Re: [extval] rc 1 and logo

2008-11-16 Thread Enrico Berti
Hi Adonis,thanks for your precious advice!
I had a little bit more time to search for alternative fonts and I would
like to share with you guys the other 5 proposals where I maintained the
same concept of the original one but I used different font faces.
Let me know what you think!
cheers
enrico

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Adonis Raduca
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 Nice idea, if we consider the scope of the project.
 I think that the dark red X adds some complexity also some negative meaning
 to the idea of validator, because has direct associations with errors.
 We can think in both way after all:
 - we use validator to identify errors.
 - or we use validator to avoid errors.
 I think the second one is better because it concentrate on the positive
 aspect ... to avoid errors.
 On the other side green is in vogue now because has environment friendly
 connotations ... for that reason I use the green and brown colors to all
 MyFaces logos.
 We can go on that direction (the logo with the v stilled in a shape of a
 green check sign) and to refine the logo.
 I think is better to invest effort in refining what we have.

 Regarding what we have now:
 In my opinion is there is a little problem with the character kerning: the
 final l is a little to far from and the a is a little to close from the
 green check sign. We also can work a little on the font, probably will be a
 good idea to choose a highly new font (a font that is not older than several
 years, also to not be a remake of a classical one). Another idea will be to
 take a classic or a modern font and to modify a little in order to add a
 personal signature, and why not to design from scratch all those characters,
 we have only 5 after all.

 Also the green check symbol needs some refining.

 Unfortunately now I'm to busy to work on this logo ... but I hope that my
 suggestions helps ...

 Have a nice day !
 Adonis


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Cagatay Civici [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:

 That logo is awesome.


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]wrote:

 hi berti,

 I like that logo

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Enrico Berti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  hi all,
  this is my personal interpretation of a possible logo for extval.
  It's something fresh, simple, with some recaps to both validation and
 form
  fields.
  waiting for comments, of course!
  cheers,
  enrico
 
  On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Gerhard Petracek
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hello everyone,
 
  after some refactorings + adding some new features, we are basically
 ready
  for a first release.
  the latest snapshot is available at [1]
 
  however, there are some open topics.
  e.g. leonardo started with the site for extval. thank you leonardo!
 i'll
  join and add some information.
 
  furthermore, we need a logo for the project.
  are there any ideas or suggestions for a nice logo?
 
  regards,
  gerhard
 
  [1] 
  http://people.apache.org/~gpetracek/myfaces/extval/http://people.apache.org/%7Egpetracek/myfaces/extval/
 
  --
 
  http://www.irian.at
 
  Your JSF powerhouse -
  JSF Consulting, Development and
  Courses in English and German
 
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attachment: extval_logo_proposal_2.jpg

Re: [extval] rc 1 and logo

2008-11-16 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello enrico,

great logo - it's really stylish.
i like #2 and #3. maybe with a minor change of #2 (just a little change of
the 't').

regards,
gerhard



2008/11/16 Enrico Berti [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi Adonis,thanks for your precious advice!
 I had a little bit more time to search for alternative fonts and I would
 like to share with you guys the other 5 proposals where I maintained the
 same concept of the original one but I used different font faces.
 Let me know what you think!
 cheers
 enrico


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Adonis Raduca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:

 Hi,

 Nice idea, if we consider the scope of the project.
 I think that the dark red X adds some complexity also some negative
 meaning to the idea of validator, because has direct associations with
 errors.
 We can think in both way after all:
 - we use validator to identify errors.
 - or we use validator to avoid errors.
 I think the second one is better because it concentrate on the positive
 aspect ... to avoid errors.
 On the other side green is in vogue now because has environment friendly
 connotations ... for that reason I use the green and brown colors to all
 MyFaces logos.
 We can go on that direction (the logo with the v stilled in a shape of a
 green check sign) and to refine the logo.
 I think is better to invest effort in refining what we have.

 Regarding what we have now:
 In my opinion is there is a little problem with the character kerning: the
 final l is a little to far from and the a is a little to close from the
 green check sign. We also can work a little on the font, probably will be a
 good idea to choose a highly new font (a font that is not older than several
 years, also to not be a remake of a classical one). Another idea will be to
 take a classic or a modern font and to modify a little in order to add a
 personal signature, and why not to design from scratch all those characters,
 we have only 5 after all.

 Also the green check symbol needs some refining.

 Unfortunately now I'm to busy to work on this logo ... but I hope that my
 suggestions helps ...

 Have a nice day !
 Adonis


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Cagatay Civici 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That logo is awesome.


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]wrote:

 hi berti,

 I like that logo

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Enrico Berti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  hi all,
  this is my personal interpretation of a possible logo for extval.
  It's something fresh, simple, with some recaps to both validation and
 form
  fields.
  waiting for comments, of course!
  cheers,
  enrico
 
  On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Gerhard Petracek
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hello everyone,
 
  after some refactorings + adding some new features, we are basically
 ready
  for a first release.
  the latest snapshot is available at [1]
 
  however, there are some open topics.
  e.g. leonardo started with the site for extval. thank you leonardo!
 i'll
  join and add some information.
 
  furthermore, we need a logo for the project.
  are there any ideas or suggestions for a nice logo?
 
  regards,
  gerhard
 
  [1] 
  http://people.apache.org/~gpetracek/myfaces/extval/http://people.apache.org/%7Egpetracek/myfaces/extval/
 
  --
 
  http://www.irian.at
 
  Your JSF powerhouse -
  JSF Consulting, Development and
  Courses in English and German
 
  Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
 
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf







-- 

http://www.irian.at

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JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German

Professional Support for Apache MyFaces


Re: [extval] rc 1 and logo

2008-11-14 Thread Enrico Berti
hi all,this is my personal interpretation of a possible logo for extval.
It's something fresh, simple, with some recaps to both validation and form
fields.
waiting for comments, of course!

cheers,
enrico

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Gerhard Petracek 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello everyone,

 after some refactorings + adding some new features, we are basically ready
 for a first release.
 the latest snapshot is available at [1]

 however, there are some open topics.
 e.g. leonardo started with the site for extval. thank you leonardo! i'll
 join and add some information.

 furthermore, we need a logo for the project.
 are there any ideas or suggestions for a nice logo?

 regards,
 gerhard

 [1] 
 http://people.apache.org/~gpetracek/myfaces/extval/http://people.apache.org/%7Egpetracek/myfaces/extval/

 --

 http://www.irian.at

 Your JSF powerhouse -
 JSF Consulting, Development and
 Courses in English and German

 Professional Support for Apache MyFaces

attachment: extval_logo_proposal.jpg

Re: [extval] rc 1 and logo

2008-11-14 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
hi berti,

I like that logo

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Enrico Berti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi all,
 this is my personal interpretation of a possible logo for extval.
 It's something fresh, simple, with some recaps to both validation and form
 fields.
 waiting for comments, of course!
 cheers,
 enrico

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Gerhard Petracek
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello everyone,

 after some refactorings + adding some new features, we are basically ready
 for a first release.
 the latest snapshot is available at [1]

 however, there are some open topics.
 e.g. leonardo started with the site for extval. thank you leonardo! i'll
 join and add some information.

 furthermore, we need a logo for the project.
 are there any ideas or suggestions for a nice logo?

 regards,
 gerhard

 [1] http://people.apache.org/~gpetracek/myfaces/extval/

 --

 http://www.irian.at

 Your JSF powerhouse -
 JSF Consulting, Development and
 Courses in English and German

 Professional Support for Apache MyFaces





-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf


Re: [extval] rc 1 and logo

2008-11-14 Thread Cagatay Civici
That logo is awesome.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 hi berti,

 I like that logo

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Enrico Berti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  hi all,
  this is my personal interpretation of a possible logo for extval.
  It's something fresh, simple, with some recaps to both validation and
 form
  fields.
  waiting for comments, of course!
  cheers,
  enrico
 
  On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Gerhard Petracek
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hello everyone,
 
  after some refactorings + adding some new features, we are basically
 ready
  for a first release.
  the latest snapshot is available at [1]
 
  however, there are some open topics.
  e.g. leonardo started with the site for extval. thank you leonardo! i'll
  join and add some information.
 
  furthermore, we need a logo for the project.
  are there any ideas or suggestions for a nice logo?
 
  regards,
  gerhard
 
  [1] 
  http://people.apache.org/~gpetracek/myfaces/extval/http://people.apache.org/%7Egpetracek/myfaces/extval/
 
  --
 
  http://www.irian.at
 
  Your JSF powerhouse -
  JSF Consulting, Development and
  Courses in English and German
 
  Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
 
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf



Re: [extval] rc 1 and logo

2008-11-14 Thread Gilles Demarty
Yep great logo.

Just an idea : change the x to dark red to make it look like the cross
(as the opposite of the check).

Well, probably It adds too much noise, but is it not worth trying ?



On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Enrico Berti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi all,
 this is my personal interpretation of a possible logo for extval.
 It's something fresh, simple, with some recaps to both validation and form
 fields.
 waiting for comments, of course!
 cheers,
 enrico

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Gerhard Petracek
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello everyone,

 after some refactorings + adding some new features, we are basically ready
 for a first release.
 the latest snapshot is available at [1]

 however, there are some open topics.
 e.g. leonardo started with the site for extval. thank you leonardo! i'll
 join and add some information.

 furthermore, we need a logo for the project.
 are there any ideas or suggestions for a nice logo?

 regards,
 gerhard

 [1] http://people.apache.org/~gpetracek/myfaces/extval/

 --

 http://www.irian.at

 Your JSF powerhouse -
 JSF Consulting, Development and
 Courses in English and German

 Professional Support for Apache MyFaces




Re: [extval] rc 1 and logo

2008-11-14 Thread Adonis Raduca
Hi,

Nice idea, if we consider the scope of the project.
I think that the dark red X adds some complexity also some negative meaning
to the idea of validator, because has direct associations with errors.
We can think in both way after all:
- we use validator to identify errors.
- or we use validator to avoid errors.
I think the second one is better because it concentrate on the positive
aspect ... to avoid errors.
On the other side green is in vogue now because has environment friendly
connotations ... for that reason I use the green and brown colors to all
MyFaces logos.
We can go on that direction (the logo with the v stilled in a shape of a
green check sign) and to refine the logo.
I think is better to invest effort in refining what we have.

Regarding what we have now:
In my opinion is there is a little problem with the character kerning: the
final l is a little to far from and the a is a little to close from the
green check sign. We also can work a little on the font, probably will be a
good idea to choose a highly new font (a font that is not older than several
years, also to not be a remake of a classical one). Another idea will be to
take a classic or a modern font and to modify a little in order to add a
personal signature, and why not to design from scratch all those characters,
we have only 5 after all.

Also the green check symbol needs some refining.

Unfortunately now I'm to busy to work on this logo ... but I hope that my
suggestions helps ...

Have a nice day !
Adonis


On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Cagatay Civici
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 That logo is awesome.


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 hi berti,

 I like that logo

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Enrico Berti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  hi all,
  this is my personal interpretation of a possible logo for extval.
  It's something fresh, simple, with some recaps to both validation and
 form
  fields.
  waiting for comments, of course!
  cheers,
  enrico
 
  On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Gerhard Petracek
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hello everyone,
 
  after some refactorings + adding some new features, we are basically
 ready
  for a first release.
  the latest snapshot is available at [1]
 
  however, there are some open topics.
  e.g. leonardo started with the site for extval. thank you leonardo!
 i'll
  join and add some information.
 
  furthermore, we need a logo for the project.
  are there any ideas or suggestions for a nice logo?
 
  regards,
  gerhard
 
  [1] 
  http://people.apache.org/~gpetracek/myfaces/extval/http://people.apache.org/%7Egpetracek/myfaces/extval/
 
  --
 
  http://www.irian.at
 
  Your JSF powerhouse -
  JSF Consulting, Development and
  Courses in English and German
 
  Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
 
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf