Re: [native-lang] Re: [Fwd: Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 years]
To reiterate the point: A. For Albanian localization, please work with and within the l10n project: http://l10n.openoffice.org and d...@l10n.openoffice.org. NLC is no really suited for localization efforts. Please work there to coordinate your efforts. B. it's possible (likely?) that you are the only one working on this. Is that the case? Do you know? What have you done to determine that? C. Let's say that others join you in this effort to localize OOo to Albanian and that this is sustainable... in that case, forming an NLC project makes sense. So: 1. If the supposed lead of the Albanian project has not responded to you or to us (and I'm cc'ing him here) within a reasonable period of time--say within this week--and if there is a living community (uhm, say active--why discriminate against the zombies? that's a joke.)--then work with them by using the project list to move the localization ahead. 2. It may be that you need the permissions to update the webpages, etc. If no one is there to grant you those within the project, I can do that for you. Effectively, you would become the project lead, though webmaster is not the same as lead. Still, to make it easier for all, you should co-ordinate with the existing community, if any, on this issue, so that who is in control of the pages and lists is known and accepted by all. I hope this gets you started. Basically, it comes down to this: Don't wait on ceremony (but don't be rude, of course) and do get going on the localization if you have the resources or energies to get others to work on it. Best, Louis On 2010-03-01, at 23:34 , Linux Master wrote: > > Please, can anyone look into my issue? > > > >> Hello dev list, >> >> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian team (sq), but >> there has not been any response for far. >> >> I have not received any response from the team leader Shkumbin Saneja at >> all. Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO 1.1.4 I believe >> this team is not active anymore. >> >> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader needs to approve >> things, it means that the whole team is inactive because of him. >> >>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was almost 5 years ago. >> >> Please help. I want to take over this project and get some active people >> involved. Many have gone to launchpad and are translating OpenOffice for >> Ubuntu in Albanian. For me, that's not the right level to translate since >> only Ubuntu and sub distros of Ubuntu will benefit. >> But, can only guess that many of them tried to register here, but because no >> one admitted they have found another place to have fun. >> >> >> Thanks, >> //Agroni >> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: >> Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 years >> From: >> Louis Suarez-Potts >> Date: >> Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:34:55 -0500 >> To: >> linuxmas...@verizon.net >> >> To: >> linuxmas...@verizon.net >> CC: >> southerncr...@openoffice.org >> >> >> Hello, Agroni, >> >> On 2010-02-13, at 21:20 , linuxmas...@verizon.net wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Charles and Louis, >>> >>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian team (sq), but >>> there has not been any response for far. >>> >>> I have not received any response from the team leader Shkumbin Saneja at >>> all. >>> >>> Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO 1.1.4 I believe this >>> team is not active anymore. >>> >>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader needs to approve >>> things, it means that the whole team is inactive because of him. >>> >>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was almost 5 years ago. >>> >>> Please help. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> //Agroni >>> >>> >> >> I think the best tactic here is to inform the broader lists via >> d...@native-lang and also d...@l10n about this situation. It's normal in >> Foss projects, which are often volunteer-run, for the responsible to >> disappear as they become engaged in other (often remunerative) activities. >> It's life. But equally, we can always and always are soliciting new interest. >> >> Given the nature of Albanian and its polity, I'd also wonder if it would >> help to engage government support? >> Foss saves money. Gives freedom. Builds local economies. Is good. :-) >> >> Ciao >> Louis >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Feb 6, 2010 09:19:44 PM, iss...@www.openoffice.org wrote: >>> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: >>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103426 >>> >>> >>> User agroni changed the following: >>> >>> What |Old value |New value >>> >>> Component|native-lang |l10n >>> >>> QA contact|iss...@native-lang |iss...@l10n >>>
Re: [native-lang] Re: [Fwd: Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 years]
Agroni, Both Charles and I have replied to you. Have you not received our replies? Louis On 2010-03-01, at 23:34 , Linux Master wrote: > > Please, can anyone look into my issue? > > > >> Hello dev list, >> >> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian team (sq), but >> there has not been any response for far. >> >> I have not received any response from the team leader Shkumbin Saneja at >> all. Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO 1.1.4 I believe >> this team is not active anymore. >> >> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader needs to approve >> things, it means that the whole team is inactive because of him. >> >>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was almost 5 years ago. >> >> Please help. I want to take over this project and get some active people >> involved. Many have gone to launchpad and are translating OpenOffice for >> Ubuntu in Albanian. For me, that's not the right level to translate since >> only Ubuntu and sub distros of Ubuntu will benefit. >> But, can only guess that many of them tried to register here, but because no >> one admitted they have found another place to have fun. >> >> >> Thanks, >> //Agroni >> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: >> Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 years >> From: >> Louis Suarez-Potts >> Date: >> Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:34:55 -0500 >> To: >> linuxmas...@verizon.net >> >> To: >> linuxmas...@verizon.net >> CC: >> southerncr...@openoffice.org >> >> >> Hello, Agroni, >> >> On 2010-02-13, at 21:20 , linuxmas...@verizon.net wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Charles and Louis, >>> >>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian team (sq), but >>> there has not been any response for far. >>> >>> I have not received any response from the team leader Shkumbin Saneja at >>> all. >>> >>> Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO 1.1.4 I believe this >>> team is not active anymore. >>> >>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader needs to approve >>> things, it means that the whole team is inactive because of him. >>> >>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was almost 5 years ago. >>> >>> Please help. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> //Agroni >>> >>> >> >> I think the best tactic here is to inform the broader lists via >> d...@native-lang and also d...@l10n about this situation. It's normal in >> Foss projects, which are often volunteer-run, for the responsible to >> disappear as they become engaged in other (often remunerative) activities. >> It's life. But equally, we can always and always are soliciting new interest. >> >> Given the nature of Albanian and its polity, I'd also wonder if it would >> help to engage government support? >> Foss saves money. Gives freedom. Builds local economies. Is good. :-) >> >> Ciao >> Louis >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Feb 6, 2010 09:19:44 PM, iss...@www.openoffice.org wrote: >>> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: >>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103426 >>> >>> >>> User agroni changed the following: >>> >>> What |Old value |New value >>> >>> Component|native-lang |l10n >>> >>> QA contact|iss...@native-lang |iss...@l10n >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- Additional comments from agr...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 7 02:19:42 >>> + 2010 --- >>> Still no response from no one. >>> >>> Looks like the whole albanian team has abandoned this project. >>> >>> Please, assign me as a new albanian team leader. >>> >>> Come on, please, it's been 6 months since the last post here. >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from >>> Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. >>> http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification >>> >> >> >> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
[native-lang] Re: [Fwd: Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 years]
Please, can anyone look into my issue? Hello dev list, Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian team (sq), but there has not been any response for far. I have not received any response from the team leader Shkumbin Saneja at all. Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO 1.1.4 I believe this team is not active anymore. Please look into this matter. If the current team leader needs to approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive because of him. From what I can see, the last thing this team did was almost 5 years ago. Please help. I want to take over this project and get some active people involved. Many have gone to launchpad and are translating OpenOffice for Ubuntu in Albanian. For me, that's not the right level to translate since only Ubuntu and sub distros of Ubuntu will benefit. But, can only guess that many of them tried to register here, but because no one admitted they have found another place to have fun. Thanks, //Agroni Subject: Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 years From: Louis Suarez-Potts Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:34:55 -0500 To: linuxmas...@verizon.net To: linuxmas...@verizon.net CC: southerncr...@openoffice.org Hello, Agroni, On 2010-02-13, at 21:20 , linuxmas...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Charles and Louis, Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian team (sq), but there has not been any response for far. I have not received any response from the team leader Shkumbin Saneja at all. Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO 1.1.4 I believe this team is not active anymore. Please look into this matter. If the current team leader needs to approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive because of him. From what I can see, the last thing this team did was almost 5 years ago. Please help. Thanks, //Agroni I think the best tactic here is to inform the broader lists via d...@native-lang and also d...@l10n about this situation. It's normal in Foss projects, which are often volunteer-run, for the responsible to disappear as they become engaged in other (often remunerative) activities. It's life. But equally, we can always and always are soliciting new interest. Given the nature of Albanian and its polity, I'd also wonder if it would help to engage government support? Foss saves money. Gives freedom. Builds local economies. Is good. :-) Ciao Louis Feb 6, 2010 09:19:44 PM, iss...@www.openoffice.org wrote: To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103426 User agroni changed the following: What |Old value |New value Component|native-lang |l10n QA contact|iss...@native-lang |iss...@l10n --- Additional comments from agr...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 7 02:19:42 + 2010 --- Still no response from no one. Looks like the whole albanian team has abandoned this project. Please, assign me as a new albanian team leader. Come on, please, it's been 6 months since the last post here. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification
