Fwd: Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)
there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not routed to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is not good for community, IMHO is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@? Regards, Hervé -- Message transmit -- Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3) Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12 De : Dave Moten notificati...@github.com À : apache/maven ma...@noreply.github.com CC : Hervé Boutemy herve.bout...@free.fr I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins maximising type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that the plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the process. I used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code. I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able to check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if real type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml sometime? Thanks for chasing it. D On 25 May 2014 18:14, Hervé Boutemy notificati...@github.com wrote: on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward on a practical one: 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you always let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of plugin developers)? 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration element content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello generates the xsd from .mdo? I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo I wrote to at least document the descriptor from a human point of view (ie not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element) — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f4083fd890fc47a#commitcomment-6439921 . --- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f4083fd890fc47a#commitcomment-6440111 - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fwd: Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)
With a virtual account using this address and subscribing to github notifications ?— Sent from Mailbox On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote: there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not routed to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is not good for community, IMHO is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@? Regards, Hervé -- Message transmit -- Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3) Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12 De : Dave Moten notificati...@github.com À : apache/maven ma...@noreply.github.com CC : Hervé Boutemy herve.bout...@free.fr I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins maximising type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that the plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the process. I used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code. I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able to check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if real type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml sometime? Thanks for chasing it. D On 25 May 2014 18:14, Hervé Boutemy notificati...@github.com wrote: on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward on a practical one: 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you always let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of plugin developers)? 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration element content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello generates the xsd from .mdo? I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo I wrote to at least document the descriptor from a human point of view (ie not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element) — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f4083fd890fc47a#commitcomment-6439921 . --- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f4083fd890fc47a#commitcomment-6440111 - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fwd: Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)
anybody knows how it is done for PR? because it works well here: don't know if it could be extended to discussions trying to cross-post to infra@ Regards, Hervé Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 03:06:37 Arnaud Héritier a écrit : With a virtual account using this address and subscribing to github notifications ?— Sent from Mailbox On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote: there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not routed to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is not good for community, IMHO is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@? Regards, Hervé -- Message transmit -- Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3) Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12 De : Dave Moten notificati...@github.com À : apache/maven ma...@noreply.github.com CC : Hervé Boutemy herve.bout...@free.fr I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins maximising type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that the plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the process. I used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code. I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able to check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if real type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml sometime? Thanks for chasing it. D On 25 May 2014 18:14, Hervé Boutemy notificati...@github.com wrote: on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward on a practical one: 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you always let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of plugin developers)? 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration element content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello generates the xsd from .mdo? I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo I wrote to at least document the descriptor from a human point of view (ie not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element) — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f40 83fd890fc47a#commitcomment-6439921 . --- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f4083fd890 fc47a#commitcomment-6440111 - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Fwd: Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)
Jira issue opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7803[1] and configuration done by Humbedooh for every Maven repo mirrored to github thank you Humbedooh Hervé Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 12:17:53 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : anybody knows how it is done for PR? because it works well here: don't know if it could be extended to discussions trying to cross-post to infra@ Regards, Hervé Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 03:06:37 Arnaud Héritier a écrit : With a virtual account using this address and subscribing to github notifications ?— Sent from Mailbox On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote: there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not routed to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is not good for community, IMHO is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@? Regards, Hervé -- Message transmit -- Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3) Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12 De : Dave Moten notificati...@github.com À : apache/maven ma...@noreply.github.com CC : Hervé Boutemy herve.bout...@free.fr I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins maximising type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that the plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the process. I used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code. I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able to check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if real type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml sometime? Thanks for chasing it. D On 25 May 2014 18:14, Hervé Boutemy notificati...@github.com wrote: on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward on a practical one: 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you always let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of plugin developers)? 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration element content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello generates the xsd from .mdo? I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo I wrote to at least document the descriptor from a human point of view (ie not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element) — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f 40 83fd890fc47a#commitcomment-6439921 . --- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f4083fd8 90 fc47a#commitcomment-6440111 - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7803
Re: Fwd: Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)
just for reference, here is the feature annoucement: https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/improved_integration_between_apache_and Regards, Hervé Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 12:36:59 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : Jira issue opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7803[1] and configuration done by Humbedooh for every Maven repo mirrored to github thank you Humbedooh Hervé Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 12:17:53 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : anybody knows how it is done for PR? because it works well here: don't know if it could be extended to discussions trying to cross-post to infra@ Regards, Hervé Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 03:06:37 Arnaud Héritier a écrit : With a virtual account using this address and subscribing to github notifications ?— Sent from Mailbox On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote: there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not routed to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is not good for community, IMHO is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@? Regards, Hervé -- Message transmit -- Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3) Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12 De : Dave Moten notificati...@github.com À : apache/maven ma...@noreply.github.com CC : Hervé Boutemy herve.bout...@free.fr I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins maximising type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that the plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the process. I used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code. I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able to check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if real type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml sometime? Thanks for chasing it. D On 25 May 2014 18:14, Hervé Boutemy notificati...@github.com wrote: on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward on a practical one: 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you always let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of plugin developers)? 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration element content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello generates the xsd from .mdo? I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo I wrote to at least document the descriptor from a human point of view (ie not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element) — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f 40 83fd890fc47a#commitcomment-6439921 . --- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f4083fd8 90 fc47a#commitcomment-6440111 - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7803 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
