Re: [PROPOSAL] ADF-Faces as a new Podling

2006-02-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
On 2/21/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm
>
> ok - I just have seen many proposals coming in via general. Never mind!
>
> Have you got any feedback on the proposal so far?

Njet.
-Manfred



>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 2/20/06, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Martin,
> > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+of+Proposal+by+Sponsor
> > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Manfred
> >
> >
> > On 2/19/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Manfred,
> > >
> > > I think you have to send this to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > On 2/19/06, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Dear Incubator PMC,
> > > >
> > > > We, the sponsoring members listed below, ask that you accept the
> > > > following proposal for a new project at Apache, an effort centered on
> > > > providing web application developers with a
> > > > rich set of user interface components based on the JavaServer Faces
> > > > specification.
> > > >
> > > >  * You can find the proposal here: 
> > > > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/adfproposal
> > > > A snapshot of the proposal is attached to this mail for your 
> > > > convenience.
> > > >
> > > >  * Here is a reference to the candidate acceptance vote by the MyFaces 
> > > > PMC:
> > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200602.mbox/[EMAIL 
> > > > PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >  * Mentor, nominated by the Sponsor: Craig McClanahan
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Manfred Geiler
> > > > (MyFaces PMC Chair)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Proposal for ADF Faces, a MyFaces subproject 6 February 2006, The ADF
> > > > Faces Team (contributions by: Adam Winer, awiner at gmail dot com;
> > > > john dot r dot fallows at gmail dot com)
> > > >
> > > > (0) rationale
> > > >
> > > > Apache MyFaces strives to provide an environment where open source
> > > > developers can create new components and contribute them back to the
> > > > community.
> > > >
> > > > The goal of ADF Faces is to provide web application developers with a
> > > > rich set of user interface components based on the JavaServer Faces
> > > > specification.
> > > >
> > > > ADF Faces comes with very high quality components, a dialog framework,
> > > > as well as personalization and skinning capabilities. ADF Faces
> > > > features include: file upload support, client-side validation, partial
> > > > rendering of a page (AJAX-style), data tables, hierarchical tables,
> > > > color/date pickers, progress indicators, menu tabs/buttons, wizards,
> > > > internationalization and accessibility. A complete list of the ADF
> > > > Faces components is available (here.) This project starts with more
> > > > than 100 components which have already been documented and thoroughly
> > > > tested.
> > > >
> > > > ADF Faces is a temporary name for this project, what it will be called
> > > > in the future is yet to be determined by the Apache MyFaces community.
> > > > ADF Faces development started in 2001. Initial development took place
> > > > outside the Apache Software Foundation, therefore the ADF Faces team
> > > > and MyFaces are applying for incubation.
> > > >
> > > > (0.1) criteria
> > > >
> > > > Meritocracy:
> > > >
> > > > The ADF Faces project will be consensus-based using the mailing lists
> > > > and completely transparent. Developers will employ Apache conventions,
> > > > such as "+1", when coming to decisions and if necessary voting will
> > > > establish the final 'will' of the community.
> > > >
> > > > Community:
> > > >
> > > > The MyFaces project and the ?JavaServer Faces standard hold great
> > > > promise. A rich set of UI components will significantly accelerate
> > > > their adoption. We strongly believe that ADF Faces will gather
> > > > significant momentum and enough developers to build a vibrant
> > > > community of users and contributors. We look forward to seeing more
> > > > components "blossom" as part of the Apache MyFaces project.
> > > >
> > > > Core Developers:
> > > >
> > > > ADF Faces was developed by five Oracle employees including Adam Winer
> > > > (active member of the ?JavaServer Faces expert group since day one)
> > > > and John Fallows co-author of "Pro JSF and Ajax". Developers have
> > > > filed the Contribution License Agreement. Oracle has also filed the
> > > > Corporate Contribution License Agreement.
> > > >
> > > > Three PMC members from the MyFaces project are currently planning to
> > > > become active ADF Faces developers, others will hopefully follow:
> > > >
> > > >* Matthias Wessendorf
> > > >* Martin Marinschek
> > > >* Bruno Aranda
> > > >
> > > > Alignment:
> > > >
> > > > ADF Faces aligns perfectly with MyFaces and other ASF projects
> > > > utilizing J2EE infrastructure such as Tomcat. Of pa

Re: [PROPOSAL] ADF-Faces as a new Podling

2006-02-20 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hmmm

ok - I just have seen many proposals coming in via general. Never mind!

Have you got any feedback on the proposal so far?

regards,

Martin

On 2/20/06, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martin,
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+of+Proposal+by+Sponsor
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html
>
> ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Manfred
>
>
> On 2/19/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Manfred,
> >
> > I think you have to send this to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 2/19/06, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dear Incubator PMC,
> > >
> > > We, the sponsoring members listed below, ask that you accept the
> > > following proposal for a new project at Apache, an effort centered on
> > > providing web application developers with a
> > > rich set of user interface components based on the JavaServer Faces
> > > specification.
> > >
> > >  * You can find the proposal here: 
> > > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/adfproposal
> > > A snapshot of the proposal is attached to this mail for your convenience.
> > >
> > >  * Here is a reference to the candidate acceptance vote by the MyFaces 
> > > PMC:
> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200602.mbox/[EMAIL 
> > > PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >  * Mentor, nominated by the Sponsor: Craig McClanahan
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Manfred Geiler
> > > (MyFaces PMC Chair)
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > Proposal for ADF Faces, a MyFaces subproject 6 February 2006, The ADF
> > > Faces Team (contributions by: Adam Winer, awiner at gmail dot com;
> > > john dot r dot fallows at gmail dot com)
> > >
> > > (0) rationale
> > >
> > > Apache MyFaces strives to provide an environment where open source
> > > developers can create new components and contribute them back to the
> > > community.
> > >
> > > The goal of ADF Faces is to provide web application developers with a
> > > rich set of user interface components based on the JavaServer Faces
> > > specification.
> > >
> > > ADF Faces comes with very high quality components, a dialog framework,
> > > as well as personalization and skinning capabilities. ADF Faces
> > > features include: file upload support, client-side validation, partial
> > > rendering of a page (AJAX-style), data tables, hierarchical tables,
> > > color/date pickers, progress indicators, menu tabs/buttons, wizards,
> > > internationalization and accessibility. A complete list of the ADF
> > > Faces components is available (here.) This project starts with more
> > > than 100 components which have already been documented and thoroughly
> > > tested.
> > >
> > > ADF Faces is a temporary name for this project, what it will be called
> > > in the future is yet to be determined by the Apache MyFaces community.
> > > ADF Faces development started in 2001. Initial development took place
> > > outside the Apache Software Foundation, therefore the ADF Faces team
> > > and MyFaces are applying for incubation.
> > >
> > > (0.1) criteria
> > >
> > > Meritocracy:
> > >
> > > The ADF Faces project will be consensus-based using the mailing lists
> > > and completely transparent. Developers will employ Apache conventions,
> > > such as "+1", when coming to decisions and if necessary voting will
> > > establish the final 'will' of the community.
> > >
> > > Community:
> > >
> > > The MyFaces project and the ?JavaServer Faces standard hold great
> > > promise. A rich set of UI components will significantly accelerate
> > > their adoption. We strongly believe that ADF Faces will gather
> > > significant momentum and enough developers to build a vibrant
> > > community of users and contributors. We look forward to seeing more
> > > components "blossom" as part of the Apache MyFaces project.
> > >
> > > Core Developers:
> > >
> > > ADF Faces was developed by five Oracle employees including Adam Winer
> > > (active member of the ?JavaServer Faces expert group since day one)
> > > and John Fallows co-author of "Pro JSF and Ajax". Developers have
> > > filed the Contribution License Agreement. Oracle has also filed the
> > > Corporate Contribution License Agreement.
> > >
> > > Three PMC members from the MyFaces project are currently planning to
> > > become active ADF Faces developers, others will hopefully follow:
> > >
> > >* Matthias Wessendorf
> > >* Martin Marinschek
> > >* Bruno Aranda
> > >
> > > Alignment:
> > >
> > > ADF Faces aligns perfectly with MyFaces and other ASF projects
> > > utilizing J2EE infrastructure such as Tomcat. Of particular relevance
> > > are projects such as Geronimo, Apache libraries like Jakarta Taglibs
> > > and Apache Maven.
> > >
> > > (0.2) warning signs
> > >
> > > Orphaned products:
> > >
> > > Most of the active developers would like to become ADF Faces
> > > Committers or PMC Members and plan to remain active in the project

Re: [PROPOSAL] ADF-Faces as a new Podling

2006-02-20 Thread Manfred Geiler
Martin,
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+of+Proposal+by+Sponsor
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html

;-)

Regards,
Manfred


On 2/19/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Manfred,
>
> I think you have to send this to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 2/19/06, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear Incubator PMC,
> >
> > We, the sponsoring members listed below, ask that you accept the
> > following proposal for a new project at Apache, an effort centered on
> > providing web application developers with a
> > rich set of user interface components based on the JavaServer Faces
> > specification.
> >
> >  * You can find the proposal here: 
> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/adfproposal
> > A snapshot of the proposal is attached to this mail for your convenience.
> >
> >  * Here is a reference to the candidate acceptance vote by the MyFaces PMC:
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200602.mbox/[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]
> >
> >  * Mentor, nominated by the Sponsor: Craig McClanahan
> >
> > Regards,
> > Manfred Geiler
> > (MyFaces PMC Chair)
> >
> >
> > 
> > Proposal for ADF Faces, a MyFaces subproject 6 February 2006, The ADF
> > Faces Team (contributions by: Adam Winer, awiner at gmail dot com;
> > john dot r dot fallows at gmail dot com)
> >
> > (0) rationale
> >
> > Apache MyFaces strives to provide an environment where open source
> > developers can create new components and contribute them back to the
> > community.
> >
> > The goal of ADF Faces is to provide web application developers with a
> > rich set of user interface components based on the JavaServer Faces
> > specification.
> >
> > ADF Faces comes with very high quality components, a dialog framework,
> > as well as personalization and skinning capabilities. ADF Faces
> > features include: file upload support, client-side validation, partial
> > rendering of a page (AJAX-style), data tables, hierarchical tables,
> > color/date pickers, progress indicators, menu tabs/buttons, wizards,
> > internationalization and accessibility. A complete list of the ADF
> > Faces components is available (here.) This project starts with more
> > than 100 components which have already been documented and thoroughly
> > tested.
> >
> > ADF Faces is a temporary name for this project, what it will be called
> > in the future is yet to be determined by the Apache MyFaces community.
> > ADF Faces development started in 2001. Initial development took place
> > outside the Apache Software Foundation, therefore the ADF Faces team
> > and MyFaces are applying for incubation.
> >
> > (0.1) criteria
> >
> > Meritocracy:
> >
> > The ADF Faces project will be consensus-based using the mailing lists
> > and completely transparent. Developers will employ Apache conventions,
> > such as "+1", when coming to decisions and if necessary voting will
> > establish the final 'will' of the community.
> >
> > Community:
> >
> > The MyFaces project and the ?JavaServer Faces standard hold great
> > promise. A rich set of UI components will significantly accelerate
> > their adoption. We strongly believe that ADF Faces will gather
> > significant momentum and enough developers to build a vibrant
> > community of users and contributors. We look forward to seeing more
> > components "blossom" as part of the Apache MyFaces project.
> >
> > Core Developers:
> >
> > ADF Faces was developed by five Oracle employees including Adam Winer
> > (active member of the ?JavaServer Faces expert group since day one)
> > and John Fallows co-author of "Pro JSF and Ajax". Developers have
> > filed the Contribution License Agreement. Oracle has also filed the
> > Corporate Contribution License Agreement.
> >
> > Three PMC members from the MyFaces project are currently planning to
> > become active ADF Faces developers, others will hopefully follow:
> >
> >* Matthias Wessendorf
> >* Martin Marinschek
> >* Bruno Aranda
> >
> > Alignment:
> >
> > ADF Faces aligns perfectly with MyFaces and other ASF projects
> > utilizing J2EE infrastructure such as Tomcat. Of particular relevance
> > are projects such as Geronimo, Apache libraries like Jakarta Taglibs
> > and Apache Maven.
> >
> > (0.2) warning signs
> >
> > Orphaned products:
> >
> > Most of the active developers would like to become ADF Faces
> > Committers or PMC Members and plan to remain active in the project.
> >
> > Inexperience with open source:
> >
> > Most ADF Faces developers have been consuming open source projects
> > extensively and participating in open source mailing lists. In fact
> > Adam Winer and John Fallows have been actively involved in the Apache
> > MyFaces mailing list. Our mentors and the MyFaces team have great
> > experience with open source development and ASF and already sharing
> > with the ADF Faces team.
> >
> > Homogeno

Re: [PROPOSAL] ADF-Faces as a new Podling

2006-02-19 Thread Martin Marinschek
Manfred,

I think you have to send this to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

regards,

Martin

On 2/19/06, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Incubator PMC,
>
> We, the sponsoring members listed below, ask that you accept the
> following proposal for a new project at Apache, an effort centered on
> providing web application developers with a
> rich set of user interface components based on the JavaServer Faces
> specification.
>
>  * You can find the proposal here: http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/adfproposal
> A snapshot of the proposal is attached to this mail for your convenience.
>
>  * Here is a reference to the candidate acceptance vote by the MyFaces PMC:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200602.mbox/[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
>
>  * Mentor, nominated by the Sponsor: Craig McClanahan
>
> Regards,
> Manfred Geiler
> (MyFaces PMC Chair)
>
>
> 
> Proposal for ADF Faces, a MyFaces subproject 6 February 2006, The ADF
> Faces Team (contributions by: Adam Winer, awiner at gmail dot com;
> john dot r dot fallows at gmail dot com)
>
> (0) rationale
>
> Apache MyFaces strives to provide an environment where open source
> developers can create new components and contribute them back to the
> community.
>
> The goal of ADF Faces is to provide web application developers with a
> rich set of user interface components based on the JavaServer Faces
> specification.
>
> ADF Faces comes with very high quality components, a dialog framework,
> as well as personalization and skinning capabilities. ADF Faces
> features include: file upload support, client-side validation, partial
> rendering of a page (AJAX-style), data tables, hierarchical tables,
> color/date pickers, progress indicators, menu tabs/buttons, wizards,
> internationalization and accessibility. A complete list of the ADF
> Faces components is available (here.) This project starts with more
> than 100 components which have already been documented and thoroughly
> tested.
>
> ADF Faces is a temporary name for this project, what it will be called
> in the future is yet to be determined by the Apache MyFaces community.
> ADF Faces development started in 2001. Initial development took place
> outside the Apache Software Foundation, therefore the ADF Faces team
> and MyFaces are applying for incubation.
>
> (0.1) criteria
>
> Meritocracy:
>
> The ADF Faces project will be consensus-based using the mailing lists
> and completely transparent. Developers will employ Apache conventions,
> such as "+1", when coming to decisions and if necessary voting will
> establish the final 'will' of the community.
>
> Community:
>
> The MyFaces project and the ?JavaServer Faces standard hold great
> promise. A rich set of UI components will significantly accelerate
> their adoption. We strongly believe that ADF Faces will gather
> significant momentum and enough developers to build a vibrant
> community of users and contributors. We look forward to seeing more
> components "blossom" as part of the Apache MyFaces project.
>
> Core Developers:
>
> ADF Faces was developed by five Oracle employees including Adam Winer
> (active member of the ?JavaServer Faces expert group since day one)
> and John Fallows co-author of "Pro JSF and Ajax". Developers have
> filed the Contribution License Agreement. Oracle has also filed the
> Corporate Contribution License Agreement.
>
> Three PMC members from the MyFaces project are currently planning to
> become active ADF Faces developers, others will hopefully follow:
>
>* Matthias Wessendorf
>* Martin Marinschek
>* Bruno Aranda
>
> Alignment:
>
> ADF Faces aligns perfectly with MyFaces and other ASF projects
> utilizing J2EE infrastructure such as Tomcat. Of particular relevance
> are projects such as Geronimo, Apache libraries like Jakarta Taglibs
> and Apache Maven.
>
> (0.2) warning signs
>
> Orphaned products:
>
> Most of the active developers would like to become ADF Faces
> Committers or PMC Members and plan to remain active in the project.
>
> Inexperience with open source:
>
> Most ADF Faces developers have been consuming open source projects
> extensively and participating in open source mailing lists. In fact
> Adam Winer and John Fallows have been actively involved in the Apache
> MyFaces mailing list. Our mentors and the MyFaces team have great
> experience with open source development and ASF and already sharing
> with the ADF Faces team.
>
> Homogenous developers:
>
> We understand full well that development discussions need to take
> place on the public developers list not behind closed doors. Oracle
> will strongly encourage developers across the globe to join the ADF
> Faces community.
>
> Reliance on salaried developers:
>
> Although ADF Faces was built by Oracle developers, initial interest
> from the MyFaces community seems strong. We anticipate several MyFaces
> community members to join the ADF Faces effort which will dil

[PROPOSAL] ADF-Faces as a new Podling

2006-02-19 Thread Manfred Geiler
Dear Incubator PMC,

We, the sponsoring members listed below, ask that you accept the
following proposal for a new project at Apache, an effort centered on
providing web application developers with a
rich set of user interface components based on the JavaServer Faces
specification.

 * You can find the proposal here: http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/adfproposal
A snapshot of the proposal is attached to this mail for your convenience.

 * Here is a reference to the candidate acceptance vote by the MyFaces PMC:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200602.mbox/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

 * Mentor, nominated by the Sponsor: Craig McClanahan

Regards,
Manfred Geiler
(MyFaces PMC Chair)



Proposal for ADF Faces, a MyFaces subproject 6 February 2006, The ADF
Faces Team (contributions by: Adam Winer, awiner at gmail dot com;
john dot r dot fallows at gmail dot com)

(0) rationale

Apache MyFaces strives to provide an environment where open source
developers can create new components and contribute them back to the
community.

The goal of ADF Faces is to provide web application developers with a
rich set of user interface components based on the JavaServer Faces
specification.

ADF Faces comes with very high quality components, a dialog framework,
as well as personalization and skinning capabilities. ADF Faces
features include: file upload support, client-side validation, partial
rendering of a page (AJAX-style), data tables, hierarchical tables,
color/date pickers, progress indicators, menu tabs/buttons, wizards,
internationalization and accessibility. A complete list of the ADF
Faces components is available (here.) This project starts with more
than 100 components which have already been documented and thoroughly
tested.

ADF Faces is a temporary name for this project, what it will be called
in the future is yet to be determined by the Apache MyFaces community.
ADF Faces development started in 2001. Initial development took place
outside the Apache Software Foundation, therefore the ADF Faces team
and MyFaces are applying for incubation.

(0.1) criteria

Meritocracy:

The ADF Faces project will be consensus-based using the mailing lists
and completely transparent. Developers will employ Apache conventions,
such as "+1", when coming to decisions and if necessary voting will
establish the final 'will' of the community.

Community:

The MyFaces project and the ?JavaServer Faces standard hold great
promise. A rich set of UI components will significantly accelerate
their adoption. We strongly believe that ADF Faces will gather
significant momentum and enough developers to build a vibrant
community of users and contributors. We look forward to seeing more
components "blossom" as part of the Apache MyFaces project.

Core Developers:

ADF Faces was developed by five Oracle employees including Adam Winer
(active member of the ?JavaServer Faces expert group since day one)
and John Fallows co-author of "Pro JSF and Ajax". Developers have
filed the Contribution License Agreement. Oracle has also filed the
Corporate Contribution License Agreement.

Three PMC members from the MyFaces project are currently planning to
become active ADF Faces developers, others will hopefully follow:

   * Matthias Wessendorf
   * Martin Marinschek
   * Bruno Aranda

Alignment:

ADF Faces aligns perfectly with MyFaces and other ASF projects
utilizing J2EE infrastructure such as Tomcat. Of particular relevance
are projects such as Geronimo, Apache libraries like Jakarta Taglibs
and Apache Maven.

(0.2) warning signs

Orphaned products:

Most of the active developers would like to become ADF Faces
Committers or PMC Members and plan to remain active in the project.

Inexperience with open source:

Most ADF Faces developers have been consuming open source projects
extensively and participating in open source mailing lists. In fact
Adam Winer and John Fallows have been actively involved in the Apache
MyFaces mailing list. Our mentors and the MyFaces team have great
experience with open source development and ASF and already sharing
with the ADF Faces team.

Homogenous developers:

We understand full well that development discussions need to take
place on the public developers list not behind closed doors. Oracle
will strongly encourage developers across the globe to join the ADF
Faces community.

Reliance on salaried developers:

Although ADF Faces was built by Oracle developers, initial interest
from the MyFaces community seems strong. We anticipate several MyFaces
community members to join the ADF Faces effort which will dilute this
project's reliance on Oracle developers overtime. Meanwhile, Oracle
will continue to support the project by dedicating full time
resources, to ensure a smooth transition into Apache.

No ties to other Apache products:

ADF Faces runs on MyFaces.

A fascination with the Apache brand:

ADF Faces developers believe that by joining the A