Interesting java8 bug....

2014-10-09 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
It would appear that the ThreadPoolExecutor in UNIXProcess can keep
the vm running for up to 12 seconds after the last process has been
forked. Once you see the symptom it is clearly visible; maven appears
to finish the build normally, but there is a short pause after this
message and the return of the command prompt:

[INFO] 
[INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
[INFO] 
[INFO] Total time: 2.155s
[INFO] Finished at: Thu Oct 09 08:07:38 CEST 2014
[INFO] Final Memory: 14M/334M
[INFO] 
Insert pause here


The issue is https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEXEC-145 and applies to
a truckload of maven stuff since we fork a lot of processes, the bug
only seems to affect VM shutdown (which is also NOT very good since we
fork a lot of VM's too :).

I searched the jdk issue tracker but could not find any evidence of
this bug, hence the cc to Rory.

Kristian

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Re: Interesting java8 bug....

2014-10-09 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Making minimal test cases is always interesting :)

It appears there is some additional constraint that needs to be
satisfied, so further research needs to be done to determine the exact
cause of the problem.

It does seem to affect most of the forking code in maven, which should
imply some kind of interaction with commons-exec or plexus-utils.

Kristian

2014-10-09 9:18 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
rory.odonn...@oracle.com:
 Hi Kristian,

 Can you log a Java Incident and I will follow up ?

 Rgds,Rory

 On 09/10/2014 07:14, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:

 It would appear that the ThreadPoolExecutor in UNIXProcess can keep
 the vm running for up to 12 seconds after the last process has been
 forked. Once you see the symptom it is clearly visible; maven appears
 to finish the build normally, but there is a short pause after this
 message and the return of the command prompt:

 [INFO]
 
 [INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
 [INFO]
 
 [INFO] Total time: 2.155s
 [INFO] Finished at: Thu Oct 09 08:07:38 CEST 2014
 [INFO] Final Memory: 14M/334M
 [INFO]
 
 Insert pause here


 The issue is https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEXEC-145 and applies to
 a truckload of maven stuff since we fork a lot of processes, the bug
 only seems to affect VM shutdown (which is also NOT very good since we
 fork a lot of VM's too :).

 I searched the jdk issue tracker but could not find any evidence of
 this bug, hence the cc to Rory.

 Kristian


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Re: Interesting java8 bug....

2014-10-09 Thread Holger Hoffstätte
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:18:34 +0100, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
wrote:

 Can you log a Java Incident and I will follow up ?

I am quite certain the problem has to do with tiered compilation being
on by default in JDK8 and kicking in/still running while the VM tries
to exit after a brief run. So far the best way I found to mitigate this
problem is to set

  -XX:CICompilerCount=1 -XX:TieredStopAtLevel=1

in $MAVEN_OPTS. That seems to work for me, and gives much faster
and more consistent startup times as well. The fact that less code
is JITted early does not seem to matter much.

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Re: Interesting java8 bug....

2014-10-09 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Wow, that certainly fixed the problem. Stuff seems noticeably faster,
too ! Do you know if this has been reported to the JDK ?

Kristian


2014-10-09 10:41 GMT+02:00 Holger Hoffstätte
holger.hoffstae...@googlemail.com:
 On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:18:34 +0100, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
 wrote:

 Can you log a Java Incident and I will follow up ?

 I am quite certain the problem has to do with tiered compilation being
 on by default in JDK8 and kicking in/still running while the VM tries
 to exit after a brief run. So far the best way I found to mitigate this
 problem is to set

   -XX:CICompilerCount=1 -XX:TieredStopAtLevel=1

 in $MAVEN_OPTS. That seems to work for me, and gives much faster
 and more consistent startup times as well. The fact that less code
 is JITted early does not seem to matter much.

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Re: Interesting java8 bug....

2014-10-09 Thread Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland

Hi Kristian,

you can log an incident at bugs.sun.com. Pass me the incident number and
I will monitor it's progress.

Rgds,Rory
On 09/10/2014 09:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:

Making minimal test cases is always interesting :)

It appears there is some additional constraint that needs to be
satisfied, so further research needs to be done to determine the exact
cause of the problem.

It does seem to affect most of the forking code in maven, which should
imply some kind of interaction with commons-exec or plexus-utils.

Kristian

2014-10-09 9:18 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
rory.odonn...@oracle.com:

Hi Kristian,

Can you log a Java Incident and I will follow up ?

Rgds,Rory

On 09/10/2014 07:14, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:

It would appear that the ThreadPoolExecutor in UNIXProcess can keep
the vm running for up to 12 seconds after the last process has been
forked. Once you see the symptom it is clearly visible; maven appears
to finish the build normally, but there is a short pause after this
message and the return of the command prompt:

[INFO]

[INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
[INFO]

[INFO] Total time: 2.155s
[INFO] Finished at: Thu Oct 09 08:07:38 CEST 2014
[INFO] Final Memory: 14M/334M
[INFO]

Insert pause here


The issue is https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEXEC-145 and applies to
a truckload of maven stuff since we fork a lot of processes, the bug
only seems to affect VM shutdown (which is also NOT very good since we
fork a lot of VM's too :).

I searched the jdk issue tracker but could not find any evidence of
this bug, hence the cc to Rory.

Kristian


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Re: Interesting java8 bug....

2014-10-09 Thread Dawid Weiss
Hi Holger,

 I am quite certain the problem has to do with tiered compilation being
 on by default in JDK8 and kicking in/still

Isn't it on by default in JDK7 as well (last I can remember it was
turned on in one of the builds and stayed on).

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Re: Interesting java8 bug....

2014-10-09 Thread Holger Hoffstätte
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 10:54:35 +0200, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:

 Wow, that certainly fixed the problem. Stuff seems noticeably faster,
 too ! Do you know if this has been reported to the JDK ?

Good to know that you see the same effect. :)
I think I read that the JRuby folks set this by default as well.

No idea if this has been reported; it's not citical for anything that
stays running for more than a few seconds, and since it's so very
timing-dependent/not easily reproducible probably nobody has
noticed/investigated yet..

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Early Access builds for JDK 9 b33 and JDK 8u40 b09 are available on java.net

2014-10-09 Thread Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland

Hi Robert  Kristian,

Early Access build for JDK 9 b33 https://jdk9.java.net/download/ is 
available on java.net, summary of changes are listed here 
http://www.java.net/download/jdk9/changes/jdk9-b33.html


Early Access build for JDK 8u40 b09 http://jdk8.java.net/download.html 
is available on java.net, summary of changes are listed here. 
http://www.java.net/download/jdk8u40/changes/jdk8u40-b09.html


Rgds,Rory

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Source Plugin version 2.4

2014-10-09 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi,


here is my +1 for this release.

On 10/7/14 9:45 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:

Hi,

We solved 4 issues:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11147version=20597


There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
http://jira.codehaus.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MSOURCES%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20ORDER%20BY%20key%20DESC%2C%20priority%20DESC


Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1072/

http://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1072/org/apache/maven/plugins/maven-source-plugin/2.4/maven-source-plugin-2.4-source-release.zip


Source release checksum(s):
maven-source-plugin-2.4-source-release.zip sha1:
da0d6e369f4841d018ccd29d44f3b70afb42d662


Staging site:
http://maven.apache.org/plugins-archives/maven-source-plugin-LATEST/

Guide to testing staged releases:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

Vote open for 72 hours.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven LinkCheck Plugin version 1.2

2014-10-09 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi,

here is my +1.

On 10/8/14 1:30 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:

Hi,

We solved 7 issues:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12100version=16906


There is still one issues left in JIRA:
http://jira.codehaus.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MLINKCHECK%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC


Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1073

http://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1073/org/apache/maven/plugins/maven-linkcheck-plugin/1.2/maven-linkcheck-plugin-1.2-source-release.zip


Source release checksum(s):
maven-linkcheck-plugin-1.2-source-release.zip sha1:
ee5ffd6fa81a9d49fd833bb78f1730283ef18df4

Staging site:
http://maven.apache.org/plugins-archives/maven-linkcheck-plugin-LATEST/

Guide to testing staged releases:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

Vote open for 72 hours.

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Re: svn commit: r1630358 [1/6] - in /maven/plugins/trunk: maven-acr-plugin/ maven-ant-plugin/ maven-antrun-plugin/ maven-assembly-plugin/ maven-changelog-plugin/ maven-changes-plugin/ maven-checkstyle

2014-10-09 Thread Robert Scholte

Hi Karl-Heinz,

there was a discussion about this: are LICENSE and NOTICE also required  
for the project-roots or only for the distributions? The latter is already  
done.


Please read http://maven.markmail.org/thread/jlw4rjte2snu4tck

thanks,
Robert

Op Thu, 09 Oct 2014 11:49:33 +0200 schreef khmarba...@apache.org:


Author: khmarbaise
Date: Thu Oct  9 09:49:32 2014
New Revision: 1630358

URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1630358
Log:
- Added to all plugins LICENSE file
- Added to all plugins NOTICE file with copyright year 2007-2014

Added:
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-acr-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-acr-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-ant-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-ant-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-antrun-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-antrun-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-assembly-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-assembly-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changelog-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changelog-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-checkstyle-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-checkstyle-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-clean-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-clean-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-compiler-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-compiler-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-dependency-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-dependency-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-deploy-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-deploy-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-doap-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-doap-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-docck-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-docck-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-ear-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-ear-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-eclipse-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-eclipse-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-ejb-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-ejb-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-gpg-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-gpg-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-help-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-help-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-invoker-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-invoker-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-jar-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-jar-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-jarsigner-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-jarsigner-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-javadoc-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-javadoc-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-linkcheck-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-linkcheck-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-patch-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-patch-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-pdf-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-pdf-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-plugins/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-pmd-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-pmd-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-project-info-reports-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-project-info-reports-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-rar-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-rar-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-remote-resources-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-remote-resources-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-repository-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-repository-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-resources-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-resources-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-scm-publish-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-scm-publish-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-shade-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-shade-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-site-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-site-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-source-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-source-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-stage-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-stage-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-toolchains-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-toolchains-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-verifier-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-verifier-plugin/NOTICE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-war-plugin/LICENSE
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-war-plugin/NOTICE
Modified:
maven/plugins/trunk/maven-install-plugin/NOTICE

Added: maven/plugins/trunk/maven-acr-plugin/LICENSE
URL:  
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/plugins/trunk/maven-acr-plugin/LICENSE?rev=1630358view=auto

==
--- 

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven LinkCheck Plugin version 1.2

2014-10-09 Thread Robert Scholte
Op Wed, 08 Oct 2014 22:35:08 +0200 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise  
khmarba...@gmx.de:



Hi Robert,



  +1 for the code/artifact


I'm a bit surprised by the site. The menu seems outdated: e.g. it
contains a reference to maven-1.x



Do you mean the links under Maven Projects ?



Yes


Kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise


thanks,
Robert

Op Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:30:19 +0200 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
khmarba...@gmx.de:


Hi,

We solved 7 issues:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12100version=16906


There is still one issues left in JIRA:
http://jira.codehaus.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MLINKCHECK%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC


Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1073

http://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1073/org/apache/maven/plugins/maven-linkcheck-plugin/1.2/maven-linkcheck-plugin-1.2-source-release.zip


Source release checksum(s):
maven-linkcheck-plugin-1.2-source-release.zip sha1:
ee5ffd6fa81a9d49fd833bb78f1730283ef18df4

Staging site:
http://maven.apache.org/plugins-archives/maven-linkcheck-plugin-LATEST/

Guide to testing staged releases:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

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Assembly plugin bug scrub

2014-10-09 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
With plexus-io (2.1.4) and plexus-archiver (2.6.4) in a smashing
state, I figured I'd go bug scrubbing in assembly-plugin,
which has a bug list the size of something big. I am planning to
release in the second half of next week, if anyone wants to chip in !

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Re: svn commit: r1630358 [1/6] - in /maven/plugins/trunk: maven-acr-plugin/ maven-ant-plugin/ maven-antrun-plugin/ maven-assembly-plugin/ maven-changelog-plugin/ maven-changes-plugin/ maven-checkstyle

2014-10-09 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi Robert,

On 10/9/14 7:23 PM, Robert Scholte wrote:

there was a discussion about this: are LICENSE and NOTICE also required
for the project-roots or only for the distributions? The latter is
already done.


For the distribution archives i know...so you don't see the need at the 
momemt for adding them in svn ?


I can simply undone this...

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Re: Assembly plugin bug scrub

2014-10-09 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi Kristian,

On 10/9/14 7:31 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:

With plexus-io (2.1.4) and plexus-archiver (2.6.4) in a smashing
state, I figured I'd go bug scrubbing in assembly-plugin,
which has a bug list the size of something big. I am planning to
release in the second half of next week, if anyone wants to chip in !


I'm already on some of the issues...If i can help...sure...two pair of 
eyes see more than one pair of eyes...



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Re: svn commit: r1630358 [1/6] - in /maven/plugins/trunk: maven-acr-plugin/ maven-ant-plugin/ maven-antrun-plugin/ maven-assembly-plugin/ maven-changelog-plugin/ maven-changes-plugin/ maven-checkstyle

2014-10-09 Thread Robert Scholte
Putting them in the svn project roots would mean maintenance, e.g. the  
generated LICENSE auto-updates the years.

For that reason I wouldn't put them there.
IIRC the ASF is not very clear about it, so for that reason there hasn't  
been made a real decision.


thanks,
Robert

Op Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:03:05 +0200 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise  
khmarba...@gmx.de:



Hi Robert,

On 10/9/14 7:23 PM, Robert Scholte wrote:

there was a discussion about this: are LICENSE and NOTICE also required
for the project-roots or only for the distributions? The latter is
already done.


For the distribution archives i know...so you don't see the need at the  
momemt for adding them in svn ?


I can simply undone this...

Kind regards
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Re: svn commit: r1630358 [1/6] - in /maven/plugins/trunk: maven-acr-plugin/ maven-ant-plugin/ maven-antrun-plugin/ maven-assembly-plugin/ maven-changelog-plugin/ maven-changes-plugin/ maven-checkstyle

2014-10-09 Thread Dennis Lundberg
If  I recall correctly, we are still waiting for a response whether this is
necessary or not. Personally I'm against adding these files in version
control because of the unwanted maintenance, as Robert noted. Remember that
we have over 100 release roots that we need to maintain.

--
Dennis Lundberg
Den 9 okt 2014 20:47 skrev Robert Scholte rfscho...@apache.org:

 Putting them in the svn project roots would mean maintenance, e.g. the
 generated LICENSE auto-updates the years.
 For that reason I wouldn't put them there.
 IIRC the ASF is not very clear about it, so for that reason there hasn't
 been made a real decision.

 thanks,
 Robert

 Op Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:03:05 +0200 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise 
 khmarba...@gmx.de:

  Hi Robert,

 On 10/9/14 7:23 PM, Robert Scholte wrote:

 there was a discussion about this: are LICENSE and NOTICE also required
 for the project-roots or only for the distributions? The latter is
 already done.


 For the distribution archives i know...so you don't see the need at the
 momemt for adding them in svn ?

 I can simply undone this...

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Re: svn commit: r1630358 [1/6] - in /maven/plugins/trunk: maven-acr-plugin/ maven-ant-plugin/ maven-antrun-plugin/ maven-assembly-plugin/ maven-changelog-plugin/ maven-changes-plugin/ maven-checkstyle

2014-10-09 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi,


So it would be better to remove them...sorry for this...

Ok...i will undo the change...

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise


corret
On 10/9/14 10:28 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:

If  I recall correctly, we are still waiting for a response whether this is
necessary or not. Personally I'm against adding these files in version
control because of the unwanted maintenance, as Robert noted. Remember that
we have over 100 release roots that we need to maintain.

--
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Den 9 okt 2014 20:47 skrev Robert Scholte rfscho...@apache.org:


Putting them in the svn project roots would mean maintenance, e.g. the
generated LICENSE auto-updates the years.
For that reason I wouldn't put them there.
IIRC the ASF is not very clear about it, so for that reason there hasn't
been made a real decision.

thanks,
Robert

Op Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:03:05 +0200 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise 
khmarba...@gmx.de:

  Hi Robert,


On 10/9/14 7:23 PM, Robert Scholte wrote:


there was a discussion about this: are LICENSE and NOTICE also required
for the project-roots or only for the distributions? The latter is
already done.



For the distribution archives i know...so you don't see the need at the
momemt for adding them in svn ?

I can simply undone this...

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Re: svn commit: r1630358 [1/6] - in /maven/plugins/trunk: maven-acr-plugin/ maven-ant-plugin/ maven-antrun-plugin/ maven-assembly-plugin/ maven-changelog-plugin/ maven-changes-plugin/ maven-checkstyle

2014-10-09 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi,

undone the change...

Kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise
On 10/9/14 10:34 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:

Hi,


So it would be better to remove them...sorry for this...

Ok...i will undo the change...

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise


corret
On 10/9/14 10:28 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:

If  I recall correctly, we are still waiting for a response whether
this is
necessary or not. Personally I'm against adding these files in version
control because of the unwanted maintenance, as Robert noted. Remember
that
we have over 100 release roots that we need to maintain.

--
Dennis Lundberg
Den 9 okt 2014 20:47 skrev Robert Scholte rfscho...@apache.org:


Putting them in the svn project roots would mean maintenance, e.g. the
generated LICENSE auto-updates the years.
For that reason I wouldn't put them there.
IIRC the ASF is not very clear about it, so for that reason there hasn't
been made a real decision.

thanks,
Robert

Op Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:03:05 +0200 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise 
khmarba...@gmx.de:

  Hi Robert,


On 10/9/14 7:23 PM, Robert Scholte wrote:


there was a discussion about this: are LICENSE and NOTICE also
required
for the project-roots or only for the distributions? The latter is
already done.



For the distribution archives i know...so you don't see the need at the
momemt for adding them in svn ?

I can simply undone this...

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise


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