Re: deploy maven site on SVN
How long does it take for subsequent generations of the site? Hopefully that is then incremental - and if that works, we should be able to do the same with a commit as part of the site generation. The Any23 site is 51M - most of which is generated by Javadoc and XRef. I don't see how Maven can do anything to improve that situation, other than perhaps optimising the JXR HTML. Previously, we'd upload 8M every time (51M zipped). With SVN, you should be uploading quite a bit first time, and then just a few 100K after that. However, we're still not in a good enough place with the available wagons. I tried building a relatively simple multi-module site, and had the following issues: - wagon-scm failed trying to commit a revision that already existed (I think trying to add something that was already there due to checking out with -N) - wagon-svn failed both due to an old svnkit (had to use an old repository format to workaround), and then due to the latest site plugin's path construction - maven-svn-wagon worked, but checked in every file each time - even when only one was changed - causing a decent bandwidth cost So we still have work to do. I think the best approach might be to have a different deployment mode for SCM URLs - instead of using wagon, use the SCM API and use a "stage" approach where there is a persistent checkout you can update/pull, make modifications, then commit (+push) - then focus on files that change unnecessarily. WDYT? - Brett On 20/01/2012, at 8:47 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all guys, > > just to let you know that today I moved the Apache Any23[1] site > deploying to local FS directory and then manual commit. > It took *more than two hours*, with the good business ADSL upload band > at office ... :( > > Whatever solution we can adopt to deploy the site on svn, it takes too > much time :( > > -Simo > > [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/any23/site/ > > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ > http://twitter.com/simonetripodi > http://www.99soft.org/ > > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Brett Porter wrote: >> >> On 18/01/2012, at 7:59 PM, Arnaud Héritier wrote: >> >>> Perhaps if the SCM was GIT instead of SVN it could be faster ? >>> It's not a short term solution but it can be another reason to use Git ASAP. >>> >>> >> >> I think you misinterpreted a typo in Simone's email - it's the CMS, not the >> SCM. >> >> This isn't related to the SCM used by the project - infra are using >> svnpubsub to publish sites (which takes effect almost immediately, in >> comparison to the slow rsync process that we used to wait for). >> >> On 18/01/2012, at 8:19 PM, ant elder wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simone Tripodi >>> wrote: Hi all guys, ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are managed * via the SCM * via svnpubsub >>> >>> Do you have any links to something that says that, I didn't think >>> there were any Incubator rules about what poddlings must do for >>> websites. >>> >> >> >> http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html#svnpubsub >> >> Cheers, >> Brett >> >> >> -- >> Brett Porter >> br...@apache.org >> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ >> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter >> http://twitter.com/brettporter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > -- Brett Porter br...@apache.org http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter http://twitter.com/brettporter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
Hi all guys, just to let you know that today I moved the Apache Any23[1] site deploying to local FS directory and then manual commit. It took *more than two hours*, with the good business ADSL upload band at office ... :( Whatever solution we can adopt to deploy the site on svn, it takes too much time :( -Simo [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/any23/site/ http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Brett Porter wrote: > > On 18/01/2012, at 7:59 PM, Arnaud Héritier wrote: > >> Perhaps if the SCM was GIT instead of SVN it could be faster ? >> It's not a short term solution but it can be another reason to use Git ASAP. >> >> > > I think you misinterpreted a typo in Simone's email - it's the CMS, not the > SCM. > > This isn't related to the SCM used by the project - infra are using svnpubsub > to publish sites (which takes effect almost immediately, in comparison to the > slow rsync process that we used to wait for). > > On 18/01/2012, at 8:19 PM, ant elder wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simone Tripodi >> wrote: >>> Hi all guys, >>> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are managed >>> >>> * via the SCM >>> * via svnpubsub >>> >> >> Do you have any links to something that says that, I didn't think >> there were any Incubator rules about what poddlings must do for >> websites. >> > > > http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html#svnpubsub > > Cheers, > Brett > > > -- > Brett Porter > br...@apache.org > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ > http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter > http://twitter.com/brettporter > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
On 18/01/2012, at 7:59 PM, Arnaud Héritier wrote: > Perhaps if the SCM was GIT instead of SVN it could be faster ? > It's not a short term solution but it can be another reason to use Git ASAP. > > I think you misinterpreted a typo in Simone's email - it's the CMS, not the SCM. This isn't related to the SCM used by the project - infra are using svnpubsub to publish sites (which takes effect almost immediately, in comparison to the slow rsync process that we used to wait for). On 18/01/2012, at 8:19 PM, ant elder wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simone Tripodi > wrote: >> Hi all guys, >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are managed >> >> * via the SCM >> * via svnpubsub >> > > Do you have any links to something that says that, I didn't think > there were any Incubator rules about what poddlings must do for > websites. > http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html#svnpubsub Cheers, Brett -- Brett Porter br...@apache.org http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter http://twitter.com/brettporter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
On 19/01/2012, at 7:40 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > If it depends on svnkit, apache projects _may_ have issues using it due to > tge svnkit license. It's not a problem to use it for deploying our site, it'd be a problem if we wanted to distribute it as part of a release. How we deploy our site is an internal thing. That said, if we do it right, I don't think the svn.exe <-> svnkit speed difference should be much on updates (and we'll just have to suffer with the speed of the initial checkin). - Brett -- Brett Porter br...@apache.org http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter http://twitter.com/brettporter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
Hi Oleg!!! > On the other hand - I remember trying to push the generated site directly to > the svn using both wagon-svn and maven-svn-wagon and in the end I decided to > generate the new site on the local filesystem instead and then manually > checkout old site, overwrite it with the generated files and manually commit > the modified version back. that is exactly what we do in Cocoon, it's not what I really like (because requires extra manual steps) but at least it should work :) All the best! -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Oleg Estekhin wrote: > Hi > > **shameless self-advertisement, sorry** > You can try my com.google.code.maven-svn-wagon: maven-svn-wagon (dev site at > http://code.google.com/p/maven-svn-wagon/, the artifact is available from > the Central). In general it works just as the Kohsuke's > org.jvnet.wagon-svn:wagon-svn, and it depends in the SVNKit too, but it > should work just a little bit better. > > On the other hand - I remember trying to push the generated site directly to > the svn using both wagon-svn and maven-svn-wagon and in the end I decided to > generate the new site on the local filesystem instead and then manually > checkout old site, overwrite it with the generated files and manually commit > the modified version back. I don't remember right now what it was exactly > that I did not liked when autodeploing the site directly to the svn, the > only glitch I remember is that site goal generates some files with mixed > ending style (both lf and crlf in some files, this glitch is still present) > and if you have configured the svn:eol-style autoproperty for html files > then it will break the build. > > -Исходное сообщение- From: Simone Tripodi > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:39 AM > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: deploy maven site on SVN > > > Hi all! > > thanks for the feedbacks - we are using indeed the Kohsuke's wagon but > to deploy to ASF svn space it takes almost 3secs/page (it could be an > issue of my ADSL upload band) but since javadoc is really big, it > takes too much time :( > > wagon-ssh is still the faster :) > > all the best, have a nice day! > -Simo > > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ > http://twitter.com/simonetripodi > http://www.99soft.org/ > > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Stephen Connolly > wrote: >> >> if the deps are cat a/b i can see about getting kk to donate the code >> here... but i think it uses svnkit so probably out of luck. (kk is an asf >> committer on one of the commons projects, so cla on file) >> >> - Stephen >> >> --- >> Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense >> words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the >> screen >> On 18 Jan 2012 00:27, "Brett Porter" wrote: >> >>> wagon-svn by Kohsuke is much faster, but both should work. >>> >>> Either way, I think the main thing we need to do is make sure repeated >>> identical executions of the site don't change files needlessly, so that >>> the >>> upload is minimal. >>> >>> On 18/01/2012, at 7:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >>> >>> > 2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : >>> >> Hi all guys, >>> >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are >>> managed >>> >> >>> >> * via the SCM >>> >> * via svnpubsub >>> >> >>> >> At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear >>> >> reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy >>> >> procedure is slow and takes too much time :S >>> > >>> > Agree that wagon scm is slow >>> > (http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html) >>> > as it's a per file deploy/commit. >>> > >>> >> >>> >> Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using mvn >>> >> - that doesn't involve manual steps? >>> >> A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the >>> >> site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly >>> >> procedure... >>> > I don't see better solution :-( >>> >> >>> >> Many thanks in advance, all the best >>> >>
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
If it depends on svnkit, apache projects _may_ have issues using it due to tge svnkit license. - Stephen --- Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the screen On Jan 19, 2012 8:13 a.m., "Oleg Estekhin" wrote: > Hi > > **shameless self-advertisement, sorry** > You can try my com.google.code.maven-svn-**wagon: maven-svn-wagon (dev > site at > http://code.google.com/p/**maven-svn-wagon/<http://code.google.com/p/maven-svn-wagon/>, > the artifact is available from the Central). In general it works just as > the Kohsuke's org.jvnet.wagon-svn:wagon-svn, and it depends in the SVNKit > too, but it should work just a little bit better. > > On the other hand - I remember trying to push the generated site directly > to the svn using both wagon-svn and maven-svn-wagon and in the end I > decided to generate the new site on the local filesystem instead and then > manually checkout old site, overwrite it with the generated files and > manually commit the modified version back. I don't remember right now what > it was exactly that I did not liked when autodeploing the site directly to > the svn, the only glitch I remember is that site goal generates some files > with mixed ending style (both lf and crlf in some files, this glitch is > still present) and if you have configured the svn:eol-style autoproperty > for html files then it will break the build. > > -Исходное сообщение- From: Simone Tripodi > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:39 AM > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: deploy maven site on SVN > > Hi all! > > thanks for the feedbacks - we are using indeed the Kohsuke's wagon but > to deploy to ASF svn space it takes almost 3secs/page (it could be an > issue of my ADSL upload band) but since javadoc is really big, it > takes too much time :( > > wagon-ssh is still the faster :) > > all the best, have a nice day! > -Simo > > http://people.apache.org/~**simonetripodi/<http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/> > http://simonetripodi.**livejournal.com/<http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/> > http://twitter.com/**simonetripodi <http://twitter.com/simonetripodi> > http://www.99soft.org/ > > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Stephen Connolly > > > wrote: > >> if the deps are cat a/b i can see about getting kk to donate the code >> here... but i think it uses svnkit so probably out of luck. (kk is an asf >> committer on one of the commons projects, so cla on file) >> >> - Stephen >> >> --- >> Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense >> words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the >> screen >> On 18 Jan 2012 00:27, "Brett Porter" wrote: >> >> wagon-svn by Kohsuke is much faster, but both should work. >>> >>> Either way, I think the main thing we need to do is make sure repeated >>> identical executions of the site don't change files needlessly, so that >>> the >>> upload is minimal. >>> >>> On 18/01/2012, at 7:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >>> >>> > 2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : >>> >> Hi all guys, >>> >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are >>> managed >>> >> >>> >> * via the SCM >>> >> * via svnpubsub >>> >> >>> >> At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear >>> >> reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy >>> >> procedure is slow and takes too much time :S >>> > >>> > Agree that wagon scm is slow >>> > (http://maven.apache.org/**wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-** >>> scm/usage.html<http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html> >>> ) >>> > as it's a per file deploy/commit. >>> > >>> >> >>> >> Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using mvn >>> >> - that doesn't involve manual steps? >>> >> A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the >>> >> site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly >>> >> procedure... >>> > I don't see better solution :-( >>> >> >>> >> Many thanks in advance, all the best >>> >> -Simo >>> >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~**simonetripodi/<http://peo
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
Hi **shameless self-advertisement, sorry** You can try my com.google.code.maven-svn-wagon: maven-svn-wagon (dev site at http://code.google.com/p/maven-svn-wagon/, the artifact is available from the Central). In general it works just as the Kohsuke's org.jvnet.wagon-svn:wagon-svn, and it depends in the SVNKit too, but it should work just a little bit better. On the other hand - I remember trying to push the generated site directly to the svn using both wagon-svn and maven-svn-wagon and in the end I decided to generate the new site on the local filesystem instead and then manually checkout old site, overwrite it with the generated files and manually commit the modified version back. I don't remember right now what it was exactly that I did not liked when autodeploing the site directly to the svn, the only glitch I remember is that site goal generates some files with mixed ending style (both lf and crlf in some files, this glitch is still present) and if you have configured the svn:eol-style autoproperty for html files then it will break the build. -Исходное сообщение- From: Simone Tripodi Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:39 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: deploy maven site on SVN Hi all! thanks for the feedbacks - we are using indeed the Kohsuke's wagon but to deploy to ASF svn space it takes almost 3secs/page (it could be an issue of my ADSL upload band) but since javadoc is really big, it takes too much time :( wagon-ssh is still the faster :) all the best, have a nice day! -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: if the deps are cat a/b i can see about getting kk to donate the code here... but i think it uses svnkit so probably out of luck. (kk is an asf committer on one of the commons projects, so cla on file) - Stephen --- Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the screen On 18 Jan 2012 00:27, "Brett Porter" wrote: wagon-svn by Kohsuke is much faster, but both should work. Either way, I think the main thing we need to do is make sure repeated identical executions of the site don't change files needlessly, so that the upload is minimal. On 18/01/2012, at 7:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : >> Hi all guys, >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are managed >> >> * via the SCM >> * via svnpubsub >> >> At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear >> reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy >> procedure is slow and takes too much time :S > > Agree that wagon scm is slow > (http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html) > as it's a per file deploy/commit. > >> >> Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using mvn >> - that doesn't involve manual steps? >> A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the >> site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly >> procedure... > I don't see better solution :-( >> >> Many thanks in advance, all the best >> -Simo >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >> http://www.99soft.org/ >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> > > > > -- > Olivier Lamy > Talend: http://coders.talend.com > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > -- Brett Porter br...@apache.org http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter http://twitter.com/brettporter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
2012/1/18 Benson Margulies : > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Simone Tripodi > wrote: >> Salut Arnaud, >> >> yes via Git is fast, I am using the >> org.kathrynhuxtable.maven.wagon:wagon-gitsite and I can confirm it is >> faster than SVN! > > > Not for really big sites. it takes forever. agree should be as fast as wagon-scm via git :-). @Simo Regarding deploying to asf svn, I tend to say we should have a kind of server to put a zip and this server must be an app which unzip then commit to svn. Something I have in mind is to add in Archiva a feature which could be able to receive a zipped site then unzip etc... (but that's an other story :-) ). > >> >> All the best! >> -Simo >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >> http://www.99soft.org/ >> >> >> >> 2012/1/18 Arnaud Héritier : >>> Perhaps if the SCM was GIT instead of SVN it could be faster ? >>> It's not a short term solution but it can be another reason to use Git ASAP. >>> >>> Arnaud >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Simone Tripodi >>> wrote: >>> Hi all! thanks for the feedbacks - we are using indeed the Kohsuke's wagon but to deploy to ASF svn space it takes almost 3secs/page (it could be an issue of my ADSL upload band) but since javadoc is really big, it takes too much time :( wagon-ssh is still the faster :) all the best, have a nice day! -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > if the deps are cat a/b i can see about getting kk to donate the code > here... but i think it uses svnkit so probably out of luck. (kk is an asf > committer on one of the commons projects, so cla on file) > > - Stephen > > --- > Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense > words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the > screen > On 18 Jan 2012 00:27, "Brett Porter" wrote: > >> wagon-svn by Kohsuke is much faster, but both should work. >> >> Either way, I think the main thing we need to do is make sure repeated >> identical executions of the site don't change files needlessly, so that the >> upload is minimal. >> >> On 18/01/2012, at 7:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> >> > 2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : >> >> Hi all guys, >> >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are >> managed >> >> >> >> * via the SCM >> >> * via svnpubsub >> >> >> >> At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear >> >> reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy >> >> procedure is slow and takes too much time :S >> > >> > Agree that wagon scm is slow >> > (http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html) >> > as it's a per file deploy/commit. >> > >> >> >> >> Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using mvn >> >> - that doesn't involve manual steps? >> >> A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the >> >> site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly >> >> procedure... >> > I don't see better solution :-( >> >> >> >> Many thanks in advance, all the best >> >> -Simo >> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >> >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >> >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >> >> http://www.99soft.org/ >> >> >> >> - >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Olivier Lamy >> > Talend: http://coders.talend.com >> > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> > >> >> -- >> Brett Porter >> br...@apache.org >> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ >> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter >> http://twitter.com/brettporter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >>
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Salut Arnaud, > > yes via Git is fast, I am using the > org.kathrynhuxtable.maven.wagon:wagon-gitsite and I can confirm it is > faster than SVN! Not for really big sites. it takes forever. > > All the best! > -Simo > > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ > http://twitter.com/simonetripodi > http://www.99soft.org/ > > > > 2012/1/18 Arnaud Héritier : >> Perhaps if the SCM was GIT instead of SVN it could be faster ? >> It's not a short term solution but it can be another reason to use Git ASAP. >> >> Arnaud >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Simone Tripodi >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> thanks for the feedbacks - we are using indeed the Kohsuke's wagon but >>> to deploy to ASF svn space it takes almost 3secs/page (it could be an >>> issue of my ADSL upload band) but since javadoc is really big, it >>> takes too much time :( >>> >>> wagon-ssh is still the faster :) >>> >>> all the best, have a nice day! >>> -Simo >>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Stephen Connolly >>> wrote: >>> > if the deps are cat a/b i can see about getting kk to donate the code >>> > here... but i think it uses svnkit so probably out of luck. (kk is an asf >>> > committer on one of the commons projects, so cla on file) >>> > >>> > - Stephen >>> > >>> > --- >>> > Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense >>> > words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on >>> the >>> > screen >>> > On 18 Jan 2012 00:27, "Brett Porter" wrote: >>> > >>> >> wagon-svn by Kohsuke is much faster, but both should work. >>> >> >>> >> Either way, I think the main thing we need to do is make sure repeated >>> >> identical executions of the site don't change files needlessly, so that >>> the >>> >> upload is minimal. >>> >> >>> >> On 18/01/2012, at 7:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > 2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : >>> >> >> Hi all guys, >>> >> >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are >>> >> managed >>> >> >> >>> >> >> * via the SCM >>> >> >> * via svnpubsub >>> >> >> >>> >> >> At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear >>> >> >> reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy >>> >> >> procedure is slow and takes too much time :S >>> >> > >>> >> > Agree that wagon scm is slow >>> >> > (http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html) >>> >> > as it's a per file deploy/commit. >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using >>> mvn >>> >> >> - that doesn't involve manual steps? >>> >> >> A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the >>> >> >> site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly >>> >> >> procedure... >>> >> > I don't see better solution :-( >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Many thanks in advance, all the best >>> >> >> -Simo >>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>> >> >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >>> >> >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >>> >> >> http://www.99soft.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >> >> - >>> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Olivier Lamy >>> >> > Talend: http://coders.talend.com >>> >> > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>> >> > >>> >> > - >>> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Brett Porter >>> >> br...@apache.org >>> >> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ >>> >> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter >>> >> http://twitter.com/brettporter >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> - >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >>> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@m
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
Hi Ant :) I got a reply from danielsh on JIRA[1] that simpli didn't allow me publishing the site via scp. I would really appreciate if you could help me to fix the misunderstanding, if any!!! Thanks in advance, all the best! -Simo [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4329 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:19 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simone Tripodi > wrote: >> Hi all guys, >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are managed >> >> * via the SCM >> * via svnpubsub >> > > Do you have any links to something that says that, I didn't think > there were any Incubator rules about what poddlings must do for > websites. > > ...ant > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
Salut Arnaud, yes via Git is fast, I am using the org.kathrynhuxtable.maven.wagon:wagon-gitsite and I can confirm it is faster than SVN! All the best! -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ 2012/1/18 Arnaud Héritier : > Perhaps if the SCM was GIT instead of SVN it could be faster ? > It's not a short term solution but it can be another reason to use Git ASAP. > > Arnaud > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Simone Tripodi > wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> thanks for the feedbacks - we are using indeed the Kohsuke's wagon but >> to deploy to ASF svn space it takes almost 3secs/page (it could be an >> issue of my ADSL upload band) but since javadoc is really big, it >> takes too much time :( >> >> wagon-ssh is still the faster :) >> >> all the best, have a nice day! >> -Simo >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >> http://www.99soft.org/ >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Stephen Connolly >> wrote: >> > if the deps are cat a/b i can see about getting kk to donate the code >> > here... but i think it uses svnkit so probably out of luck. (kk is an asf >> > committer on one of the commons projects, so cla on file) >> > >> > - Stephen >> > >> > --- >> > Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense >> > words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on >> the >> > screen >> > On 18 Jan 2012 00:27, "Brett Porter" wrote: >> > >> >> wagon-svn by Kohsuke is much faster, but both should work. >> >> >> >> Either way, I think the main thing we need to do is make sure repeated >> >> identical executions of the site don't change files needlessly, so that >> the >> >> upload is minimal. >> >> >> >> On 18/01/2012, at 7:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> >> >> >> > 2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : >> >> >> Hi all guys, >> >> >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are >> >> managed >> >> >> >> >> >> * via the SCM >> >> >> * via svnpubsub >> >> >> >> >> >> At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear >> >> >> reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy >> >> >> procedure is slow and takes too much time :S >> >> > >> >> > Agree that wagon scm is slow >> >> > (http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html) >> >> > as it's a per file deploy/commit. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using >> mvn >> >> >> - that doesn't involve manual steps? >> >> >> A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the >> >> >> site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly >> >> >> procedure... >> >> > I don't see better solution :-( >> >> >> >> >> >> Many thanks in advance, all the best >> >> >> -Simo >> >> >> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >> >> >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >> >> >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >> >> >> http://www.99soft.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Olivier Lamy >> >> > Talend: http://coders.talend.com >> >> > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Brett Porter >> >> br...@apache.org >> >> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ >> >> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter >> >> http://twitter.com/brettporter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all guys, > ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are managed > > * via the SCM > * via svnpubsub > Do you have any links to something that says that, I didn't think there were any Incubator rules about what poddlings must do for websites. ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
Perhaps if the SCM was GIT instead of SVN it could be faster ? It's not a short term solution but it can be another reason to use Git ASAP. Arnaud On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all! > > thanks for the feedbacks - we are using indeed the Kohsuke's wagon but > to deploy to ASF svn space it takes almost 3secs/page (it could be an > issue of my ADSL upload band) but since javadoc is really big, it > takes too much time :( > > wagon-ssh is still the faster :) > > all the best, have a nice day! > -Simo > > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ > http://twitter.com/simonetripodi > http://www.99soft.org/ > > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Stephen Connolly > wrote: > > if the deps are cat a/b i can see about getting kk to donate the code > > here... but i think it uses svnkit so probably out of luck. (kk is an asf > > committer on one of the commons projects, so cla on file) > > > > - Stephen > > > > --- > > Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense > > words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on > the > > screen > > On 18 Jan 2012 00:27, "Brett Porter" wrote: > > > >> wagon-svn by Kohsuke is much faster, but both should work. > >> > >> Either way, I think the main thing we need to do is make sure repeated > >> identical executions of the site don't change files needlessly, so that > the > >> upload is minimal. > >> > >> On 18/01/2012, at 7:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >> > >> > 2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : > >> >> Hi all guys, > >> >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are > >> managed > >> >> > >> >> * via the SCM > >> >> * via svnpubsub > >> >> > >> >> At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear > >> >> reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy > >> >> procedure is slow and takes too much time :S > >> > > >> > Agree that wagon scm is slow > >> > (http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html) > >> > as it's a per file deploy/commit. > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using > mvn > >> >> - that doesn't involve manual steps? > >> >> A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the > >> >> site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly > >> >> procedure... > >> > I don't see better solution :-( > >> >> > >> >> Many thanks in advance, all the best > >> >> -Simo > >> >> > >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > >> >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ > >> >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi > >> >> http://www.99soft.org/ > >> >> > >> >> - > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Olivier Lamy > >> > Talend: http://coders.talend.com > >> > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > >> > > >> > - > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> Brett Porter > >> br...@apache.org > >> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ > >> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter > >> http://twitter.com/brettporter > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
Hi all! thanks for the feedbacks - we are using indeed the Kohsuke's wagon but to deploy to ASF svn space it takes almost 3secs/page (it could be an issue of my ADSL upload band) but since javadoc is really big, it takes too much time :( wagon-ssh is still the faster :) all the best, have a nice day! -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > if the deps are cat a/b i can see about getting kk to donate the code > here... but i think it uses svnkit so probably out of luck. (kk is an asf > committer on one of the commons projects, so cla on file) > > - Stephen > > --- > Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense > words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the > screen > On 18 Jan 2012 00:27, "Brett Porter" wrote: > >> wagon-svn by Kohsuke is much faster, but both should work. >> >> Either way, I think the main thing we need to do is make sure repeated >> identical executions of the site don't change files needlessly, so that the >> upload is minimal. >> >> On 18/01/2012, at 7:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> >> > 2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : >> >> Hi all guys, >> >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are >> managed >> >> >> >> * via the SCM >> >> * via svnpubsub >> >> >> >> At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear >> >> reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy >> >> procedure is slow and takes too much time :S >> > >> > Agree that wagon scm is slow >> > (http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html) >> > as it's a per file deploy/commit. >> > >> >> >> >> Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using mvn >> >> - that doesn't involve manual steps? >> >> A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the >> >> site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly >> >> procedure... >> > I don't see better solution :-( >> >> >> >> Many thanks in advance, all the best >> >> -Simo >> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >> >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >> >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >> >> http://www.99soft.org/ >> >> >> >> - >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Olivier Lamy >> > Talend: http://coders.talend.com >> > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> > >> >> -- >> Brett Porter >> br...@apache.org >> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ >> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter >> http://twitter.com/brettporter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
if the deps are cat a/b i can see about getting kk to donate the code here... but i think it uses svnkit so probably out of luck. (kk is an asf committer on one of the commons projects, so cla on file) - Stephen --- Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the screen On 18 Jan 2012 00:27, "Brett Porter" wrote: > wagon-svn by Kohsuke is much faster, but both should work. > > Either way, I think the main thing we need to do is make sure repeated > identical executions of the site don't change files needlessly, so that the > upload is minimal. > > On 18/01/2012, at 7:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > > > 2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : > >> Hi all guys, > >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are > managed > >> > >> * via the SCM > >> * via svnpubsub > >> > >> At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear > >> reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy > >> procedure is slow and takes too much time :S > > > > Agree that wagon scm is slow > > (http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html) > > as it's a per file deploy/commit. > > > >> > >> Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using mvn > >> - that doesn't involve manual steps? > >> A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the > >> site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly > >> procedure... > > I don't see better solution :-( > >> > >> Many thanks in advance, all the best > >> -Simo > >> > >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ > >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi > >> http://www.99soft.org/ > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Olivier Lamy > > Talend: http://coders.talend.com > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > -- > Brett Porter > br...@apache.org > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ > http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter > http://twitter.com/brettporter > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
wagon-svn by Kohsuke is much faster, but both should work. Either way, I think the main thing we need to do is make sure repeated identical executions of the site don't change files needlessly, so that the upload is minimal. On 18/01/2012, at 7:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : >> Hi all guys, >> ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are managed >> >> * via the SCM >> * via svnpubsub >> >> At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear >> reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy >> procedure is slow and takes too much time :S > > Agree that wagon scm is slow > (http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html) > as it's a per file deploy/commit. > >> >> Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using mvn >> - that doesn't involve manual steps? >> A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the >> site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly >> procedure... > I don't see better solution :-( >> >> Many thanks in advance, all the best >> -Simo >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >> http://www.99soft.org/ >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> > > > > -- > Olivier Lamy > Talend: http://coders.talend.com > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > -- Brett Porter br...@apache.org http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter http://twitter.com/brettporter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: deploy maven site on SVN
2012/1/17 Simone Tripodi : > Hi all guys, > ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are managed > > * via the SCM > * via svnpubsub > > At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear > reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy > procedure is slow and takes too much time :S Agree that wagon scm is slow (http://maven.apache.org/wagon/wagon-providers/wagon-scm/usage.html) as it's a per file deploy/commit. > > Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using mvn > - that doesn't involve manual steps? > A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the > site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly > procedure... I don't see better solution :-( > > Many thanks in advance, all the best > -Simo > > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ > http://twitter.com/simonetripodi > http://www.99soft.org/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > -- Olivier Lamy Talend: http://coders.talend.com http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
deploy maven site on SVN
Hi all guys, ASF requirements for new incubating podlings requires that sites are managed * via the SCM * via svnpubsub At Apache Any23 we want to keep the mvn generated site for clear reasons - the problem is that using a 3rd part ftp-wagon the deploy procedure is slow and takes too much time :S Can you suggest us please an automated site-deploy procedure using mvn - that doesn't involve manual steps? A turnaround would be svn checking out the target dir, deploying the site there, then committing, but I don't think it is a friendly procedure... Many thanks in advance, all the best -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
