So here we
> go!
>
> Apart from another few regression fixes, this release includes Guice and
> Aether [0] and shall help to get some more community testing on these new
> components.
>
> Overall, we solved 19 issues:
> http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&version=16681
>
> There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
> http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=10500&status=1
>
> Staging repo:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-157/
>
> Staged source and binary distros:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-157/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.0-beta-3/
>
> Guide to testing staged releases:
> http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
>
> Vote open for 72 hours.
>
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -1
>
> +1 from me
>
>
> Benjamin
>
>
> [0] http://github.com/sonatype/sonatype-aether
>
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Re: Setting goals for upcoming releases

2010-09-03 Thread Dan Tran
What I meant was to release maven 3.0, the dev needs to iron up most
of to backward compatibility blocking bugs.  ( no work around )

The bug I mentioned sound like a feature that is accidentally take out
of maven core which supports flat repository structure.

-Dan

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Jason van Zyl  wrote:
> I write up a blog entry with the schedule and goals.
>
> i'll mention the construction if ITs and point to some examples.
>
> On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Brian Fox wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Jason van Zyl  wrote:
>>> I think trying to release 3.0 sooner, and then sticking to 6 week release 
>>> cycles would be a better use of time. We're going to fix anything that 
>>> arises but I don't believe there will be widespread testing until 3.0 is 
>>> released, and I don't believe many will pick up 3.x in large-scale 
>>> production environments until 3.1. I think the faster we get 3.0 out the 
>>> better.
>>>
>>> Shoot for October 1st, and then have the 3.0.1 release with fixes for the 
>>> first wave of issues raised in mid-November.
>>>
>>
>> Fine with me. Then lets announce that intention to the user list now
>> and get the page updated to make it easy for people to find the betas.
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Brian Fox wrote:
>>>
 Now that Maven 3 beta 3 is out with Guice and Aether, we can pretty
 safely call it feature complete. I'd like to propose a few goals to
 get some things done. We have ApacheCon coming up the first week of
 November, and it would be great to set that as a target to get Maven
 3.0 out the door.

 So far the feedback on the betas has been good but fairly limited. I
 think that without a clear plan, and our history with this mammoth
 release, people are probably reluctant to spend a lot of time testing
 each beta. In the past we've been successful pushing out release
 candidate builds and involving the user list. If we start that
 soonish, there should be plenty of time to uncover and fix
 regressions, especially if everyone pitches in. There's even time to
 cut another beta before we launch into the RCs if it's needed.

 So first of all, Benjamin, Herve, Kristian you've collectively done
 the majority of the work in M3 recently. Do you think the above is
 achievable and desirable? What does everyone else think?

 Secondly, For me personally, I'm going to commit to get the Maven
 Index code committed and to push updated releases of the dependency
 and enforcer plugins before ApacheCon. Anyone else want to ante up for
 some chunk of work and get things rolling?

 Thanks,
 Brian

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>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
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>>>
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>>> No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow.
>>> They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically
>>> dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of
>>> dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or
>>> goals are in doubt.
>>>
>>>  -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Setting goals for upcoming releases

2010-09-03 Thread Jason van Zyl
I write up a blog entry with the schedule and goals.

i'll mention the construction if ITs and point to some examples.

On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Brian Fox wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Jason van Zyl  wrote:
>> I think trying to release 3.0 sooner, and then sticking to 6 week release 
>> cycles would be a better use of time. We're going to fix anything that 
>> arises but I don't believe there will be widespread testing until 3.0 is 
>> released, and I don't believe many will pick up 3.x in large-scale 
>> production environments until 3.1. I think the faster we get 3.0 out the 
>> better.
>> 
>> Shoot for October 1st, and then have the 3.0.1 release with fixes for the 
>> first wave of issues raised in mid-November.
>> 
> 
> Fine with me. Then lets announce that intention to the user list now
> and get the page updated to make it easy for people to find the betas.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Brian Fox wrote:
>> 
>>> Now that Maven 3 beta 3 is out with Guice and Aether, we can pretty
>>> safely call it feature complete. I'd like to propose a few goals to
>>> get some things done. We have ApacheCon coming up the first week of
>>> November, and it would be great to set that as a target to get Maven
>>> 3.0 out the door.
>>> 
>>> So far the feedback on the betas has been good but fairly limited. I
>>> think that without a clear plan, and our history with this mammoth
>>> release, people are probably reluctant to spend a lot of time testing
>>> each beta. In the past we've been successful pushing out release
>>> candidate builds and involving the user list. If we start that
>>> soonish, there should be plenty of time to uncover and fix
>>> regressions, especially if everyone pitches in. There's even time to
>>> cut another beta before we launch into the RCs if it's needed.
>>> 
>>> So first of all, Benjamin, Herve, Kristian you've collectively done
>>> the majority of the work in M3 recently. Do you think the above is
>>> achievable and desirable? What does everyone else think?
>>> 
>>> Secondly, For me personally, I'm going to commit to get the Maven
>>> Index code committed and to push updated releases of the dependency
>>> and enforcer plugins before ApacheCon. Anyone else want to ante up for
>>> some chunk of work and get things rolling?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian
>>> 
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>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> --
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> -
>> 
>> You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in.
>> No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow.
>> They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically
>> dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of
>> dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or
>> goals are in doubt.
>> 
>>  -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Thanks,

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Re: Fwd: [maven-release-plugin] Is it possible to configure maven-release-plugin to NOT pull in META-INF/LICENSE and NOTICE

2010-09-03 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Friday 03 September 2010 2:34:00 am han hongfang wrote:
> Forward to dev list to see if somebody has some advice for me on this
> question.

It's not the release plugin, it's the remote-resources plugin generating them.  
 
You would need to figure out where the remote-resources thing is configured.   
You don't mention which project, but if it's and Apache project using the 
Apache parent pom, that would be pulled in automatically.

Th easy fix is to rename your files to LICENSE and and NOTICE.   remote-
resources will not overwrite new files if existing files exist.

Dan



> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Han Hong Fang
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: han hongfang 
> Date: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:27 PM
> Subject: [maven-release-plugin] Is it possible to configure
> maven-release-plugin to NOT pull in META-INF/LICENSE and NOTICE
> To: us...@maven.apache.org
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Our project uses maven-release-plugin in the release process. We maintain
> the LICENSE.txt and NOTICE.txt (which contains module specifc statement)
> for each of our modules in subversion. When we issue mvn release:prepare,
> standard LICENSE and NOTICE files are pulled into META-INF folder of
> target artifact. These standard files are duplicated with LICENSE.txt and
> NOTICE.txt we maintained.
> 
> Is it possible to configure maven-release-plugin to not pull in these
> files? If yes, could you show me how to do it?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your reply!

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Re: Setting goals for upcoming releases

2010-09-03 Thread Jason van Zyl
It's not changing at this point.

On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Paul Benedict wrote:

> What are the plans for the .m2 user directory? I understand keeping it
> for migration purposes, but maybe you want to bring back .mvn (so it
> doesn't need to change per version).
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Brian Fox  wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Jason van Zyl  wrote:
>>> I think trying to release 3.0 sooner, and then sticking to 6 week release 
>>> cycles would be a better use of time. We're going to fix anything that 
>>> arises but I don't believe there will be widespread testing until 3.0 is 
>>> released, and I don't believe many will pick up 3.x in large-scale 
>>> production environments until 3.1. I think the faster we get 3.0 out the 
>>> better.
>>> 
>>> Shoot for October 1st, and then have the 3.0.1 release with fixes for the 
>>> first wave of issues raised in mid-November.
>>> 
>> 
>> Fine with me. Then lets announce that intention to the user list now
>> and get the page updated to make it easy for people to find the betas.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Brian Fox wrote:
>>> 
 Now that Maven 3 beta 3 is out with Guice and Aether, we can pretty
 safely call it feature complete. I'd like to propose a few goals to
 get some things done. We have ApacheCon coming up the first week of
 November, and it would be great to set that as a target to get Maven
 3.0 out the door.
 
 So far the feedback on the betas has been good but fairly limited. I
 think that without a clear plan, and our history with this mammoth
 release, people are probably reluctant to spend a lot of time testing
 each beta. In the past we've been successful pushing out release
 candidate builds and involving the user list. If we start that
 soonish, there should be plenty of time to uncover and fix
 regressions, especially if everyone pitches in. There's even time to
 cut another beta before we launch into the RCs if it's needed.
 
 So first of all, Benjamin, Herve, Kristian you've collectively done
 the majority of the work in M3 recently. Do you think the above is
 achievable and desirable? What does everyone else think?
 
 Secondly, For me personally, I'm going to commit to get the Maven
 Index code committed and to push updated releases of the dependency
 and enforcer plugins before ApacheCon. Anyone else want to ante up for
 some chunk of work and get things rolling?
 
 Thanks,
 Brian
 
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>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jason van Zyl
>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>> -
>>> 
>>> You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in.
>>> No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow.
>>> They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically
>>> dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of
>>> dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or
>>> goals are in doubt.
>>> 
>>>  -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow.
They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically
dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of 
dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or
goals are in doubt.

  -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance





Re: Setting goals for upcoming releases

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Benedict
What are the plans for the .m2 user directory? I understand keeping it
for migration purposes, but maybe you want to bring back .mvn (so it
doesn't need to change per version).

Paul

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Brian Fox  wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Jason van Zyl  wrote:
>> I think trying to release 3.0 sooner, and then sticking to 6 week release 
>> cycles would be a better use of time. We're going to fix anything that 
>> arises but I don't believe there will be widespread testing until 3.0 is 
>> released, and I don't believe many will pick up 3.x in large-scale 
>> production environments until 3.1. I think the faster we get 3.0 out the 
>> better.
>>
>> Shoot for October 1st, and then have the 3.0.1 release with fixes for the 
>> first wave of issues raised in mid-November.
>>
>
> Fine with me. Then lets announce that intention to the user list now
> and get the page updated to make it easy for people to find the betas.
>
>
>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Brian Fox wrote:
>>
>>> Now that Maven 3 beta 3 is out with Guice and Aether, we can pretty
>>> safely call it feature complete. I'd like to propose a few goals to
>>> get some things done. We have ApacheCon coming up the first week of
>>> November, and it would be great to set that as a target to get Maven
>>> 3.0 out the door.
>>>
>>> So far the feedback on the betas has been good but fairly limited. I
>>> think that without a clear plan, and our history with this mammoth
>>> release, people are probably reluctant to spend a lot of time testing
>>> each beta. In the past we've been successful pushing out release
>>> candidate builds and involving the user list. If we start that
>>> soonish, there should be plenty of time to uncover and fix
>>> regressions, especially if everyone pitches in. There's even time to
>>> cut another beta before we launch into the RCs if it's needed.
>>>
>>> So first of all, Benjamin, Herve, Kristian you've collectively done
>>> the majority of the work in M3 recently. Do you think the above is
>>> achievable and desirable? What does everyone else think?
>>>
>>> Secondly, For me personally, I'm going to commit to get the Maven
>>> Index code committed and to push updated releases of the dependency
>>> and enforcer plugins before ApacheCon. Anyone else want to ante up for
>>> some chunk of work and get things rolling?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian
>>>
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>>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> --
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> -
>>
>> You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in.
>> No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow.
>> They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically
>> dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of
>> dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or
>> goals are in doubt.
>>
>>  -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Setting goals for upcoming releases

2010-09-03 Thread Brian Fox
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Jason van Zyl  wrote:
> I think trying to release 3.0 sooner, and then sticking to 6 week release 
> cycles would be a better use of time. We're going to fix anything that arises 
> but I don't believe there will be widespread testing until 3.0 is released, 
> and I don't believe many will pick up 3.x in large-scale production 
> environments until 3.1. I think the faster we get 3.0 out the better.
>
> Shoot for October 1st, and then have the 3.0.1 release with fixes for the 
> first wave of issues raised in mid-November.
>

Fine with me. Then lets announce that intention to the user list now
and get the page updated to make it easy for people to find the betas.


> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Brian Fox wrote:
>
>> Now that Maven 3 beta 3 is out with Guice and Aether, we can pretty
>> safely call it feature complete. I'd like to propose a few goals to
>> get some things done. We have ApacheCon coming up the first week of
>> November, and it would be great to set that as a target to get Maven
>> 3.0 out the door.
>>
>> So far the feedback on the betas has been good but fairly limited. I
>> think that without a clear plan, and our history with this mammoth
>> release, people are probably reluctant to spend a lot of time testing
>> each beta. In the past we've been successful pushing out release
>> candidate builds and involving the user list. If we start that
>> soonish, there should be plenty of time to uncover and fix
>> regressions, especially if everyone pitches in. There's even time to
>> cut another beta before we launch into the RCs if it's needed.
>>
>> So first of all, Benjamin, Herve, Kristian you've collectively done
>> the majority of the work in M3 recently. Do you think the above is
>> achievable and desirable? What does everyone else think?
>>
>> Secondly, For me personally, I'm going to commit to get the Maven
>> Index code committed and to push updated releases of the dependency
>> and enforcer plugins before ApacheCon. Anyone else want to ante up for
>> some chunk of work and get things rolling?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>>
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
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> Founder,  Apache Maven
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> -
>
> You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in.
> No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow.
> They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically
> dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of
> dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or
> goals are in doubt.
>
>  -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
>
>
>
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Re: Welcome Kristian Rosenvold to the Maven PMC

2010-09-03 Thread Jason van Zyl
Woo hoo!

On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Brian Fox wrote:

> This is a little delayed, but still deserved. A few weeks ago,
> Kristian joined us on the Maven PMC. He's been driving a lot of
> interesting work in Maven 3 to support parallel builds. If you haven't
> tried that out yet, please do and send some feedback.
> 
> Welcome Kristian!
> 
> --Brian Fox
> Maven PMC Chair
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Thanks,

Jason

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Re: Setting goals for upcoming releases

2010-09-03 Thread Jason van Zyl

On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:46 PM, Dan Tran wrote:

> I think i agree with Jason on shooting maven 3.0 out to public as soon
> as you can, however the dev team might want fix up blocking bugs which
> prevent user like me from using maven 3
> 
> one of the blocking bug for me is http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-4788
> 

Benjamin has done an enormous amount of testing in plugins, and we told people 
over 6 months ago that if they wanted to be prepared for 3.0 then start writing 
ITs for their plugins as we suggested. We can't write ITs for every plugin that 
exists. There was plenty of warning.

If you want to make sure your plugin works with Maven 3.x then get some ITs in 
place and then we will help you wire your tests into the grid.

We should probably publicize this now. As good ITs in plugins only help us find 
regressions, but we can't write tests for everything.

> Thanks
> 
> -Dan
> 
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Mark Derricutt  wrote:
>> Personally I'd still like to see some resolution to the problems introduced
>> by the version range resolution change ( no more -SNAPSHOT resolution except
>> for on the bounds ).
>> 
>> On one hand I applaud the change from a release standpoint, but it currently
>> causes issues for our integration build processes.
>> 
>> Two options come to mind:
>> 
>> 1) Explicit GAV patterns for -SNAPSHOT resolution get defined somewhere
>> 2) If a GAV is a particpant in a reactor build, it's -SNAPSHOT should be
>> considered kosher for resolution
>> 
>> Option 1 would probably require some form of POM change as I don't think the
>> resolution part of a configurable plugin, so most likely can't be done.
>> 
>> Option 2 should be fine, as when releasing an individual artifact, nothing
>> external would be in the reactor, unless it was part of the build chain, so
>> no extraneous -SNAPSHOTs would be considered.  This should give a fairly
>> good compromise between "fixing ranges for release" and "not breaking
>> existing builds".
>> 
>> Each time I've brought the subject up I don't seem to see any traction or
>> replies/discussion come along, is there room to address this somehow?
>> 
>> --
>> Pull me down under...
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Brian Fox  wrote:
>> 
>>> Now that Maven 3 beta 3 is out with Guice and Aether, we can pretty
>>> safely call it feature complete. I'd like to propose a few goals to
>>> get some things done. We have ApacheCon coming up the first week of
>>> November, and it would be great to set that as a target to get Maven
>>> 3.0 out the door.
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Welcome Kristian Rosenvold to the Maven PMC

2010-09-03 Thread Stephane Nicoll
Congrats Kristian!

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Brian Fox  wrote:

> This is a little delayed, but still deserved. A few weeks ago,
> Kristian joined us on the Maven PMC. He's been driving a lot of
> interesting work in Maven 3 to support parallel builds. If you haven't
> tried that out yet, please do and send some feedback.
>
> Welcome Kristian!
>
> --Brian Fox
> Maven PMC Chair
>
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Re: Setting goals for upcoming releases

2010-09-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1

On 3 September 2010 01:44, Jason van Zyl  wrote:

> I think trying to release 3.0 sooner, and then sticking to 6 week release
> cycles would be a better use of time. We're going to fix anything that
> arises but I don't believe there will be widespread testing until 3.0 is
> released, and I don't believe many will pick up 3.x in large-scale
> production environments until 3.1. I think the faster we get 3.0 out the
> better.
>
> Shoot for October 1st, and then have the 3.0.1 release with fixes for the
> first wave of issues raised in mid-November.
>
> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Brian Fox wrote:
>
> > Now that Maven 3 beta 3 is out with Guice and Aether, we can pretty
> > safely call it feature complete. I'd like to propose a few goals to
> > get some things done. We have ApacheCon coming up the first week of
> > November, and it would be great to set that as a target to get Maven
> > 3.0 out the door.
> >
> > So far the feedback on the betas has been good but fairly limited. I
> > think that without a clear plan, and our history with this mammoth
> > release, people are probably reluctant to spend a lot of time testing
> > each beta. In the past we've been successful pushing out release
> > candidate builds and involving the user list. If we start that
> > soonish, there should be plenty of time to uncover and fix
> > regressions, especially if everyone pitches in. There's even time to
> > cut another beta before we launch into the RCs if it's needed.
> >
> > So first of all, Benjamin, Herve, Kristian you've collectively done
> > the majority of the work in M3 recently. Do you think the above is
> > achievable and desirable? What does everyone else think?
> >
> > Secondly, For me personally, I'm going to commit to get the Maven
> > Index code committed and to push updated releases of the dependency
> > and enforcer plugins before ApacheCon. Anyone else want to ante up for
> > some chunk of work and get things rolling?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> >
> > -
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> >
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> --
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder,  Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> -
>
> You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in.
> No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow.
> They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically
> dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of
> dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or
> goals are in doubt.
>
>  -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
>
>
>
>


Re: Maven 3 goals for release questions

2010-09-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 3 September 2010 01:38, Barrie Treloar  wrote:

> I didn't want to hijack the other thread with my questions after
> reading https://cwiki.apache.org/MAVEN/maven-3x-compatibility-notes.html
>
> Caching of Artifact Resolution Errors
>
>  Marker files are great!  Is there any documentation on what they
> are?  The maven-eclipse-plugin has the hack I added with marker files.
>  Standardizing on the marker file will be the first thing I do once I
> know what do use.
>
> Automatic Plugin Version Resolution
>
>  Now that plugin versions are expected to be locked down in the pom
> has the documentation been updated to describe how to manage the
> version upgrades?
>  For example there was a question on the list a while ago about a
> tool to check whether new versions of dependencies were available and
> to provide a report.
>

mvn versions:display-dependency-updates


>  Something like that for plugins would also be needed.  The benefit
>

mvn versions:display-plugin-updates


> of not locking them down was I got the latest releases without doing
> anything.
>  The downside was the build was not reproducible and if the new
> plugin had bugs I would need to lock down the plugin to the previous
> working version.
>  Some guidance on how to manage this lifecyle would be appreciated by
> less experienced build managers.
>
> Plugin Repositories > "Maven 3 aims at supporting a stricter
> separation between the compile/runtime/test dependencies"
>
>  Has the
> http://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-dependency-mechanism.html
> > Dependency Scope been modified to define "test compile" and "test
> runtime"?
>  Without something like this dependency:analyze has false positives
> with test scopes and a lot of the benefit of checking is lost.
>  Is this possible and on the feature list?
>
> Cheers
>
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Re: Setting goals for upcoming releases

2010-09-03 Thread Stephane Nicoll
+1

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Jason van Zyl  wrote:

> I think trying to release 3.0 sooner, and then sticking to 6 week release
> cycles would be a better use of time. We're going to fix anything that
> arises but I don't believe there will be widespread testing until 3.0 is
> released, and I don't believe many will pick up 3.x in large-scale
> production environments until 3.1. I think the faster we get 3.0 out the
> better.
>
> Shoot for October 1st, and then have the 3.0.1 release with fixes for the
> first wave of issues raised in mid-November.
>
> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Brian Fox wrote:
>
> > Now that Maven 3 beta 3 is out with Guice and Aether, we can pretty
> > safely call it feature complete. I'd like to propose a few goals to
> > get some things done. We have ApacheCon coming up the first week of
> > November, and it would be great to set that as a target to get Maven
> > 3.0 out the door.
> >
> > So far the feedback on the betas has been good but fairly limited. I
> > think that without a clear plan, and our history with this mammoth
> > release, people are probably reluctant to spend a lot of time testing
> > each beta. In the past we've been successful pushing out release
> > candidate builds and involving the user list. If we start that
> > soonish, there should be plenty of time to uncover and fix
> > regressions, especially if everyone pitches in. There's even time to
> > cut another beta before we launch into the RCs if it's needed.
> >
> > So first of all, Benjamin, Herve, Kristian you've collectively done
> > the majority of the work in M3 recently. Do you think the above is
> > achievable and desirable? What does everyone else think?
> >
> > Secondly, For me personally, I'm going to commit to get the Maven
> > Index code committed and to push updated releases of the dependency
> > and enforcer plugins before ApacheCon. Anyone else want to ante up for
> > some chunk of work and get things rolling?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
> >
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> --
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder,  Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> -
>
> You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in.
> No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow.
> They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically
> dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of
> dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or
> goals are in doubt.
>
>  -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
>
>
>
>


Fwd: [maven-release-plugin] Is it possible to configure maven-release-plugin to NOT pull in META-INF/LICENSE and NOTICE

2010-09-03 Thread han hongfang
Forward to dev list to see if somebody has some advice for me on this
question.

Best regards,

Han Hong Fang

-- Forwarded message --
From: han hongfang 
Date: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:27 PM
Subject: [maven-release-plugin] Is it possible to configure
maven-release-plugin to NOT pull in META-INF/LICENSE and NOTICE
To: us...@maven.apache.org



Hi,

Our project uses maven-release-plugin in the release process. We maintain
the LICENSE.txt and NOTICE.txt (which contains module specifc statement) for
each of our modules in subversion. When we issue mvn release:prepare,
standard LICENSE and NOTICE files are pulled into META-INF folder of target
artifact. These standard files are duplicated with LICENSE.txt and
NOTICE.txt we maintained.

Is it possible to configure maven-release-plugin to not pull in these files?
If yes, could you show me how to do it?

Thanks in advance for your reply!

-- 
Best regards,

Han Hong Fang



-- 
Best regards,

Han Hong Fang