Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)

2014-05-25 Thread Daniel Kulp

We need to file a request with infrastructure to have all the maven repos 
upgraded to the latest “github goodies”.   Pull requests should have more 
information in them, comments on pull requests should come back to this list, 
etc….   I know that’s all working for the CXF pull requests.  For example:

http://cxf.547215.n5.nabble.com/GitHub-cxf-pull-request-PR-fix-CXF-5719-tt5744323.html

And note how that then integrates with JIRA:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-5719

although that would require getting all our JIRA projects moved to apache.

Dan


On May 25, 2014, at 6:06 AM, Arnaud Héritier  wrote:

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> wrote:
> 
>> there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not 
>> routed 
>> to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is not good for 
>> community, IMHO
>> is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@?
>> Regards,
>> Hervé
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>> Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published 
>> (19247f3)
>> Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12
>> De : Dave Moten 
>> À : apache/maven 
>> CC : Hervé Boutemy 
>> I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins maximising
>> type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a
>> plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer
>> satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that the
>> plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the process. I
>> used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I
>> realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code.
>> I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able to
>> check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm
>> assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if real
>> type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml sometime?
>> Thanks for chasing it.
>> D
>> On 25 May 2014 18:14, "Hervé Boutemy"  wrote:
>>> on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward
>>> on a practical one:
>>> 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you always
>>> let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of plugin
>>> developers)?
>>> 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration element
>>> content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello generates the
>>> xsd from .mdo?
>>> 
>>> I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo I
>>> wrote to at least document the descriptor "from a human point of view" (ie
>>> not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element)
>>> 
>>> —
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Re: Fwd: Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)

2014-05-25 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
just for reference, here is the feature annoucement:
https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/improved_integration_between_apache_and

Regards,

Hervé

Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 12:36:59 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
> Jira issue opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7803[1]
> and configuration done by Humbedooh for every Maven repo mirrored to github
> 
> thank you Humbedooh
> 
> Hervé
> 
> Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 12:17:53 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
> > anybody knows how it is done for PR?
> > because it works well here: don't know if it could be extended to
> > discussions
> > 
> > trying to cross-post to infra@
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Hervé
> > 
> > Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 03:06:37 Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
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> > > On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY 
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not
> > > > routed to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is
> > > > not
> > > > good for community, IMHO
> > > > is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@?
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Hervé
> > > > --  Message transmit  --
> > > > Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published
> > > > (19247f3) Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12
> > > > De : Dave Moten 
> > > > À : apache/maven 
> > > > CC : Hervé Boutemy 
> > > > I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins
> > > > maximising
> > > > type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a
> > > > plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer
> > > > satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that
> > > > the
> > > > plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the
> > > > process.
> > > > I
> > > > used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I
> > > > realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code.
> > > > I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able
> > > > to
> > > > check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm
> > > > assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if
> > > > real
> > > > type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml
> > > > sometime?
> > > > Thanks for chasing it.
> > > > D
> > > > 
> > > > On 25 May 2014 18:14, "Hervé Boutemy"  wrote:
> > > >> on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward
> > > >> on a practical one:
> > > >> 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you
> > > >> always
> > > >> let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of
> > > >> plugin
> > > >> developers)?
> > > >> 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration
> > > >> element
> > > >> content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello
> > > >> generates
> > > >> the
> > > >> xsd from .mdo?
> > > >> 
> > > >> I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo
> > > >> I
> > > >> wrote to at least document the descriptor "from a human point of
> > > >> view"
> > > >> (ie
> > > >> not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element)
> > > >> 
> > > >> —
> > > >> Reply to this email directly or view it on
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Re: Fwd: Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)

2014-05-25 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Jira issue opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7803[1] 
and configuration done by Humbedooh for every Maven repo mirrored to github

thank you Humbedooh

Hervé

Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 12:17:53 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
> anybody knows how it is done for PR?
> because it works well here: don't know if it could be extended to
> discussions
> 
> trying to cross-post to infra@
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hervé
> 
> Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 03:06:37 Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
> > With a virtual account using this address and subscribing to github
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> > 
> > On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not
> > > routed to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is
> > > not
> > > good for community, IMHO
> > > is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@?
> > > Regards,
> > > Hervé
> > > --  Message transmit  --
> > > Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published
> > > (19247f3) Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12
> > > De : Dave Moten 
> > > À : apache/maven 
> > > CC : Hervé Boutemy 
> > > I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins maximising
> > > type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a
> > > plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer
> > > satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that
> > > the
> > > plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the process.
> > > I
> > > used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I
> > > realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code.
> > > I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able
> > > to
> > > check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm
> > > assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if
> > > real
> > > type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml sometime?
> > > Thanks for chasing it.
> > > D
> > > 
> > > On 25 May 2014 18:14, "Hervé Boutemy"  wrote:
> > >> on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward
> > >> on a practical one:
> > >> 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you
> > >> always
> > >> let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of
> > >> plugin
> > >> developers)?
> > >> 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration
> > >> element
> > >> content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello generates
> > >> the
> > >> xsd from .mdo?
> > >> 
> > >> I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo I
> > >> wrote to at least document the descriptor "from a human point of view"
> > >> (ie
> > >> not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element)
> > >> 
> > >> —
> > >> Reply to this email directly or view it on
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 40
> > > 83fd890fc47a#commitcomment-6439921>>
> > > 
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Re: Fwd: Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)

2014-05-25 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
anybody knows how it is done for PR?
because it works well here: don't know if it could be extended to discussions

trying to cross-post to infra@

Regards,

Hervé

Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 03:06:37 Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
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> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY 
> 
> wrote:
> > there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not
> > routed to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is not
> > good for community, IMHO
> > is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@?
> > Regards,
> > Hervé
> > ------  Message transmit  ----------
> > Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published
> > (19247f3) Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12
> > De : Dave Moten 
> > À : apache/maven 
> > CC : Hervé Boutemy 
> > I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins maximising
> > type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a
> > plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer
> > satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that the
> > plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the process. I
> > used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I
> > realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code.
> > I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able to
> > check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm
> > assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if real
> > type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml sometime?
> > Thanks for chasing it.
> > D
> > 
> > On 25 May 2014 18:14, "Hervé Boutemy"  wrote:
> >> on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward
> >> on a practical one:
> >> 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you
> >> always
> >> let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of
> >> plugin
> >> developers)?
> >> 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration
> >> element
> >> content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello generates
> >> the
> >> xsd from .mdo?
> >> 
> >> I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo I
> >> wrote to at least document the descriptor "from a human point of view"
> >> (ie
> >> not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element)
> >> 
> >> —
> >> Reply to this email directly or view it on
> > 
> > GitHub<https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f40
> > 83fd890fc47a#commitcomment-6439921>> 
> >> .
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Re: Fwd: Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)

2014-05-25 Thread Arnaud Héritier
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On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY 
wrote:

> there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not routed 
> to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is not good for 
> community, IMHO
> is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@?
> Regards,
> Hervé
> --  Message transmit  ------
> Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)
> Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12
> De : Dave Moten 
> À : apache/maven 
> CC : Hervé Boutemy 
> I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins maximising
> type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a
> plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer
> satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that the
> plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the process. I
> used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I
> realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code.
> I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able to
> check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm
> assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if real
> type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml sometime?
> Thanks for chasing it.
> D
> On 25 May 2014 18:14, "Hervé Boutemy"  wrote:
>> on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward
>> on a practical one:
>> 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you always
>> let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of plugin
>> developers)?
>> 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration element
>> content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello generates the
>> xsd from .mdo?
>>
>> I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo I
>> wrote to at least document the descriptor "from a human point of view" (ie
>> not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element)
>>
>> —
>> Reply to this email directly or view it on 
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Fwd: Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)

2014-05-25 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
there are interesting discussion happening on github, but they are not routed 
to any mailing-list, so they stay completely personal: this is not good for 
community, IMHO

is there a way to have such discussions sent to dev@?

Regards,

Hervé

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Sujet : Re: [maven] removed XSD generation since it is not published (19247f3)
Date : dimanche 25 mai 2014, 02:29:12
De : Dave Moten 
À : apache/maven 
CC : Hervé Boutemy 

I was interested in writing tooling around composing plugins maximising
type safety for example but was disappointed that the definition of a
plugin's configuration was not something I could reverse engineer
satisfactorily from the plugin.xml and in the process discovered that the
plugin.XML didn't have an xsd making more guesswork out of the process. I
used xpath to get stuff out of it in the end but I stopped work when I
realised that my only hope was parsing plugins' source code.

I'm a big fan of XML always having an xsd but I probably won't be able to
check out modello and get an xsd happening in the near future and I'm
assuming for my interests that it won't help much either. I wonder if real
type information for configuration will turn up in plugin.xml sometime?

Thanks for chasing it.
D
On 25 May 2014 18:14, "Hervé Boutemy"  wrote:

> on a pure principle, I know it looks awkward
> on a practical one:
> 1. did you ever try to write a plugin descriptor by hand? or do you always
> let plugin-tools generate the descriptor (like the vast majority of plugin
> developers)?
> 2. are you able to give us a xsd description for the configuration element
> content? and that fits into Modello descriptor, since Modello generates the
> xsd from .mdo?
>
> I'm not a big xsd expert: any help appreciated to fix the plugin.mdo I
> wrote to at least document the descriptor "from a human point of view" (ie
> not seeing in general that I had to cheat with configuration element)
>
> —
> Reply to this email directly or view it on 
GitHub<https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/19247f363bee07d1afc6f8902f4083fd890fc47a#commitcomment-6439921>
> .
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