RE: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-09-14 Thread Brian E. Fox
The consensus seemed to be to move clover to /retired. This is now done.

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From: Jerome Lacoste [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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On 8/30/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
> too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
> original place) would get my vote.

+1 for retired

On the Debian package management system (and probably in others)
there's a way to define a package as providing another package's
functionality, allowing superseding of information.

Could there be a somewhat identical feature in maven which would
enable it to automatically detect that the plugin has now moved
somewhere else? I am not sure how this would fit with the current
implementation and the implicit location of the packages on the remote
repositories. As maven searches in the old location, there would need
to be some sort of link from the old to the new, which somewhat
inverts the dependency between the superseder and deprecated as used
in the deb format.

Maybe a feature to implement in the repository manager, using some sort
of

  
...
...
[1.0; 3.0(...
  
in the overriding POM

and some backlinks added by the repo manager when the overriding POM
is added to the repository ?

I would love maven to tell me: warning this dependency is obsolete.

Cheers,

Jerome

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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-09-14 Thread Carlos Sanchez
see http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2316

On 8/30/07, Jerome Lacoste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/30/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
> > too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
> > original place) would get my vote.
>
> +1 for retired
>
> On the Debian package management system (and probably in others)
> there's a way to define a package as providing another package's
> functionality, allowing superseding of information.
>
> Could there be a somewhat identical feature in maven which would
> enable it to automatically detect that the plugin has now moved
> somewhere else? I am not sure how this would fit with the current
> implementation and the implicit location of the packages on the remote
> repositories. As maven searches in the old location, there would need
> to be some sort of link from the old to the new, which somewhat
> inverts the dependency between the superseder and deprecated as used
> in the deb format.
>
> Maybe a feature to implement in the repository manager, using some sort of
> 
>   
> ...
> ...
> [1.0; 3.0(...
>   
> in the overriding POM
>
> and some backlinks added by the repo manager when the overriding POM
> is added to the repository ?
>
> I would love maven to tell me: warning this dependency is obsolete.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jerome
>
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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-09-14 Thread Vincent Massol

Hi Tom,

On Aug 29, 2007, at 3:14 AM, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi All,

One consequence of Cenqua's acquisition by Atlassian is that we now  
have the resources to continue development of the Maven Clover  
plugin ourselves. It will remain open source under the Apache  
licence, and the source will be hosted in Atlassian's public svn  
repository.


Many thanks to Vincent Massol and others for their work on this  
plugin!


Thanks. I'm happy to see someone taking care of this baby since I've  
not been very active on it lately and there are several patches and  
user request in JIRA for it.


Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

-Vincent



I have questions about the best way to make this transition --  
should we release a final version of the plugin with the existing  
org.apache.maven.plugins groupId which outputs a message explaining  
the change? What have other people done when a plugin changes  
groupId? (and would these questions be better asked on the user  
list rather than here?)


Thanks,
  Tom


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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Jerome Lacoste pisze:
> On the Debian package management system (and probably in others)
> there's a way to define a package as providing another package's
> functionality, allowing superseding of information.
> 
> Could there be a somewhat identical feature in maven which would
> enable it to automatically detect that the plugin has now moved
> somewhere else? I am not sure how this would fit with the current
> implementation and the implicit location of the packages on the remote
> repositories. As maven searches in the old location, there would need
> to be some sort of link from the old to the new, which somewhat
> inverts the dependency between the superseder and deprecated as used
> in the deb format.
> 
> Maybe a feature to implement in the repository manager, using some sort of
> 
>   
> ...
> ...
> [1.0; 3.0(...
>   
> in the overriding POM
> 
> and some backlinks added by the repo manager when the overriding POM
> is added to the repository ?
> 
> I would love maven to tell me: warning this dependency is obsolete.

+1000 for this proposal in general. I won't comment technical details as I'm 
not so much involved in
Maven internals.

Nevertheless, such option would allow much smoother migration from poorly 
chosen groupIds and
artifactIds as well.

-- 
Grzegorz Kossakowski
http://reflectingonthevicissitudes.wordpress.com/

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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Jerome Lacoste
On 8/30/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
> too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
> original place) would get my vote.

+1 for retired

On the Debian package management system (and probably in others)
there's a way to define a package as providing another package's
functionality, allowing superseding of information.

Could there be a somewhat identical feature in maven which would
enable it to automatically detect that the plugin has now moved
somewhere else? I am not sure how this would fit with the current
implementation and the implicit location of the packages on the remote
repositories. As maven searches in the old location, there would need
to be some sort of link from the old to the new, which somewhat
inverts the dependency between the superseder and deprecated as used
in the deb format.

Maybe a feature to implement in the repository manager, using some sort of

  
...
...
[1.0; 3.0(...
  
in the overriding POM

and some backlinks added by the repo manager when the overriding POM
is added to the repository ?

I would love maven to tell me: warning this dependency is obsolete.

Cheers,

Jerome

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RE: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Brian E. Fox
+1. I'd prefer to not have to look at them anymore so moving them out is
a good idea.

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From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:38 AM
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Subject: Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin  
too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the  
original place) would get my vote.

- Brett

On 30/08/2007, at 4:31 PM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

> We can move it in the sandbox (just to keep it visible) ?
> Or in a deprecated area ?
>
> Arnaud
>
> On 30/08/2007, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Its always gonna be in svn, so I'd just nuke it and if anyone wants
>> to find the old stuff they can dig it up.
>>
>> --jason
>>
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/08/2007, at 3:01 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use
>>>> yours, most likely, by virtue of you developing it, but we'll
>>>> leave the code here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever
>>>> they want to use it for.
>>>
>>> I don't expect there to be much activity here, and I'd prefer to
>>> avoid confusion. Should we retire the code (though obviously keep
>>> it around for anyone that might want it for some reason), and close
>>> the JIRA once this out?
>>>
>>> Or should we continue to maintain the current plugin, stating
>>> clearly somewhere that it's for Clover 1 only?
>>>
>>> - Brett
>>>
>>> 

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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread jallen

retired is good for me too. So now i can pester the Cenqua guys about
features for both the Eclipse plugin AND the maven plugin. wonderful ;)

John Allen


Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> 
> On 8/30/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
>> too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
>> original place) would get my vote.
> 
> Sounds better than sandbox.
> 
> -- 
> "Besides, manipulating elections is under penalty of law, resulting in
> a preventative effect against manipulating elections.
> 
> The german government justifying the use of electronic voting machines
> and obviously  believing that we don't need a police, because all
> illegal actions are forbidden.
> 
> http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/16/051/1605194.pdf
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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Vincent Siveton
IMHO keep the maven-clover-plugin in its actual place is enough to
preserve history.
We just need to remove the stuff and add a README.TXT which gives the
new SVN url.
Have a look to the maven-antlr-plugin dir.

Cheers,

Vincent

2007/8/30, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
> too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
> original place) would get my vote.
>
> - Brett
>
> On 30/08/2007, at 4:31 PM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
>
> > We can move it in the sandbox (just to keep it visible) ?
> > Or in a deprecated area ?
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
> > On 30/08/2007, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Its always gonna be in svn, so I'd just nuke it and if anyone wants
> >> to find the old stuff they can dig it up.
> >>
> >> --jason
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 30/08/2007, at 3:01 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>
> 
>  You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use
>  yours, most likely, by virtue of you developing it, but we'll
>  leave the code here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever
>  they want to use it for.
> >>>
> >>> I don't expect there to be much activity here, and I'd prefer to
> >>> avoid confusion. Should we retire the code (though obviously keep
> >>> it around for anyone that might want it for some reason), and close
> >>> the JIRA once this out?
> >>>
> >>> Or should we continue to maintain the current plugin, stating
> >>> clearly somewhere that it's for Clover 1 only?
> >>>
> >>> - Brett
> >>>
> >>> 
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HELP was Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
Hi,

  1) this not the good list. You can ask help on the users one
  2) it's a bad practice to continue a thread with another not related question
  3) You can read docs :
- http://maven.apache.org
- free books are available on devzuz.com and sonatype.com

Arnaud

On 30/08/2007, Pattabiraman, Venkatraman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm new to Maven. I don't know where to start. I have set the path of Maven.
>
> I have already created the package strutcture in eclipse. I have also plugged 
> in the maven in eclipse.
>
> From here i don't know how to start.
>
> can anybody help.
>
> venkat
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Arnaud HERITIER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:11 PM
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house
>
>
> +1 for a retired zone.
> I think we'll have to wait a first release of the plugin by atlassian.
> We'll update the plugins list in the site and we'll move the svn code.
> Same thing for antlr.
>
> Arnaud
>
> On 30/08/2007, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 8/30/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
> > > too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
> > > original place) would get my vote.
> >
> > Sounds better than sandbox.
> >
> > --
> > "Besides, manipulating elections is under penalty of law, resulting in
> > a preventative effect against manipulating elections.
> >
> > The german government justifying the use of electronic voting machines
> > and obviously  believing that we don't need a police, because all
> > illegal actions are forbidden.
> >
> > http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/16/051/1605194.pdf
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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Stephane Nicoll
On 8/30/07, Pattabiraman, Venkatraman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm new to Maven. I don't know where to start. I have set the path of Maven.

You're probably new to the Internet as well :) User question -> user
list and please don't hack another thread for your questions.

Thanks,
Stéphane

>
> I have already created the package strutcture in eclipse. I have also plugged 
> in the maven in eclipse.
>
> From here i don't know how to start.
>
> can anybody help.
>
> venkat
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Arnaud HERITIER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:11 PM
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house
>
>
> +1 for a retired zone.
> I think we'll have to wait a first release of the plugin by atlassian.
> We'll update the plugins list in the site and we'll move the svn code.
> Same thing for antlr.
>
> Arnaud
>
> On 30/08/2007, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 8/30/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
> > > too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
> > > original place) would get my vote.
> >
> > Sounds better than sandbox.
> >
> > --
> > "Besides, manipulating elections is under penalty of law, resulting in
> > a preventative effect against manipulating elections.
> >
> > The german government justifying the use of electronic voting machines
> > and obviously  believing that we don't need a police, because all
> > illegal actions are forbidden.
> >
> > http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/16/051/1605194.pdf
> >
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RE: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Pattabiraman, Venkatraman
Hi

I'm new to Maven. I don't know where to start. I have set the path of Maven. 

I have already created the package strutcture in eclipse. I have also plugged 
in the maven in eclipse.

From here i don't know how to start.

can anybody help.

venkat

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+1 for a retired zone.
I think we'll have to wait a first release of the plugin by atlassian.
We'll update the plugins list in the site and we'll move the svn code.
Same thing for antlr.

Arnaud

On 30/08/2007, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/30/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
> > too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
> > original place) would get my vote.
>
> Sounds better than sandbox.
>
> --
> "Besides, manipulating elections is under penalty of law, resulting in
> a preventative effect against manipulating elections.
>
> The german government justifying the use of electronic voting machines
> and obviously  believing that we don't need a police, because all
> illegal actions are forbidden.
>
> http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/16/051/1605194.pdf
>
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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
+1 for a retired zone.
I think we'll have to wait a first release of the plugin by atlassian.
We'll update the plugins list in the site and we'll move the svn code.
Same thing for antlr.

Arnaud

On 30/08/2007, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/30/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
> > too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
> > original place) would get my vote.
>
> Sounds better than sandbox.
>
> --
> "Besides, manipulating elections is under penalty of law, resulting in
> a preventative effect against manipulating elections.
>
> The german government justifying the use of electronic voting machines
> and obviously  believing that we don't need a police, because all
> illegal actions are forbidden.
>
> http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/16/051/1605194.pdf
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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Stephane Nicoll
Same here.

Stéphane

On 8/30/07, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ya, retired/* sounds like a good place.
>
> --jason
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2007, at 11:37 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
> > Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
> > too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
> > original place) would get my vote.
> >
> > - Brett
> >
> > On 30/08/2007, at 4:31 PM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> >
> >> We can move it in the sandbox (just to keep it visible) ?
> >> Or in a deprecated area ?
> >>
> >> Arnaud
> >>
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> >>> On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
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>  On 30/08/2007, at 3:01 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
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> > You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use
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> > leave the code here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever
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> 
>  I don't expect there to be much activity here, and I'd prefer to
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>  the JIRA once this out?
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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Emmanuel Venisse

+1

Emmanuel

Brett Porter a écrit :
Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin too. 
Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the original 
place) would get my vote.


- Brett

On 30/08/2007, at 4:31 PM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:


We can move it in the sandbox (just to keep it visible) ?
Or in a deprecated area ?

Arnaud

On 30/08/2007, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Its always gonna be in svn, so I'd just nuke it and if anyone wants
to find the old stuff they can dig it up.

--jason


On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


On 30/08/2007, at 3:01 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:



You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use
yours, most likely, by virtue of you developing it, but we'll
leave the code here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever
they want to use it for.


I don't expect there to be much activity here, and I'd prefer to
avoid confusion. Should we retire the code (though obviously keep
it around for anyone that might want it for some reason), and close
the JIRA once this out?

Or should we continue to maintain the current plugin, stating
clearly somewhere that it's for Clover 1 only?

- Brett

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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-30 Thread Jason Dillon

Ya, retired/* sounds like a good place.

--jason


On Aug 29, 2007, at 11:37 PM, Brett Porter wrote:

Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin  
too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the  
original place) would get my vote.


- Brett

On 30/08/2007, at 4:31 PM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:


We can move it in the sandbox (just to keep it visible) ?
Or in a deprecated area ?

Arnaud

On 30/08/2007, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Its always gonna be in svn, so I'd just nuke it and if anyone wants
to find the old stuff they can dig it up.

--jason


On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


On 30/08/2007, at 3:01 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:



You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use
yours, most likely, by virtue of you developing it, but we'll
leave the code here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever
they want to use it for.


I don't expect there to be much activity here, and I'd prefer to
avoid confusion. Should we retire the code (though obviously keep
it around for anyone that might want it for some reason), and close
the JIRA once this out?

Or should we continue to maintain the current plugin, stating
clearly somewhere that it's for Clover 1 only?

- Brett

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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-29 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 8/30/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin
> too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the
> original place) would get my vote.

Sounds better than sandbox.

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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-29 Thread Brett Porter
Yeah, we should do the same with the recently departed antlr plugin  
too. Move trunk to /retired/* (original tags would remain in the  
original place) would get my vote.


- Brett

On 30/08/2007, at 4:31 PM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:


We can move it in the sandbox (just to keep it visible) ?
Or in a deprecated area ?

Arnaud

On 30/08/2007, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Its always gonna be in svn, so I'd just nuke it and if anyone wants
to find the old stuff they can dig it up.

--jason


On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


On 30/08/2007, at 3:01 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:



You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use
yours, most likely, by virtue of you developing it, but we'll
leave the code here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever
they want to use it for.


I don't expect there to be much activity here, and I'd prefer to
avoid confusion. Should we retire the code (though obviously keep
it around for anyone that might want it for some reason), and close
the JIRA once this out?

Or should we continue to maintain the current plugin, stating
clearly somewhere that it's for Clover 1 only?

- Brett

 
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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-29 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
We can move it in the sandbox (just to keep it visible) ?
Or in a deprecated area ?

Arnaud

On 30/08/2007, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Its always gonna be in svn, so I'd just nuke it and if anyone wants
> to find the old stuff they can dig it up.
>
> --jason
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
> > On 30/08/2007, at 3:01 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use
> >> yours, most likely, by virtue of you developing it, but we'll
> >> leave the code here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever
> >> they want to use it for.
> >
> > I don't expect there to be much activity here, and I'd prefer to
> > avoid confusion. Should we retire the code (though obviously keep
> > it around for anyone that might want it for some reason), and close
> > the JIRA once this out?
> >
> > Or should we continue to maintain the current plugin, stating
> > clearly somewhere that it's for Clover 1 only?
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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-29 Thread Jason Dillon
Its always gonna be in svn, so I'd just nuke it and if anyone wants  
to find the old stuff they can dig it up.


--jason


On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


On 30/08/2007, at 3:01 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:



You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use  
yours, most likely, by virtue of you developing it, but we'll  
leave the code here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever  
they want to use it for.


I don't expect there to be much activity here, and I'd prefer to  
avoid confusion. Should we retire the code (though obviously keep  
it around for anyone that might want it for some reason), and close  
the JIRA once this out?


Or should we continue to maintain the current plugin, stating  
clearly somewhere that it's for Clover 1 only?


- Brett

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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-29 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 29 Aug 07, at 8:07 PM 29 Aug 07, Brett Porter wrote:


On 30/08/2007, at 3:01 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:



You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use  
yours, most likely, by virtue of you developing it, but we'll  
leave the code here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever  
they want to use it for.


I don't expect there to be much activity here, and I'd prefer to  
avoid confusion. Should we retire the code (though obviously keep  
it around for anyone that might want it for some reason), and close  
the JIRA once this out?




We definitely need to keep the code around as we have no idea whose  
done what with it. It's not unlikely it's been forked for whatever  
reason so we shouldn't remove it. The JIRA issues can be transfered  
to Atlassian.


Or should we continue to maintain the current plugin, stating  
clearly somewhere that it's for Clover 1 only?


- Brett

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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-29 Thread Brett Porter

On 30/08/2007, at 3:01 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:



You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use  
yours, most likely, by virtue of you developing it, but we'll leave  
the code here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever they want  
to use it for.


I don't expect there to be much activity here, and I'd prefer to  
avoid confusion. Should we retire the code (though obviously keep it  
around for anyone that might want it for some reason), and close the  
JIRA once this out?


Or should we continue to maintain the current plugin, stating clearly  
somewhere that it's for Clover 1 only?


- Brett

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Re: Atlassian to bring Maven Clover plugin development in-house

2007-08-29 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 28 Aug 07, at 6:14 PM 28 Aug 07, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi All,

One consequence of Cenqua's acquisition by Atlassian is that we now  
have the resources to continue development of the Maven Clover  
plugin ourselves. It will remain open source under the Apache  
licence, and the source will be hosted in Atlassian's public svn  
repository.


Many thanks to Vincent Massol and others for their work on this  
plugin!


I have questions about the best way to make this transition --  
should we release a final version of the plugin with the existing  
org.apache.maven.plugins groupId which outputs a message explaining  
the change? What have other people done when a plugin changes  
groupId? (and would these questions be better asked on the user  
list rather than here?)




You can fork the code, and change the groupId. People will use yours,  
most likely, by virtue of you developing it, but we'll leave the code  
here for anyone who wants to use it for whatever they want to use it  
for.



Thanks,
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