Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-28 Thread Ingo Hofmann
Hi there,
I'm a student in my last semester and highly interested in going in for the
GSOC this year. However, I'm able to afford only 15 hours a week (approx.).
Would it be a good idea to apply for this project unter these time
limitation? I really don't have a clue about the required effort.

I would appreciate an advice.

Cheers,
Ingo

2010/1/27 Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org

 no hurry! :-) Take it easy ;-)

 Thanks!
 Matthias

 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Ali Ok al...@aliok.com.tr wrote:
  Hi Matthias,
 
  Thanks for your support. I think this GSOC will be cool:)
 
  Since this will be a seperate project, I will start modifiying my local
  Tomahawk code-base, and inspecting how it works, right away.
 
  About GAE, I've started preparing the document yesterday, but couldn't
  finished. I will send the APT document, and a tutorial explaining how to
 set
  up a Eclipse project, this night for sure.
 
  Best Regards,
  Ali
 
  On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 
  wrote:
 
  Hey Ali,
 
  the Google Summer of code has been announced (see my other email).
 
  Regarding this idea on HTML5 related stuff,
  I would like to sign as a mentor for it.
 
  @GAE: I saw your path; Jakob did a quick review.
  So, I hope we can commit that soon. Some more documentation,
  e.g. a guide or a tutorial would be nice :-)
 
  -Matthias
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Ali Ok al...@aliok.com.tr wrote:
   Hi all,
   I sent a couple of mails about MyFaces on Google App Engine GSOC
   proposal.
   But after some progress and a conversation with Matthias, I realized
   that it
   is too small for GSOC.
  
   And I am willing to implement HTML5 Renderkit.
  
   Meanwhile, I will work on GAE support in parallel. I will post my
 patch
   to
   JIRA after some -more- tests.
  
   Regards,
   Ali
  
   On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Gerhard Petracek
   gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   +1
   regards,
   gerhard
  
   http://www.irian.at
  
   Your JSF powerhouse -
   JSF Consulting, Development and
   Courses in English and German
  
   Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
  
  
  
   2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
  
   as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this
   ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0)
  
   -Matze
  
   On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf
   mat...@apache.org
   wrote:
Hi guys,
   
running into this document:
http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html
   
I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium
browser
(I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
HTML5).
   
What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a
 (raw)
HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there
 is
actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
browsers...
   
Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff
as
the following:
-hx:inputRangeSlider
-hx:inputColor
-hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /
   
And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
-fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)
   
etc.
   
What do folks think about that?
   
--
Matthias Wessendorf
   
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
   
  
  
  
   --
   Matthias Wessendorf
  
   blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
   sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
   twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
  
  
  
 
 
 
  --
  Matthias Wessendorf
 
  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf



Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hey Ali,

the Google Summer of code has been announced (see my other email).

Regarding this idea on HTML5 related stuff,
I would like to sign as a mentor for it.

@GAE: I saw your path; Jakob did a quick review.
So, I hope we can commit that soon. Some more documentation,
e.g. a guide or a tutorial would be nice :-)

-Matthias


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Ali Ok al...@aliok.com.tr wrote:
 Hi all,
 I sent a couple of mails about MyFaces on Google App Engine GSOC proposal.
 But after some progress and a conversation with Matthias, I realized that it
 is too small for GSOC.

 And I am willing to implement HTML5 Renderkit.

 Meanwhile, I will work on GAE support in parallel. I will post my patch to
 JIRA after some -more- tests.

 Regards,
 Ali

 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Gerhard Petracek
 gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1
 regards,
 gerhard

 http://www.irian.at

 Your JSF powerhouse -
 JSF Consulting, Development and
 Courses in English and German

 Professional Support for Apache MyFaces



 2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org

 as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this
 ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0)

 -Matze

 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  running into this document:
  http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html
 
  I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
  (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
  HTML5).
 
  What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
  HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
  a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
  actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
  browsers...
 
  Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
  the following:
  -hx:inputRangeSlider
  -hx:inputColor
  -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /
 
  And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
  -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)
 
  etc.
 
  What do folks think about that?
 
  --
  Matthias Wessendorf
 
  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf






-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf


Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-27 Thread Ali Ok
Hi Matthias,

Thanks for your support. I think this GSOC will be cool:)

Since this will be a seperate project, I will start modifiying my local
Tomahawk code-base, and inspecting how it works, right away.

About GAE, I've started preparing the document yesterday, but couldn't
finished. I will send the APT document, and a tutorial explaining how to set
up a Eclipse project, this night for sure.

Best Regards,
Ali

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hey Ali,

 the Google Summer of code has been announced (see my other email).

 Regarding this idea on HTML5 related stuff,
 I would like to sign as a mentor for it.

 @GAE: I saw your path; Jakob did a quick review.
 So, I hope we can commit that soon. Some more documentation,
 e.g. a guide or a tutorial would be nice :-)

 -Matthias


 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Ali Ok al...@aliok.com.tr wrote:
  Hi all,
  I sent a couple of mails about MyFaces on Google App Engine GSOC
 proposal.
  But after some progress and a conversation with Matthias, I realized that
 it
  is too small for GSOC.
 
  And I am willing to implement HTML5 Renderkit.
 
  Meanwhile, I will work on GAE support in parallel. I will post my patch
 to
  JIRA after some -more- tests.
 
  Regards,
  Ali
 
  On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Gerhard Petracek
  gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  +1
  regards,
  gerhard
 
  http://www.irian.at
 
  Your JSF powerhouse -
  JSF Consulting, Development and
  Courses in English and German
 
  Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
 
 
 
  2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 
  as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this
  ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0)
 
  -Matze
 
  On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 
  wrote:
   Hi guys,
  
   running into this document:
   http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html
  
   I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
   (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
   HTML5).
  
   What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
   HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
   a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
   actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
   browsers...
  
   Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
   the following:
   -hx:inputRangeSlider
   -hx:inputColor
   -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /
  
   And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
   -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)
  
   etc.
  
   What do folks think about that?
  
   --
   Matthias Wessendorf
  
   blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
   sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
   twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
  
 
 
 
  --
  Matthias Wessendorf
 
  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 
 
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf



Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-21 Thread Kito Mann
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi guys,

 running into this document:
 http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html

 I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
 (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
 HTML5).

 What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
 HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
 a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
 actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
 browsers...

 Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
 the following:
 -hx:inputRangeSlider
 -hx:inputColor
 -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /

 And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
 -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)

 etc.

 What do folks think about that?

 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf



Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-20 Thread Ali Ok
Hi all,
I sent a couple of mails about MyFaces on Google App Engine GSOC proposal.
But after some progress and a conversation with Matthias, I realized that it
is too small for GSOC.

And I am willing to implement HTML5 Renderkit.

Meanwhile, I will work on GAE support in parallel. I will post my patch to
JIRA after some -more- tests.

Regards,
Ali

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Gerhard Petracek 
gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1

 regards,
 gerhard

 http://www.irian.at

 Your JSF powerhouse -
 JSF Consulting, Development and
 Courses in English and German

 Professional Support for Apache MyFaces



 2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org

 as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this
 ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0)

 -Matze

 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  running into this document:
  http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html
 
  I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
  (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
  HTML5).
 
  What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
  HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
  a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
  actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
  browsers...
 
  Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
  the following:
  -hx:inputRangeSlider
  -hx:inputColor
  -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /
 
  And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
  -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)
 
  etc.
 
  What do folks think about that?
 
  --
  Matthias Wessendorf
 
  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf





Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-20 Thread Bruno Aranda
+1

2010/1/20 Ali Ok al...@aliok.com.tr

 Hi all,
 I sent a couple of mails about MyFaces on Google App Engine GSOC
 proposal. But after some progress and a conversation with Matthias, I
 realized that it is too small for GSOC.

 And I am willing to implement HTML5 Renderkit.

 Meanwhile, I will work on GAE support in parallel. I will post my patch to
 JIRA after some -more- tests.

 Regards,
 Ali


 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Gerhard Petracek 
 gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1

 regards,
 gerhard

 http://www.irian.at

 Your JSF powerhouse -
 JSF Consulting, Development and
 Courses in English and German

 Professional Support for Apache MyFaces



 2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org

 as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this
 ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0)

 -Matze

 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  running into this document:
  http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html
 
  I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
  (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
  HTML5).
 
  What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
  HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
  a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
  actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
  browsers...
 
  Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
  the following:
  -hx:inputRangeSlider
  -hx:inputColor
  -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /
 
  And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
  -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)
 
  etc.
 
  What do folks think about that?
 
  --
  Matthias Wessendorf
 
  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf






Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-20 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Ali Ok al...@aliok.com.tr wrote:
 Hi all,
 I sent a couple of mails about MyFaces on Google App Engine GSOC proposal.
 But after some progress and a conversation with Matthias, I realized that it
 is too small for GSOC.

 And I am willing to implement HTML5 Renderkit.

sounds good to me.


 Meanwhile, I will work on GAE support in parallel. I will post my patch to
 JIRA after some -more- tests.

that's great. Once the stuff is present, please send out a new mail
(different/new thread)
so that folks can take a look at the changes.

-Matthias


 Regards,
 Ali

 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Gerhard Petracek
 gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1
 regards,
 gerhard

 http://www.irian.at

 Your JSF powerhouse -
 JSF Consulting, Development and
 Courses in English and German

 Professional Support for Apache MyFaces



 2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org

 as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this
 ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0)

 -Matze

 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  running into this document:
  http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html
 
  I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
  (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
  HTML5).
 
  What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
  HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
  a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
  actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
  browsers...
 
  Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
  the following:
  -hx:inputRangeSlider
  -hx:inputColor
  -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /
 
  And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
  -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)
 
  etc.
 
  What do folks think about that?
 
  --
  Matthias Wessendorf
 
  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf






-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf


Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-06 Thread Michael Kurz
Sounds like a very good idea to me. I guess html 5 will gain in 
importance in the not so far future.


regards
Michael

Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:

Hi guys,

running into this document:
http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html

I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
(I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
HTML5).

What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
browsers...

Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
the following:
-hx:inputRangeSlider
-hx:inputColor
-hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /

And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
-fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)

etc.

What do folks think about that?





Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-06 Thread Jakob Korherr
That's a really, really good idea, Matthias!
And I also think that it should be for MyFaces 2.0 only.

Regards,
Jakob

2010/1/6 Michael Kurz michi.k...@gmx.at

 Sounds like a very good idea to me. I guess html 5 will gain in importance
 in the not so far future.

 regards
 Michael

 Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:

  Hi guys,

 running into this document:
 http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html

 I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
 (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
 HTML5).

 What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
 HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
 a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
 actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
 browsers...

 Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
 the following:
 -hx:inputRangeSlider
 -hx:inputColor
 -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /

 And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
 -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)

 etc.

 What do folks think about that?





Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-06 Thread Cédric Durmont
Excuse me to sneak in the conversation, but may I suggest that this
html5 renderkit could be an opportunity to write a table-less
renderkit, relying more on CSS ? I think this could lead to lighter
html pages (with the default renderkit, you quickly end up with 5-10
nested tables without doing anything special) and easier/more flexible
skinning...



2010/1/6 Jakob Korherr jakob.korh...@gmail.com:
 That's a really, really good idea, Matthias!
 And I also think that it should be for MyFaces 2.0 only.

 Regards,
 Jakob

 2010/1/6 Michael Kurz michi.k...@gmx.at

 Sounds like a very good idea to me. I guess html 5 will gain in importance
 in the not so far future.

 regards
 Michael

 Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:

 Hi guys,

 running into this document:
 http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html

 I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
 (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
 HTML5).

 What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
 HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
 a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
 actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
 browsers...

 Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
 the following:
 -hx:inputRangeSlider
 -hx:inputColor
 -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /

 And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
 -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)

 etc.

 What do folks think about that?






Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-06 Thread Jakob Korherr
A more div-related layout would be _REALLY_ great. Maybe we can do this in
tomahawk 2.0.


2010/1/6 Cédric Durmont cdurm...@gmail.com

 Excuse me to sneak in the conversation, but may I suggest that this
 html5 renderkit could be an opportunity to write a table-less
 renderkit, relying more on CSS ? I think this could lead to lighter
 html pages (with the default renderkit, you quickly end up with 5-10
 nested tables without doing anything special) and easier/more flexible
 skinning...



 2010/1/6 Jakob Korherr jakob.korh...@gmail.com:
  That's a really, really good idea, Matthias!
  And I also think that it should be for MyFaces 2.0 only.
 
  Regards,
  Jakob
 
  2010/1/6 Michael Kurz michi.k...@gmx.at
 
  Sounds like a very good idea to me. I guess html 5 will gain in
 importance
  in the not so far future.
 
  regards
  Michael
 
  Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
 
  Hi guys,
 
  running into this document:
  http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html
 
  I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
  (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
  HTML5).
 
  What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
  HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
  a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
  actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
  browsers...
 
  Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
  the following:
  -hx:inputRangeSlider
  -hx:inputColor
  -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /
 
  And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
  -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)
 
  etc.
 
  What do folks think about that?
 
 
 
 



Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-06 Thread Jan-Kees van Andel
+1 on the HTML 5 RenderKit.

Yeah, and maybe ditch (or at least provide a more semantic) panelGrid,
for example, with a parameter to customize the HTML: dl+dd+dt, div,
table, ul/ol...
Especially when writing interactive apps with (slide) effects, I
always had a lot of issues with table-based forms...

About MyFaces 2.0: If someone manages to create a 1.2 compatible HTML
5 RenderKit, I don't have a problem with that (don't think it's easy
though)...

/JK

2010/1/6 Jakob Korherr jakob.korh...@gmail.com:
 A more div-related layout would be _REALLY_ great. Maybe we can do this in
 tomahawk 2.0.


 2010/1/6 Cédric Durmont cdurm...@gmail.com

 Excuse me to sneak in the conversation, but may I suggest that this
 html5 renderkit could be an opportunity to write a table-less
 renderkit, relying more on CSS ? I think this could lead to lighter
 html pages (with the default renderkit, you quickly end up with 5-10
 nested tables without doing anything special) and easier/more flexible
 skinning...



 2010/1/6 Jakob Korherr jakob.korh...@gmail.com:
  That's a really, really good idea, Matthias!
  And I also think that it should be for MyFaces 2.0 only.
 
  Regards,
  Jakob
 
  2010/1/6 Michael Kurz michi.k...@gmx.at
 
  Sounds like a very good idea to me. I guess html 5 will gain in
  importance
  in the not so far future.
 
  regards
  Michael
 
  Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
 
  Hi guys,
 
  running into this document:
  http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html
 
  I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
  (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
  HTML5).
 
  What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
  HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
  a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
  actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
  browsers...
 
  Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
  the following:
  -hx:inputRangeSlider
  -hx:inputColor
  -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /
 
  And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
  -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)
 
  etc.
 
  What do folks think about that?
 
 
 
 




Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-06 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1

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2010/1/6 Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org

 as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this
 ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0)

 -Matze

 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  running into this document:
  http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html
 
  I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
  (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
  HTML5).
 
  What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
  HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
  a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
  actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
  browsers...
 
  Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
  the following:
  -hx:inputRangeSlider
  -hx:inputColor
  -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /
 
  And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
  -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)
 
  etc.
 
  What do folks think about that?
 
  --
  Matthias Wessendorf
 
  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf



[GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-05 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi guys,

running into this document:
http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html

I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
(I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
HTML5).

What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
browsers...

Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
the following:
-hx:inputRangeSlider
-hx:inputColor
-hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /

And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
-fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)

etc.

What do folks think about that?

-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf


Re: [GSoc] Google Summer of Code Idea

2010-01-05 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
as the mentioned behavior support already said, I'd like to see this
ONLY for JSF2.0 (MyFaces 2.0)

-Matze

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi guys,

 running into this document:
 http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html

 I started playing with some of the new widgets in my Chromium browser
 (I wasn't aware that spinbox/sliders are part of
 HTML5).

 What about trying to find someone for a GSoC project, to add a (raw)
 HTML 5 renderkit? Bernd and I talked about
 a potential renderkit last time we saw each other, but now there is
 actually some (raw) support on it inside of some
 browsers...

 Why not introducing an hx:*** namespace that could contain stuff as
 the following:
 -hx:inputRangeSlider
 -hx:inputColor
 -hx:whatEverNewWidgetIsPartOfHTML5 /

 And/or some more functional stuff, like drag-and-drop:
 -fx:dragAndDrop... (could be done as a behavior)

 etc.

 What do folks think about that?

 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf




-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf